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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Dr_X on 10 September 2009, 11:07:17
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Sorry in advance if this has been covered but i could not find it in my search.
I have an 03 3.2 Elite with an NCDC 2013 with G.I.D. I bought a colour screen for it off of ebay but it had not been depaired before removal.
I have not been able to sort it out as no one can seem to depair it, I came across this web site http://www.motor-ecu.eu/decoding/opel/decoding the other day and they are able to do this no problem...or so they say.
My question is has anyone here successfully done this to a screen and how difficult is it to pair a screen in delivery state to an existing NCDC with Tech 2 as my local dealer is my last choice to go to...also does anyone do this in this country (UK)..
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A few here have 'depaired' screens the manual way.
there are some tech2's knocking about as well for the other side.
Where abouts are you based?
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DaveDND can do this pm him i think The Boy cann aswell???
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Tech2 cannot depair anything unless you know the original pairing code used.
Any of the people mentioned at http://theboy.omegaowners.com have the ability and knowledge to depair if the code is known, and repair to a code of your choice.
If your radio is already paired with a different code, you need to depair that first using original screen (or a screen in delivery mode).
Marks DTM, Dave DND and I are probably the few people in the country (world?) who can discover the radio pairing code, but as of yet, have neither the time, equipment or funds to discover CID pairing codes.
I think Dave DND can reset a CID to delivery mode, but I have not been able to test his method myself yet.
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Did you have a look at Motor ecu...what do you think???
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Did you have a look at Motor ecu...what do you think???
Do not know the company or their true capabilities, so no comment.
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Did you have a look at Motor ecu...what do you think???
Do not know the company or their true capabilities, so no comment.
Thats what i thought but did'nt want to admit to myself, but for £60 i think it might be worth a go...
Would vaux dealers have a problem pairing a screen in delivery state, my dealer has trouble diagnosing the simplest of problems sometimes...
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Did you have a look at Motor ecu...what do you think???
Do not know the company or their true capabilities, so no comment.
Thats what i thought but did'nt want to admit to myself, but for £60 i think it might be worth a go...
Would vaux dealers have a problem pairing a screen in delivery state, my dealer has trouble diagnosing the simplest of problems sometimes...
My experience of Vauxhall dealers, you find one or 2 dealers that may have a technician capable of properly using the Tech2, the rest are too stupid.
Try contact Dave DND (member here) about the depair of CID. Also, where are you based, as the Tech2 owners here are generally cheaper than the dealers, and know what they are doing!!
Remember, as well as pairing, you'll need the code indexes programming on the replacement screen.
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Did you have a look at Motor ecu...what do you think???
Do not know the company or their true capabilities, so no comment.
Thats what i thought but did'nt want to admit to myself, but for £60 i think it might be worth a go...
Would vaux dealers have a problem pairing a screen in delivery state, my dealer has trouble diagnosing the simplest of problems sometimes...
My experience of Vauxhall dealers, you find one or 2 dealers that may have a technician capable of properly using the Tech2, the rest are too stupid.
Try contact Dave DND (member here) about the depair of CID. Also, where are you based, as the Tech2 owners here are generally cheaper than the dealers, and know what they are doing!!
Remember, as well as pairing, you'll need the code indexes programming on the replacement screen.
I have the code for my NCDC unit if thats what you mean, i'm in Devon
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Dave DND is down Devon way i suggest its best you speak to him?
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I will give him a PM thanks for the help....
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Sorry, at the moment I am unable to depair the CID screens -
Give me a yell late October, and may be in a position to do it then.
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Did you have a look at Motor ecu...what do you think???
Do not know the company or their true capabilities, so no comment.
Thats what i thought but did'nt want to admit to myself, but for £60 i think it might be worth a go...
Would vaux dealers have a problem pairing a screen in delivery state, my dealer has trouble diagnosing the simplest of problems sometimes...
My experience of Vauxhall dealers, you find one or 2 dealers that may have a technician capable of properly using the Tech2, the rest are too stupid.
Try contact Dave DND (member here) about the depair of CID. Also, where are you based, as the Tech2 owners here are generally cheaper than the dealers, and know what they are doing!!
Remember, as well as pairing, you'll need the code indexes programming on the replacement screen.
I have the code for my NCDC unit if thats what you mean, i'm in Devon
No, Code Indexes are the config for devices. If it has the wrong code index, the config will be wrong. This may mean only Trip Computer is wrong, or it may mean other parts are not working correctly.
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Nightmare mod !
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Nightmare mod !
What are you doing, upgrading from mon to CID? Is the CID worth that amount of effort?
I can't make up my mind if I prefer GID or CID :-/
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It's one of those things..my mig is just right and i would'nt change anything on it apart from the colour screen sat nav, the G.I.D. is ok but if i had colour screen it would be perfect imo...just being anal i suppose but i cant help it.
It's a £1000 upgrade if you just drove into a dealership and wanted it installed..
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It's one of those things..my mig is just right and i would'nt change anything on it apart from the colour screen sat nav, the G.I.D. is ok but if i had colour screen it would be perfect imo...just being anal i suppose but i cant help it.
It's a £1000 upgrade if you just drove into a dealership and wanted it installed..
I tend to disable the map option on mine, as its too slow to draw pop up intersections. On the upside, I like the CID because it always displays clock (GID drops clock when pictorial instruction pops up) and it shows total distance to destination on pictorial screen.
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Tech2 cannot depair anything unless you know the original pairing code used.
Any of the people mentioned at http://theboy.omegaowners.com have the ability and knowledge to depair if the code is known, and repair to a code of your choice.
If your radio is already paired with a different code, you need to depair that first using original screen (or a screen in delivery mode).
Marks DTM, Dave DND and I are probably the few people in the country (world?) who can discover the radio pairing code, but as of yet, have neither the time, equipment or funds to discover CID pairing codes.
I think Dave DND can reset a CID to delivery mode, but I have not been able to test his method myself yet.
In Spain there is another person who is able to depair CID (return to Delivery State). The answer is to reset some memory locations inside 93c56.
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Tech2 cannot depair anything unless you know the original pairing code used.
Any of the people mentioned at http://theboy.omegaowners.com have the ability and knowledge to depair if the code is known, and repair to a code of your choice.
If your radio is already paired with a different code, you need to depair that first using original screen (or a screen in delivery mode).
Marks DTM, Dave DND and I are probably the few people in the country (world?) who can discover the radio pairing code, but as of yet, have neither the time, equipment or funds to discover CID pairing codes.
I think Dave DND can reset a CID to delivery mode, but I have not been able to test his method myself yet.
In Spain there is another person who is able to depair CID (return to Delivery State). The answer is to reset some memory locations inside 93c56.
There are a number of people who can reset CIDs to delivery state, thats easy enough, but very few people who can discover the pairing code used ;)
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Easy, read 93c56 of my paired CID (known code), and search the code inside the dump.
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Easy, read 93c56 of my paired CID (known code), and search the code inside the dump.
Not that simple, the code is encrypted in many instances. Reading a dump with an eeprom programmer is the easy bit, and if you are not carefull you can inadvertantly reprogram one of the bytes to make the chip read only !! Seen it happen far too many times.
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Not fully investigated CID, but suspect it is encoded.
Its something I need to play with a bit more, but currently having a heck of a job programming the eproms for some reason.
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This is getting a bit technical for me i'm used to bikes where you take it off clean it and put it back on and it works again.....but if anyone wants my CID to play with your welcome.
If you can sort it i would pay....i just wanna bolt it in and forget about it.