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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Christian on 08 January 2009, 12:14:33

Title: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 08 January 2009, 12:14:33
The car i have was without the subwoofers on the shelf but what i wanted to know was this......

N/s/f speaker on low volume has a scraping kind of sound, it sounds like the Voice Coil is scraping on the Former of the speaker, what i want to know is when replacing it will it be a standered speaker or are they uprated with the 700 unit with built in phone and stuff?


Also not 100 percent sure if its got the Bose Amp as i red its bolted underneth the shelf on a saloon?

If so the conections are there im sure ive seen them?
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: markey mark on 08 January 2009, 12:51:30
just a standard speaker bud  :y
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: benbrunt on 08 January 2009, 13:09:07
My CCRT700 unit is a BOSE one, its printed on the cassette flap, for the want of a better word!

Without the rear shelf speakers I don't think it'll be a BOSE system :y
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 08 January 2009, 13:13:50
If theres no Pre amp then is it worth shanging the head unit aswell as may add an Amp and uprate all speakers?
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: bighed on 08 January 2009, 14:03:29
Are you not keeping the phone then mate?
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 08 January 2009, 14:08:21
I thought the Mv6 had Bose stuff, but mine has not!

Unsure of the Power output tbh , if its good ile keep it!
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: markey mark on 08 January 2009, 14:18:42
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I thought the Mv6 had Bose stuff, but mine has not!

Unsure of the Power output tbh , if its good ile keep it!

only the elite had the bose i have upgraded mine to bose very easy  :y
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 08 January 2009, 16:01:54
Cool may look into that  ;)
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Danny on 08 January 2009, 16:14:42
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My CCRT700 unit is a BOSE one, its printed on the cassette flap, for the want of a better word!

Without the rear shelf speakers I don't think it'll be a BOSE system :y

heheh... you said flap ;D
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: tmx on 08 January 2009, 17:06:09
All mv6s as standard had the CCR 600 an upgrade to the CCRT 700 with the telephone facility was availible but no BOSE only elite's had that

thats what my 1998 MV6 sales brochure makes out anyway!
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: benbrunt on 08 January 2009, 17:08:56
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My CCRT700 unit is a BOSE one, its printed on the cassette flap, for the want of a better word!

Without the rear shelf speakers I don't think it'll be a BOSE system :y

heheh... you said flap ;D
Suppose the alternative 'slit' wouldn't have been any better  :-X
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2009, 19:56:57
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All mv6s as standard had the CCR 600 an upgrade to the CCRT 700 with the telephone facility was availible but no BOSE only elite's had that

thats what my 1998 MV6 sales brochure makes out anyway!
Not quite - pre 1998 MV6 didn't exist (will be plod), 1998 had ccr600, 1999 had ccrt700 (no bose), and 2000 onwards had cdr2005.
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2009, 19:57:48
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My CCRT700 unit is a BOSE one, its printed on the cassette flap, for the want of a better word!

Without the rear shelf speakers I don't think it'll be a BOSE system :y
The BOSE wording on flap is not definative, as these units are quite old, many may have been reprogrammed to bose or non bose (its a simple software config change)
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Andy B on 08 January 2009, 21:23:31
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bose or non bose (its a simple software config change)

Only if you know!  ;) I wonder how many Vauxhall owners know that?  :-/ :y :y :y
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 08 January 2009, 21:53:05
Please.............do tell  :)
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2009, 21:54:49
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Please.............do tell  :)
Need proper diagnostic equipment to be able to put a new software config on it, end user can't do it.
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 08 January 2009, 21:57:02
And what does this Software do to the Configuration?

What is the diffrence in overall sound quality  :)
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: TheBoy on 08 January 2009, 22:19:35
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And what does this Software do to the Configuration?

What is the diffrence in overall sound quality  :)
the software config just flicks it between bose and non bose.  If you don't have bose amp and speakers, you can't run ccrt in bose config.
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 08 January 2009, 23:00:33
Ahh i got you, i think im gunna upgrade then if i have the 700 unit and look for Amp and shelf Woofers, i take it its as easy as plug and play with config?
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: TheBoy on 09 January 2009, 09:32:07
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Ahh i got you, i think im gunna upgrade then if i have the 700 unit and look for Amp and shelf Woofers, i take it its as easy as plug and play with config?
Fairly easy to fit - you do need loom that runs along side of car though.  Additionally, you need to replace the door speakers with Bose ones.

You will need a parcel shelf from a Bose'd car (or cur yours yourself), and if its a 1999 or later car, you will need to drill the holes for the shelf speakers yourself.
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 09 January 2009, 09:52:05
The holes are there, but theres a plate attached over then from factory, looks to be spot welded but im sure its easy enough to do!

The loom you say is this from the head unit to the Amp?
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: benbrunt on 09 January 2009, 09:54:46
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Ahh i got you, i think im gunna upgrade then if i have the 700 unit and look for Amp and shelf Woofers, i take it its as easy as plug and play with config?


Can't speak for the non-Bose unit, but am more than happy with my current setup when playing cds. It's more than loud enough with no distortion whatsoever, not like the chavmobile drum n bass sounds you hear from some cars.
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: TheBoy on 09 January 2009, 09:59:25
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The holes are there, but theres a plate attached over then from factory, looks to be spot welded but im sure its easy enough to do!
The loom you say is this from the head unit to the Amp?
Not on 1999 and later cars - you have to get the drill out ;)
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 09 January 2009, 10:07:16
Am more than comatant enough to do that im sure!

The loom then, where does this go and what does it connect too, is it unit to Amplifier ?

Is the Amplifier just for the woofers?

Does the Bose front speakers just run from the Head unit or is this in connection to the Amp aswell?
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: TheBoy on 09 January 2009, 10:23:31
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Am more than comatant enough to do that im sure!

The loom then, where does this go and what does it connect too, is it unit to Amplifier ?

Is the Amplifier just for the woofers?

Does the Bose front speakers just run from the Head unit or is this in connection to the Amp aswell?
loom from kick panel to amp/cd changer (cd changer loom is integrated, so you swap your cd changer loom for bose loom).

All speakers fed from amp, HU provides non standard Bose level signal to amp (via bose loom), and amped audio send back down bose loom to drivers kick panel, where it then goes off to doo speakers.
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 09 January 2009, 10:25:41
Ok so its a matter of just plugging in, then i take it configuration?
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: TheBoy on 09 January 2009, 10:38:49
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Ok so its a matter of just plugging in, then i take it configuration?
yup
Title: Re: My mv6 with the 700 unit
Post by: Christian on 09 January 2009, 20:48:02
Shweet , thanks guys!  ;)