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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: big-o-bob on 07 May 2009, 07:56:40

Title: Bose?
Post by: big-o-bob on 07 May 2009, 07:56:40
Hi all

I'm thinkin of upgrading the sound system to bose...just a few questions before I do.  Thanks

Is there a huge difference in sound quality?

Would I see any benefit from just changing the speakers?

Is the bose head unit a superier quality, or just the speakers and amp?

And finaly, is it an easy job?

Cheers Rob :y
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: m1ct on 07 May 2009, 08:13:07
Hi Rob,
well, you`ll have to strip down door panels and install the amp under rear shelf which is a pain if you use your boot a lot- you`d lose around 3inches from the top (i couldn`t get two 18 alloys in because of the casing) but on the other hand, if using base on high setting, you can feel the vibe  ::)
Also, when changing solenoids in my prefacelift, i noticed that the speakers were not Bose at all, and the other elite we broke had infinity units in  :-/
I`m sure one of the [size=9]geeks[/size] guys on here will give you a technical pros and cons answer  :)
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: big-o-bob on 07 May 2009, 08:17:35
Thanks mate.  I know bose are supposed to be decent stuff, but just don't want a lot of work for minimal difference... ;)
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: mathewst on 07 May 2009, 08:20:26
Forget the Bose.
It's a complicated job to do.
Sound quality is better  (bass only).
Components for Bose are simply too old.
Spend the money on higher quality new speakers, amplifier and aftermarket head unit and it will sound much better than Bose, and probably last much longer than old components of the Bose system.
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: big-o-bob on 07 May 2009, 08:30:30
Thanks mate.

Is there something built in to the existing wiring that prevents aftermarket head units being used with existing speakers?.

On my last omega, I wired in an aftermarket (JVC) head unit and used the existing wires for the speakers - however, there was no sound from the speakers.

I had the same unit in my vectra, previous to that and had no problems using existing speaker wires.

Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: mathewst on 07 May 2009, 08:43:15
There shouldn't be any problem I think.
At least none that I can think of right now.
How the problem was solved the last time this happened?
Actually do you know what caused the problem?
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: big-o-bob on 07 May 2009, 19:22:24
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How the problem was solved the last time this happened?
Actually do you know what caused the problem?

Last time I just put the origional stereo back in.  I could'nt understand why there was no sound.   I have never used the JVC stereo since, so maybe there was a problem with that.then. ;)
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: amigov6 on 07 May 2009, 19:54:49
I personally rate the Bose for a Mig. You retain your display & dash & they can take full volume without distorting so the head unit, amp & speakers are set up to work together. If you want big bang bass then go to motorworld etc, but i reckon Bose have enough volume & a certain quality sound. You have to change everything but Markey Mark fitted a complete system into the Beastie from a CDX or Elite?? & i'm more than happy with it. :y
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 08 May 2009, 00:19:14
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Hi Rob,
well, you`ll have to strip down door panels and install the amp under rear shelf which is a pain if you use your boot a lot- you`d lose around 3inches from the top (i couldn`t get two 18 alloys in because of the casing) but on the other hand, if using base on high setting, you can feel the vibe  ::)
Also, when changing solenoids in my prefacelift, i noticed that the speakers were not Bose at all, and the other elite we broke had infinity units in  :-/
I`m sure one of the [size=9]geeks[/size] guys on here will give you a technical pros and cons answer  :)

I fitted my BOSE and left out the shelf that carries the amp, to save the 4" then fitted the amp behind my sat nav reader :y
I must say I think the BOSE system sounds well especially in the saloon :y
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: big-o-bob on 08 May 2009, 00:22:37
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. If you want big bang bass then go to motorworld etc, but i reckon Bose have enough volume & a certain quality sound.. :y

I'm not after a massive bass, I would just like nice crisp, crystal clear sound quality.

I think the standard head unit in the cdx is crap quality.  Dont know if it's speakers or the head unit, or both.  It is about the same crap quality as my last pre facelift omega's stereo was.

Is the bose noticable better?  Thanks for the replies so far :y
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: mathewst on 08 May 2009, 13:14:40
What is the standard head unitin yours?
I have a ccr2006 in mine without Bose.
And this same unit comes with the Bose setup
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: mathewst on 08 May 2009, 13:17:38
Also one other thing.
For 20 pounds you have steering wheel adaptors for the controls on the wheel.
The only thing you loose is one line on the display which reads the cd track number and number of cd.
Don't get me wrong...
Bose was goodBUT it was good when it was brand new.
Now its just overrun by time and techology
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: big-o-bob on 08 May 2009, 13:23:33
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What is the standard head unitin yours?
I have a ccr2006 in mine without Bose.
And this same unit comes with the Bose setup

I can't check at thr moment, but my head unit has a 4 disc changer built in and I have controls on the steering wheel.

So you say this is no different to the bose head unit other than the bose logo?
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: mathewst on 08 May 2009, 13:34:27
It's the same unit used in Bose setup.
That's a CCR2006.
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: mathewst on 08 May 2009, 13:35:45
The only difference is that's the unit in Bose is "Bose enabled"
Just some tinckering with tech2 on the unit
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 May 2009, 16:25:44
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Hi Rob,
well, you`ll have to strip down door panels and install the amp under rear shelf which is a pain if you use your boot a lot- you`d lose around 3inches from the top (i couldn`t get two 18 alloys in because of the casing) but on the other hand, if using base on high setting, you can feel the vibe  ::)
Also, when changing solenoids in my prefacelift, i noticed that the speakers were not Bose at all, and the other elite we broke had infinity units in  :-/
I`m sure one of the [size=9]geeks[/size] guys on here will give you a technical pros and cons answer  :)

Good speakers - which models were they?

Do you have the rears still?
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: TheBoy on 08 May 2009, 16:40:33
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The only difference is that's the unit in Bose is "Bose enabled"
Just some tinckering with tech2 on the unit
Not necessarily. Not all CCR2006 varients are configurable to Bose.
Title: Re: Bose?
Post by: big-o-bob on 08 May 2009, 23:41:52
CCR2006 is what is in mine.  What difference does the tech2 mean.  I did'nt realise it was that complicated... :y