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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: ScaniaV8 on 28 October 2009, 10:21:06

Title: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: ScaniaV8 on 28 October 2009, 10:21:06
Someone somewhere must be able to help me. Sun roof was working Ok before battery disconnected. I have tried the usual reset logic using sun roof switch, even cleaning the internal disk in logic board and finally replacing the complete Sun roof motor and logic board with a replacement unit ( a working one !).
Despite all this....The sunroof will not tilt or slide open.

Is there something obvious I'm missing ? I do see some very small movement and hear some attempted whirring noise from the motor unit but sadly no actual activity with the roof.
I know winter is approaching but it would be nice occasionally to see the blue sky :-). Hopefully some clues please and explanation...many thanks
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 28 October 2009, 11:04:42
Hi,

If you get really stuck then I've got a spare sunroof mechanism thats of no use to me as my car dosn't have one.

PM me if interested ......

Rob
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: Dave DND on 28 October 2009, 11:07:28
Most sunroofs have a manual override using a spanner or allen key.

Might be worth trying this to identify whether you have an electrical or mechanical fault

 :-/
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: rustym95 on 28 October 2009, 11:17:11
have u disconeted the battery properly, as there is a logic board inside the dash on some omega's, if you have a tec2 can see if it is still working,
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: TheBoy on 28 October 2009, 20:51:32
Omega sunroof ecu needs reseting.relearning after batt discon.

move switch to fully open, then press and hold sunroof switch. Then move to close, and press and hold, then to full tilt, press and hold, then close again, press and hold.


Windows too will need resetting
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: LFF64 on 28 October 2009, 21:18:17
Every time  I have had to reset my sunroof I just have the switch in the closed position and push and hold it up for approx 10 seconds .
 Never had to put it to fully open or closed position   ;)
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: rustym95 on 28 October 2009, 21:22:52
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Every time  I have had to reset my sunroof I just have the switch in the closed position and push and hold it up for approx 10 seconds .
 Never had to put it to fully open or closed position   ;)
same here, windows press button to top two times.
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: Andy B on 28 October 2009, 21:24:08
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Every time  I have had to reset my sunroof I just have the switch in the closed position and push and hold it up for approx 10 seconds .
 Never had to put it to fully open or closed position   ;)

You've been fortunate.  ;)
the reset is in the manual page 125   :y
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4559173.stm
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: Andy B on 28 October 2009, 21:25:26
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Every time  I have had to reset my sunroof I just have the switch in the closed position and push and hold it up for approx 10 seconds .
 Never had to put it to fully open or closed position   ;)
same here, windows press button to top two times.

Same as above ..... but page 123  ;) You'd save yourself one press!  ;D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4559173.stm
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: rustym95 on 28 October 2009, 21:46:14
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Every time  I have had to reset my sunroof I just have the switch in the closed position and push and hold it up for approx 10 seconds .
 Never had to put it to fully open or closed position   ;)
same here, windows press button to top two times.

Same as above ..... but page 123  ;) You'd save yourself one press!  ;D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4559173.stm
and dont forget the waiting for all of them, that cop should have had his license taken of him, they get away with any thing, they have training areas to do that speed.
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: Entwood on 28 October 2009, 22:20:24
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Every time  I have had to reset my sunroof I just have the switch in the closed position and push and hold it up for approx 10 seconds .
 Never had to put it to fully open or closed position   ;)
same here, windows press button to top two times.

Same as above ..... but page 123  ;) You'd save yourself one press!  ;D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/4559173.stm
and dont forget the waiting for all of them, that cop should have had his license taken of him, they get away with any thing, they have training areas to do that speed.


?????  I'm thinking you're losing the plot slowly .....  :-/

I don't see that has anything to do with the sun roof ???
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: Dave DND on 28 October 2009, 22:39:12
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Omega sunroof ecu needs reseting.relearning after batt discon.

move switch to fully open, then press and hold sunroof switch. Then move to close, and press and hold, then to full tilt, press and hold, then close again, press and hold.


Windows too will need resetting

trying to get my head around this not having an Omega . . .

After the battery has been disconnected, the sunroof needs to be reset (understood) and this is done by pressing the switch in determined positions for a determined time (understood)

but the bit I struggle with is that the original post said that the rood did not work / open / close - does this mean that the sunrood ecu will not actually move the roof until its reset, and you are not actually resetting the physical position of the roof?
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: Ian_D on 28 October 2009, 23:43:39
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Omega sunroof ecu needs reseting.relearning after batt discon.

move switch to fully open, then press and hold sunroof switch. Then move to close, and press and hold, then to full tilt, press and hold, then close again, press and hold.


Windows too will need resetting

trying to get my head around this not having an Omega . . .

After the battery has been disconnected, the sunroof needs to be reset (understood) and this is done by pressing the switch in determined positions for a determined time (understood)

but the bit I struggle with is that the original post said that the rood did not work / open / close - does this mean that the sunrood ecu will not actually move the roof until its reset, and you are not actually resetting the physical position of the roof?
As far as I know Dave, No the sunroof wont even attempt to move untill the ECU has reset itself by holding the sunroof button in.  :)
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: rustym95 on 29 October 2009, 02:33:27
the sun roof will still move if not set but if the unit fails you have to press the button all the time, have you checked that there is power going to the plug on the board, use a meter and see, on mine ther is 8 wires as there is a board in dash board but m8's has 4 wires, some work on the locking so when the car is locked the sun roof and windows close at same time, and some if the sun roof is open with flap up the flap closes to less than an inch when you lock doors, but see if there is power. :y
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: Dave DND on 29 October 2009, 10:28:03
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Omega sunroof ecu needs reseting.relearning after batt discon.

move switch to fully open, then press and hold sunroof switch. Then move to close, and press and hold, then to full tilt, press and hold, then close again, press and hold.


Windows too will need resetting

trying to get my head around this not having an Omega . . .

After the battery has been disconnected, the sunroof needs to be reset (understood) and this is done by pressing the switch in determined positions for a determined time (understood)

but the bit I struggle with is that the original post said that the rood did not work / open / close - does this mean that the sunrood ecu will not actually move the roof until its reset, and you are not actually resetting the physical position of the roof?
As far as I know Dave, No the sunroof wont even attempt to move untill the ECU has reset itself by holding the sunroof button in.  :)

Thanks  :y
Title: Re: Help please - SUN ROOF will not open
Post by: TheBoy on 29 October 2009, 18:55:00
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Omega sunroof ecu needs reseting.relearning after batt discon.

move switch to fully open, then press and hold sunroof switch. Then move to close, and press and hold, then to full tilt, press and hold, then close again, press and hold.


Windows too will need resetting

trying to get my head around this not having an Omega . . .

After the battery has been disconnected, the sunroof needs to be reset (understood) and this is done by pressing the switch in determined positions for a determined time (understood)

but the bit I struggle with is that the original post said that the rood did not work / open / close - does this mean that the sunrood ecu will not actually move the roof until its reset, and you are not actually resetting the physical position of the roof?
Correct - sunroof won't do anything until it has relearned endpoints and roof resistance