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Title: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: hotel21 on 02 January 2009, 21:14:02
As the title...  Tried my Virgin sim, her O2, family spare/emergency Orange and daughters Vodaphone.  Only one that seemed to work, for some reason, was the Voda one.

Any others that will/will not work in this setup?

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Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: Danny on 02 January 2009, 21:15:59
Not sure why o2 didnt work if Voda did..!
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: TheBoy on 02 January 2009, 22:15:27
900mhz only i think, so o2/voda
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: feeutfo on 03 January 2009, 00:52:56
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900mhz only i think, so o2/voda
yep, 02 works im mine. bit of a pig to activate from new if the skalley  does not register it correctly at the till.  :( :(
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: Dave DND on 03 January 2009, 08:51:54
As far as I was aware, its only the O2 and Vodaphone on 900mHz

The system was designed back in the day before the other bands of T-Mobile, Orange etc were around , so they certainly will not work.

Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: Jim on 03 January 2009, 11:21:19
My Vodafone sims work's OK in my NCDC 2015
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: hotel21 on 03 January 2009, 11:50:22
Cheers all.  Turns out the O2 sim I was using was her old one and was dead.  Will get a current one and try that.

Also, I'm looking for a roof ariel for the same/similar setup for my sons car.  NCDC2013 and colour satnav.  The base is on the roof but the ariel is missing.  You got one Dave or anyone else?
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 January 2009, 12:41:24
It's worth bearing in mind that both O2 and Vodafone have frequencies allocated to them in the 1800 band as well, so having a mobile that only supports the 900 band might result in patchy coverage depending on how they are deploying 1800MHz. (Likely in the more densely populated areas).

They are the only 2 GSM operators who have anything at 900MHz though.

Kevin
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: Dave DND on 03 January 2009, 17:29:42
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Cheers all.  Turns out the O2 sim I was using was her old one and was dead.  Will get a current one and try that.

Also, I'm looking for a roof ariel for the same/similar setup for my sons car.  NCDC2013 and colour satnav.  The base is on the roof but the ariel is missing.  You got one Dave or anyone else?

What sort of aerial are you after then?  What do you want it to do? what car?
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: Dave DND on 03 January 2009, 17:32:01
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It's worth bearing in mind that both O2 and Vodafone have frequencies allocated to them in the 1800 band as well, so having a mobile that only supports the 900 band might result in patchy coverage depending on how they are deploying 1800MHz. (Likely in the more densely populated areas).

They are the only 2 GSM operators who have anything at 900MHz though.

Kevin

Does that mean that a 900 mhz O2 also works on 1800 mhz ? are the phones on seperate frequencies, or do they now work on both combined? Is it that a more modern O2 is now 1800 mhz and won`t work on the 900mhz equipment ? -  Not quite understanding this fully??

 :-?
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 January 2009, 18:42:36
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It's worth bearing in mind that both O2 and Vodafone have frequencies allocated to them in the 1800 band as well, so having a mobile that only supports the 900 band might result in patchy coverage depending on how they are deploying 1800MHz. (Likely in the more densely populated areas).

They are the only 2 GSM operators who have anything at 900MHz though.

Kevin

Does that mean that a 900 mhz O2 also works on 1800 mhz ? are the phones on seperate frequencies, or do they now work on both combined? Is it that a more modern O2 is now 1800 mhz and won`t work on the 900mhz equipment ? -  Not quite understanding this fully??

 :-?

Most modern phones will work on 3 or 4 bands at least. 900 and 1800 in europe, 850 and 1900 in the US and a few other parts of the world.

The phone will search all bands for a home network (the issuer of the SIM card) and then search for a roaming operator (if overseas, for example) unless it's been configured not to, so you don't normally notice it moving.

Vodafone and O2 have an allocation at 1800, but it depends how they use it. Typically, they would use the extra capacity and smaller cell footprint at 1800 to infill urban areas where the volume of calls is high, so they might send an 1800 capable phone from 900 up to 1800 to make use of this capacity. Whether an 1800 only phone would work (if you can find one these days) depends if they have complete cells on 1800 MHZ or just traffic channels. If it did, coverage would be woeful out of town because they'll almost certainly be using their existing 900 MHz infrastructure for "rural" coverage.

Kevin
Title: Re: NCDC 2015 - what phone network works?
Post by: hotel21 on 03 January 2009, 20:34:26
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Cheers all.  Turns out the O2 sim I was using was her old one and was dead.  Will get a current one and try that.

Also, I'm looking for a roof ariel for the same/similar setup for my sons car.  NCDC2013 and colour satnav.  The base is on the roof but the ariel is missing.  You got one Dave or anyone else?

What sort of aerial are you after then?  What do you want it to do? what car?
Looking for a standard Omega Elite Estate one, or its equivelant.  The base appears complete, just the ariel to add and we are hopefully off and running.  Its for my sons car, not mine, by the way...   ;)