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Title: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: johndm1957 on 15 June 2009, 20:13:52
1. Brand new number plate light unit fitted.
2. Proper VX lamps fitted.
3. Earth connection under boot shut trim checked cleaned and tightened.

Still getting the irritating warning...strangely, it seems to come up more when the weather is hot.

Might be connected....fuel gauge plummets to empty with low fuel flashing when I fill tank to the brim. Fuel gauge works ok after a gallon or two used.

Suggestions please guys........ :)
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Agemo on 16 June 2009, 09:01:28
It may not be connected. Have you physically checked the lights? It may be that you have a loose filament, changing bulbs could be the cheap answer, but it is a coincidence I admit. ::)
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Dave DND on 16 June 2009, 11:23:37
I have seen similar problems with other car marques that have come into us.

Favourite culprit is el-cheapo bulbs that appear to have a slightly different resistance, but just enough for the bulb sensors to think they have blown.

Personally, I now ignore "own brand" bulbs or any without a big name I have heard of, and tend to stick to Ring or Bosch.
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: johndm1957 on 16 June 2009, 16:36:08
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It may not be connected. Have you physically checked the lights? It may be that you have a loose filament, changing bulbs could be the cheap answer, but it is a coincidence I admit. ::)

Yup...lights checked....bounced and thumped!!
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: johndm1957 on 16 June 2009, 16:41:07
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I have seen similar problems with other car marques that have come into us.

Favourite culprit is el-cheapo bulbs that appear to have a slightly different resistance, but just enough for the bulb sensors to think they have blown.

Personally, I now ignore "own brand" bulbs or any without a big name I have heard of, and tend to stick to Ring or Bosch.
After the warnings started...about 3 months ago, I first stuck in some Halfords bulbs....warnings still there.

After reading on here, went and got proper Vauxhall replacements from my local dealer....warnings remain.

None at all this morning going to work at 7am in the cool, but coming home tonight at 4pm got one every other touch of the brake pedal.. :(
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Dave DND on 16 June 2009, 16:44:49
I wouldn`t use the Halfords ones - and the Vauxhall ones may still be from a bucket of cheapies in the stock room, unless of course they were individually boxed with the Vx logo on the box, but I`ll make the assumption that you asked for bulbs, and you were given a couple of loose bulbs over the counter.

 :-/

The symptoms described are classic of either a bulb changing resistance, or a dodgy joint somewhere

Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: johndm1957 on 16 June 2009, 17:44:38
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I wouldn`t use the Halfords ones - and the Vauxhall ones may still be from a bucket of cheapies in the stock room, unless of course they were individually boxed with the Vx logo on the box, but I`ll make the assumption that you asked for bulbs, and you were given a couple of loose bulbs over the counter.

 :-/

The symptoms described are classic of either a bulb changing resistance, or a dodgy joint somewhere


They were indeed loose and un-boxed....just had a look, and they are Osram......no sign of a VX logo!

So where can I get VX bulbs if my dealer won't supply em?
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Dave DND on 16 June 2009, 17:48:13
Not sure about Osram - used to be a recognised make, but fear they may be cheapie made these days

what do others think?

 :-/
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Dave DND on 16 June 2009, 17:50:08
Do you still have the car accessory shop in the town centre, or just Halfords on the outskirts?
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: johndm1957 on 16 June 2009, 19:14:22
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Do you still have the car accessory shop in the town centre, or just Halfords on the outskirts?
None in the town centre anymore iirc

Might try the other local VX dealer in Flitwick
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Dave DND on 16 June 2009, 19:21:18
Halfords should sell Bosch bulbs in yellow packets - never had problems with them.
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: candyman on 16 June 2009, 20:43:00
osram are oe for a lot of commerical vehicles. ive never had problem with them only that there too expensive. measure the rsistance of the circuit at front incase theres a corroded wire in circuit.
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: p j morgan on 16 June 2009, 22:09:43
are you sure there is not a bad earth some where? Might be worth checking the new number plate light connections
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Andy B on 16 June 2009, 22:20:16
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 Might be worth checking the new number plate light connections

Not part of the check control.  ;) ;) :y
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Dave DND on 16 June 2009, 22:46:28
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osram are oe for a lot of commerical vehicles. ive never had problem with them only that there too expensive. measure the rsistance of the circuit at front incase theres a corroded wire in circuit.

Too expensive is usually a sign of a better bulb these days  ::)
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: candyman on 16 June 2009, 23:01:07
not necessarily. im told there isnt that many actual bulb manufactureers and that there built under license, so a hella man told me. i do agree with the more you pay the better they are. i work on hgv,s so i would use osram on headlights and cheaoest ones on everthing else cause they are either stolen, smashed or the vibration kills them. led's the way forward!
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: Dave DND on 16 June 2009, 23:41:26
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not necessarily. im told there isnt that many actual bulb manufactureers and that there built under license, so a hella man told me. i do agree with the more you pay the better they are. i work on hgv,s so i would use osram on headlights and cheaoest ones on everthing else cause they are either stolen, smashed or the vibration kills them. led's the way forward!

In principle, I like the LED lighting, but until they can standardise the resistance of them to cope with flasher circuits and bulb monitoring, they can create more problems than they solve.

Forgot Hella !! Excellent brand of bulb !!
Title: Re: Brake/tail lamp warning...what else could it be...
Post by: johndm1957 on 29 June 2009, 13:35:21
Yet another pair of bulbs from a different VX dealer.

Parts chappy assured me they came out of a box with VX all over it.

And they are.......Osram again.

And........warnings still coming up.