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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: feeutfo on 03 September 2009, 08:38:25
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i have asked this before, both on here and personally asked Jamie. I think the answer was get any face lift radio loom (from ncdc i guess?) and add a couple of wires...?
I have a TM and button just need to connect it all up.
So question 1
Have i remembered correctly? is that all i need to connect a silver traffic master box to the head unit? Needs an aerial connection also i think?
Question 2
Does anyone have one, thats going to newent, so i can bother Jamie with it yet again :-[ ;D
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Standard 36 Way TM ISO loom but will require the mute and Audio in wiring through (get the required pins from www.nexxia.co.uk).
Aerial connection on the silver ones is a BNC plug with two solid core conductors spread out to make a dipole.
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Standard 36 Way TM ISO loom but will require the mute and Audio in wiring through (get the required pins from www.nexxia.co.uk).
Aerial connection on the silver ones is a BNC plug with two solid core conductors spread out to make a dipole.
Hi Andy, thanks for reply, ihave a TM loom but its from a vectra of some sort and am lead to beleive thats no good? :-/ (as its for a vectra)
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Won't be a 36 Way one then (are there three rows of pins on the top block???)
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Won't be a 36 Way one then (are there three rows of pins on the top block???)
no, only 2 :'(
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right, got a loom, and button. Thanks to Welung 666. Will be using silver box with aerial lead.
....these pins and wires i need to add. Or wires to existing pins or whatever, has anyone got the patients to explane it to me? Like i'm a 2 year old? Prety please?
Baring in mind i know about as much as a 2 year old when it comes to electrics. :-)
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right, got a loom, and button. Thanks to Welung 666. Will be using silver box with aerial lead.
....these pins and wires i need to add. Or wires to existing pins or whatever, has anyone got the patients to explane it to me? Like i'm a 2 year old? Prety please?
Baring in mind i know about as much as a 2 year old when it comes to electrics. :-)
look at diags - the audio in (2 wires) and mute (1 wire, but not needed), need to go through tm box
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34 & 35 IIRC
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
That site is rubbish. You have TIS don't you?
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
That site is rubbish. You have TIS don't you?
Yeah, but last i looked it was fubar. Will check again.
Hang on.
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
That site is rubbish. You have TIS don't you?
Yeah, but last i looked it was fubar. Will check again.
Hang on.
34 35 36 all show "phone/voice control"
3 options, which is which, all Egyptian to me, sorry guys :-[
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Just look at the connector that the car loom plugs into and see what pins are missing!
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Just look at the connector that the car loom plugs into and see what pins are missing!
There as no missing pins on either the radio or car loom end of the tm loom. Each connecter is full of pins and all pins have wires on them.
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
That site is rubbish. You have TIS don't you?
Yeah, but last i looked it was fubar. Will check again.
Hang on.
34 35 36 all show "phone/voice control"
3 options, which is which, all Egyptian to me, sorry guys :-[
2 should be should 'tied' together to imply coaxl or twisted pair
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
That site is rubbish. You have TIS don't you?
Yeah, but last i looked it was fubar. Will check again.
Hang on.
34 35 36 all show "phone/voice control"
3 options, which is which, all Egyptian to me, sorry guys :-[
2 should be should 'tied' together to imply coaxl or twisted pair
Not sure if you mean shot gun style or twisted together to join the wires(some repairs present).
Either way non of the 8 wires that relate to the TM are paired or tied. 8 wires total to TM box, one brown one red and the remaining 6 link pin positions 34 35 and 36.
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
That site is rubbish. You have TIS don't you?
Yeah, but last i looked it was fubar. Will check again.
Hang on.
34 35 36 all show "phone/voice control"
3 options, which is which, all Egyptian to me, sorry guys :-[
2 should be should 'tied' together to imply coaxl or twisted pair
Not sure if you mean shot gun style or twisted together to join the wires(some repairs present).
Either way non of the 8 wires that relate to the TM are paired or tied. 8 wires total to TM box, one brown one red and the remaining 6 link pin positions 34 35 and 36.
I meant on the circuits diags!
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
That site is rubbish. You have TIS don't you?
Yeah, but last i looked it was fubar. Will check again.
Hang on.
34 35 36 all show "phone/voice control"
3 options, which is which, all Egyptian to me, sorry guys :-[
2 should be should 'tied' together to imply coaxl or twisted pair
Not sure if you mean shot gun style or twisted together to join the wires(some repairs present).
Either way non of the 8 wires that relate to the TM are paired or tied. 8 wires total to TM box, one brown one red and the remaining 6 link pin positions 34 35 and 36.
I meant on the circuits diags!
(chuckle) checking, remember a green figure of 8 thing?
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34 & 35 IIRC
sounds about right...
here?
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/More_Information/ISO_wiring.htm
That site is rubbish. You have TIS don't you?
Yeah, but last i looked it was fubar. Will check again.
Hang on.
34 35 36 all show "phone/voice control"
3 options, which is which, all Egyptian to me, sorry guys :-[
2 should be should 'tied' together to imply coaxl or twisted pair
Not sure if you mean shot gun style or twisted together to join the wires(some repairs present).
Either way non of the 8 wires that relate to the TM are paired or tied. 8 wires total to TM box, one brown one red and the remaining 6 link pin positions 34 35 and 36.
I meant on the circuits diags!
(chuckle) checking, remember a green figure of 8 thing?
Yeah 35 and 36(as Andy said. :-) )
Ok so, now what do i do? :-) :-/
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hi, just incase anyone wants a complete setup (new with 1year subs) - flebay - item :190336814389.
quotes - part number - 91157155 mk-026b , unsure if comp with omega :-/(don't have parts quide with me today - sorry) regards
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I'd have thought that'd be fitted and running by now Chris ;D ;D
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hi, just incase anyone wants a complete setup (new with 1year subs) - flebay - item :190336814389.
quotes - part number - 91157155 mk-026b , unsure if comp with omega :-/(don't have parts quide with me today - sorry) regards
Switch and Loom is for a Vectra (CCR600 / CAR400 etc) head unit.
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I'd have thought that'd be fitted and running by now Chris ;D ;D
:-) didnt think i was this thick. Quite an easy job they said.
Come on guys stop messing about. ;D ;D
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hi, just incase anyone wants a complete setup (new with 1year subs) - flebay - item :190336814389.
quotes - part number - 91157155 mk-026b , unsure if comp with omega :-/(don't have parts quide with me today - sorry) regards
Switch and Loom is for a Vectra (CCR600 / CAR400 etc) head unit.
.....already got one of those i think. But thanks anyway. :-)
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Just a thought, when you use a phone with the prewiring on a Bose enabled setup you have to use the Autoleads 06-109B with matching transformers fitted. Does this mean that if you fit a Trafficmaster to the same setup you would be better to fit the line out from the Trafficmaster pre the matching transformers?
Question for TB I guess...
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Just a thought, when you use a phone with the prewiring on a Bose enabled setup you have to use the Autoleads 06-109B with matching transformers fitted. Does this mean that if you fit a Trafficmaster to the same setup you would be better to fit the line out from the Trafficmaster pre the matching transformers?
Question for TB I guess...
Question for TB I guess... [/quote]
Oh, your guessing now? ;D ;D Your not funny you know. ;D ;D Come on! Stop playing. :-) 2 wires you said...... YOOOOU said. :-)
Oh now wait, to do this i need a left handed screw driver a glass hammer AND a loooong wait? Right? :-)
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If your loom is fully wired then you need do no more than plug it in!
:y
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tinkers! Whos in on it? Ya buggers. :-)
Between now and my last post, i just worked that out! in the shower as it happens.....No really!
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Is this any help for you Chris.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/Trafficmaster_Harness_Connectorcorr.jpg)
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Is this any help for you Chris.
(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m302/CaptainZok/Trafficmaster_Harness_Connectorcorr.jpg)
Chrisgixer - your audio from telematics (pins 34/35/36 - which ever 2 it was) need to go to top right 2 of zoks diag
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er..... fitted it. Seems to work. Got voice and "ext. line in" or whatever it is on display. No traffic yet though. But not been on motorway so.....
How come the plastic "cage" thing holding the radio cage in place never lines up with the surround? Radio is off centre still even though i tightened the screws to hold it to the left. rather cage is like a razor. It scratched me plastic wood. :-(
What issues should i expect with the standard wiring if its not as Z's diag? (Cheers captain)
As said all plugs are full of pins.
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Does the phone still work?
If you press TM button, do you hear 'Traffic Master'
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er..... fitted it. Seems to work. Got voice and "ext. line in" or whatever it is on display. No traffic yet though. But not been on motorway so.....
How come the plastic "cage" thing holding the radio cage in place never lines up with the surround? Radio is off centre still even though i tightened the screws to hold it to the left. rather cage is like a razor. It scratched me plastic wood. :-(
What issues should i expect with the standard wiring if its not as Z's diag? (Cheers captain)
As said all plugs are full of pins.
I've got one here Chris ;)
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Does the phone still work?
If you press TM button, do you hear 'Traffic Master'
Phone works, no issues.
When pressing TM during a call it mutes the phone, or what ever is playing, and says Traffic Master, auto mode, manual one, license expired. Etc.
Not tried it with the terwat nav yet but sure its fine. :-)
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ok had a bit of a play on the M4 today.(in the car with the TM of course).
All works fine when in range of a major road. But when out of range the button is dead. Nothing, not even "Traffic Master" or volume mode or license mode no manual or automatic mode. Just doesnt respond, like its dead. But get near the m4 and it works fine. Is that right? Would think it would talk at any time wouldnt it?
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ok had a bit of a play on the M4 today.(in the car with the TM of course).
All works fine when in range of a major road. But when out of range the button is dead. Nothing, not even "Traffic Master" or volume mode or license mode no manual or automatic mode. Just doesnt respond, like its dead. But get near the m4 and it works fine. Is that right? Would think it would talk at any time wouldnt it?
Should do. If its talking, it should always talk?
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ok had a bit of a play on the M4 today.(in the car with the TM of course).
All works fine when in range of a major road. But when out of range the button is dead. Nothing, not even "Traffic Master" or volume mode or license mode no manual or automatic mode. Just doesnt respond, like its dead. But get near the m4 and it works fine. Is that right? Would think it would talk at any time wouldnt it?
Should do. If its talking, it should always talk?
Yeah, thats what i thought. Def talking when in range.
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ok had a bit of a play on the M4 today.(in the car with the TM of course).
All works fine when in range of a major road. But when out of range the button is dead. Nothing, not even "Traffic Master" or volume mode or license mode no manual or automatic mode. Just doesnt respond, like its dead. But get near the m4 and it works fine. Is that right? Would think it would talk at any time wouldnt it?
Should do. If its talking, it should always talk?
Yeah, thats what i thought. Def talking when in range.
Whn in range, is it lighting up red/green as appropriate?
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ok had a bit of a play on the M4 today.(in the car with the TM of course).
All works fine when in range of a major road. But when out of range the button is dead. Nothing, not even "Traffic Master" or volume mode or license mode no manual or automatic mode. Just doesnt respond, like its dead. But get near the m4 and it works fine. Is that right? Would think it would talk at any time wouldnt it?
Should do. If its talking, it should always talk?
Yeah, thats what i thought. Def talking when in range.
Whn in range, is it lighting up red/green as appropriate?
Yes, certainly is. No light at all when out of range, if that helps... :-/
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er..... fitted it. Seems to work. Got voice and "ext. line in" or whatever it is on display. No traffic yet though. But not been on motorway so.....
How come the plastic "cage" thing holding the radio cage in place never lines up with the surround? Radio is off centre still even though i tightened the screws to hold it to the left. rather cage is like a razor. It scratched me plastic wood. :-(
What issues should i expect with the standard wiring if its not as Z's diag? (Cheers captain)
As said all plugs are full of pins.
I've got one here Chris ;)
Is it mint Lee?
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er..... fitted it. Seems to work. Got voice and "ext. line in" or whatever it is on display. No traffic yet though. But not been on motorway so.....
How come the plastic "cage" thing holding the radio cage in place never lines up with the surround? Radio is off centre still even though i tightened the screws to hold it to the left. rather cage is like a razor. It scratched me plastic wood. :-(
What issues should i expect with the standard wiring if its not as Z's diag? (Cheers captain)
As said all plugs are full of pins.
I've got one here Chris ;)
Is it mint Lee?
I'll fetch it in a take some pics in the mornin' :y
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er..... fitted it. Seems to work. Got voice and "ext. line in" or whatever it is on display. No traffic yet though. But not been on motorway so.....
How come the plastic "cage" thing holding the radio cage in place never lines up with the surround? Radio is off centre still even though i tightened the screws to hold it to the left. rather cage is like a razor. It scratched me plastic wood. :-(
What issues should i expect with the standard wiring if its not as Z's diag? (Cheers captain)
As said all plugs are full of pins.
I've got one here Chris ;)
Is it mint Lee?
I'll fetch it in a take some pics in the mornin' :y
if its auto, whats the gear lever surround like? the grey plastic bit between wood and gater. mine scratched by previos owner :(
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if its auto, whats the gear lever surround like? the grey plastic bit between wood and gater. mine scratched by previos owner :(
It is auto but it's gone already and it was also scratched. The new owner is going to flat it down and paint it body colour.
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ok had a bit of a play on the M4 today.(in the car with the TM of course).
All works fine when in range of a major road. But when out of range the button is dead. Nothing, not even "Traffic Master" or volume mode or license mode no manual or automatic mode. Just doesnt respond, like its dead. But get near the m4 and it works fine. Is that right? Would think it would talk at any time wouldnt it?
Should do. If its talking, it should always talk?
Yeah, thats what i thought. Def talking when in range.
Whn in range, is it lighting up red/green as appropriate?
Yes, certainly is. No light at all when out of range, if that helps... :-/
thats correct. Not sure why its silent when out of range - you should still be able to get manual mode/auto mode/volume mode/trafficmaster etc etc from the stereo
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(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0713.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0714.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0715.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0716.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0717.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0718.jpg)
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ok had a bit of a play on the M4 today.(in the car with the TM of course).
All works fine when in range of a major road. But when out of range the button is dead. Nothing, not even "Traffic Master" or volume mode or license mode no manual or automatic mode. Just doesnt respond, like its dead. But get near the m4 and it works fine. Is that right? Would think it would talk at any time wouldnt it?
Should do. If its talking, it should always talk?
Yeah, thats what i thought. Def talking when in range.
Whn in range, is it lighting up red/green as appropriate?
Yes, certainly is. No light at all when out of range, if that helps... :-/
thats correct. Not sure why its silent when out of range - you should still be able to get manual mode/auto mode/volume mode/trafficmaster etc etc from the stereo
Yes thats what i remember from my pre face lift.
I did try the black plastic box lee gave me when installing as the button was dead with the silver box, black one dead too. So put the silver one back in and threw it all back together as i needed the car. I pressed the button constantly when driving and it piped up"traffic master" at the end of my road. But i do live very near the m4 so may have been in range. No info until near a junction though. Strange.
Anyway, as both boxs appear to be the same, would that mean the loom needs altering after all? The loom is from a 2.2.
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(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0713.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0714.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0715.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0716.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0717.jpg)
(http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n282/doris_minor/Gold%20Miggy/DSCF0718.jpg)
Thanks for pics Lee
Think i'll leave it. The scratches i have are of a similar level. Sorry.
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Sounds like loom working fine.
One thing I have noticed, when starting car, refrain from pressing button for about 60s, else it stays quiet. Give that a go.
As to junctions, its designed to warn you of traffic 2 jncs ahead or 10miles, whichever is less iirc.
Or do you mean you have to be right on top of the motorway before it gets a signal? That'll be aerial, but mine is around 100-150m. The one on Mrs TB's Rover is about 3 times that, but it was easy to get an optimal aerial position in that
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Sounds like loom working fine.
One thing I have noticed, when starting car, refrain from pressing button for about 60s, else it stays quiet. Give that a go.
As to junctions, its designed to warn you of traffic 2 jncs ahead or 10miles, whichever is less iirc.
Or do you mean you have to be right on top of the motorway before it gets a signal? That'll be aerial, but mine is around 100-150m. The one on Mrs TB's Rover is about 3 times that, but it was easy to get an optimal aerial position in that
Ok ill try the 60 secs thing. Probably pressed it 50 times by then usually, so far. Im sure the novelty will ware off soon. :-)
Re the 10 miles thing, i am easily within that of the m4. Probably within a mile as the crow flies and 2.5 miles from junctions 10 or 11. So should be well in range but its well built up so could be shielded by hourses until i get to the end of the road where it opens out a bit.
First peep i get is a bleep, well, more of a meep actually, as i get within 100yards of the 329m junction,( dual carriage way which leads to the m4) and have to press the button to get the info even though its set to automatic mode. Next jcn is m4 and can be 2 or 3 miles down m4 before it is mentioned. I keep pressing the button for an m4 report before i turn onto it and it only talks of the 329m. Even though i have been on m4 for 2 or 3 miles.
Having said all that i wonder if it only pipes up automatically when it has something to report. When passed the last junction ,5, before the m25 at 4b it told of standing traffic on the m25 and reported the 404 being clear, something it would have been nice to know when at the 404 junction at junction 9. But thats the limits of the system i guess, so it does seem to work as designed, as you say.
All would seem to suggest i've been hammering the button, of my new toy, like mad to see if its works, and as you say,thats keeping it quiet.
When leaving Chesham and not touching(forgetting) the button as you suggest, it then worked fine when i got near the m40 and wanted info.
Will see if it settles down as the novelty wares off. :-)
Cheers
Chris. :y
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Sounds like loom working fine.
One thing I have noticed, when starting car, refrain from pressing button for about 60s, else it stays quiet. Give that a go.
As to junctions, its designed to warn you of traffic 2 jncs ahead or 10miles, whichever is less iirc.
Or do you mean you have to be right on top of the motorway before it gets a signal? That'll be aerial, but mine is around 100-150m. The one on Mrs TB's Rover is about 3 times that, but it was easy to get an optimal aerial position in that
Ok ill try the 60 secs thing. Probably pressed it 50 times by then usually, so far. Im sure the novelty will ware off soon. :-)
Re the 10 miles thing, i am easily within that of the m4. Probably within a mile as the crow flies and 2.5 miles from junctions 10 or 11. So should be well in range but its well built up so could be shielded by hourses until i get to the end of the road where it opens out a bit.
First peep i get is a bleep, well, more of a meep actually, as i get within 100yards of the 329m junction,( dual carriage way which leads to the m4) and have to press the button to get the info even though its set to automatic mode. Next jcn is m4 and can be 2 or 3 miles down m4 before it is mentioned. I keep pressing the button for an m4 report before i turn onto it and it only talks of the 329m. Even though i have been on m4 for 2 or 3 miles.
Having said all that i wonder if it only pipes up automatically when it has something to report. When passed the last junction ,5, before the m25 at 4b it told of standing traffic on the m25 and reported the 404 being clear, something it would have been nice to know when at the 404 junction at junction 9. But thats the limits of the system i guess, so it does seem to work as designed, as you say.
All would seem to suggest i've been hammering the button, of my new toy, like mad to see if its works, and as you say,thats keeping it quiet.
When leaving Chesham and not touching(forgetting) the button as you suggest, it then worked fine when i got near the m40 and wanted info.
Will see if it settles down as the novelty wares off. :-)
Cheers
Chris. :y
Only pipes up when there is something to say. Bleep means all clear trafficwise.
The range of their transmitters is 100-300 meters, so that all sounds right - its the info about the next 10 miles (or 2 jncs) it gives you
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as Jamie says, leave it a bit before pressing the button and all is well. Works ok actually, for what it is.
Thanks to Lee Andy Jamie and The Captain. :-)
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Carrying this thread on a bit further....(And needing TB's help)
I'm retrofitting Trafficmaster into mine at the moment but i'm doing it slightly differently.
I have the TM button loom extended and this now reaches the passenger side, I have a modified Autolead (06-109B) with the mute line from the Nokia routed through the Trafficmaster so as to mute the HU and allow TM overide via Nokia.
Originally I had the Nokia audio routed through the TM but couldn't get Audio from TM on HU, thought this may be due to the matching transformers so re routed loom so Nokia audio takes original route bypassing TM but TM audio is routed past matching transformers but still no Audio.
1) Does the prewiring route through an Audio transformer on the car loom before it reaches the HU? Can't spot it on TIS.
2) What are your thoughts on bypassing the prewiring and connecting the TM audio out to the Telematics Audio out (Loom is a modded TM Loom!) thereby connecting directly to the HU?
3) If I do the above should I put some diodes in-line on the Telematics audio out to protect it?
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Mine is set up as follows:
Nokia Telematics Nokia Bluetooth
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| Built in isolation/audio transformer
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Mixer circuit and impedence matching
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Traffic Master
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Head Unit
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hmmm, Nokia Bluetooth car kit. And fm ipod emulator thing, what ever their called? Hmmm. Could be a long thread. ;D
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Question for those (TB and Chrisgixer!) with telematics and Trafficmaster....
When in a call via the telematics is the Trafficmaster muted / Does the manual operation of the Trafficmaster over-ride the Telematics in use?
TB will know why i'm questioning this! ::) ;)
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Question for those (TB and Chrisgixer!) with telematics and Trafficmaster....
When in a call via the telematics is the Trafficmaster muted / Does the manual operation of the Trafficmaster over-ride the Telematics in use?
TB will know why i'm questioning this! ::) ;)
The wiring will clearly show you that the Oracle wins... ...unless it is clever enough to see and act on the incoming mute signal :-/. Hmmm, got me thinking now, I shall have to double check...
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Question for those (TB and Chrisgixer!) with telematics and Trafficmaster....
When in a call via the telematics is the Trafficmaster muted / Does the manual operation of the Trafficmaster over-ride the Telematics in use?
TB will know why i'm questioning this! ::) ;)
The wiring will clearly show you that the Oracle wins... ...unless it is clever enough to see and act on the incoming mute signal :-/. Hmmm, got me thinking now, I shall have to double check...
You know where i'm going with this i'm sure!
I am assuming that the Mute input on the Trafficmaster is simply looped through the unit and back out the mute output to headunit.... or is it? (Hence the previous question!)
In an ideal world I would want the Trafficmaster to be overidden by both the Telematics and the Nokia (or any other phone connected via the prewiring with mute function). If the phone is active it should take priority over the Trafficmaster.
In the case of the prewired device then a relay could be made up to allow mute (ie mute line to 0V) from prewiring to switch audio in from prewiring and disabling input from Trafficmaster.
The case for the Telematics is where i'm struggling as it doesn't use the traditional mute function of the head unit so to my mind must use the CANbus to communicate the status?
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Question for those (TB and Chrisgixer!) with telematics and Trafficmaster....
When in a call via the telematics is the Trafficmaster muted / Does the manual operation of the Trafficmaster over-ride the Telematics in use?
TB will know why i'm questioning this! ::) ;)
The wiring will clearly show you that the Oracle wins... ...unless it is clever enough to see and act on the incoming mute signal :-/. Hmmm, got me thinking now, I shall have to double check...
You know where i'm going with this i'm sure!
I am assuming that the Mute input on the Trafficmaster is simply looped through the unit and back out the mute output to headunit.... or is it? (Hence the previous question!)
In an ideal world I would want the Trafficmaster to be overidden by both the Telematics and the Nokia (or any other phone connected via the prewiring with mute function). If the phone is active it should take priority over the Trafficmaster.
In the case of the prewired device then a relay could be made up to allow mute (ie mute line to 0V) from prewiring to switch audio in from prewiring and disabling input from Trafficmaster.
The case for the Telematics is where i'm struggling as it doesn't use the traditional mute function of the head unit so to my mind must use the CANbus to communicate the status?
Just rememebered, for the inbuilt phone, the mute line isn't used, its done via CAN. So guess the telematics has priority. The aftermarket bluetooth kit though.....
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will check in the a.m. Or rather later today if helps further. :-)
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pressed my tm button mid call, via telematics, this morning, and the tm cut in over the call which was muted. Same with the bleep. Is that right? I guess i would prefer it that way?
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pressed my tm button mid call, via telematics, this morning, and the tm cut in over the call which was muted. Same with the bleep. Is that right? I guess i would prefer it that way?
Mine does the same.
No telematics just bluetooth kit, wired via TM box to CCR2006 HU.
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also noticed that pressing the tm button when the head unit is off, truns hu on, and likewise when approaching a junction with head unit off, it turns on to hear the announcement, with no input from me what so ever, smart :y
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also noticed that pressing the tm button when the head unit is off, truns hu on, and likewise when approaching a junction with head unit off, it turns on to hear the announcement, with no input from me what so ever, smart :y
Thats a std feature of all Vauxhall HUs - as soon as the mute line goes active, it turns on stereo to deal with incoming audio