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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: mike j on 16 July 2009, 09:37:43

Title: further to my post of 13th
Post by: mike j on 16 July 2009, 09:37:43
to add to my post re ccrt 700 andcdc2 the 7 digit code for cdc2 is 7 607 797 321. to save you going back radio is a ccrt700, 90 566 805, W8U and other nos for cdc2 are 90 566 804, FD, W1G. and the question was are they a match?
Thanks for looking
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Dave DND on 16 July 2009, 18:08:13
Yes - its a match  :y
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: spiketheskinnydog on 10 August 2009, 12:08:07
There's a complete CCR 600 radio / cassette, CDC2 CD changer and the 16-foot long connection cable here, if you're in need:

Link removed seehttp://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?virboard=Newbies;num=1209458172
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Absolutely no links to your Ebay auctions, or Ebay auction numbers.
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: spiketheskinnydog on 10 August 2009, 20:59:50
Well that's a fat lot of good! What's the point in that? Don't you think forum members have enough sense to make their own decisions as to whether they'd like to buy something? 
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: dbug on 10 August 2009, 21:18:12
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Well that's a fat lot of good! What's the point in that? Don't you think forum members have enough sense to make their own decisions as to whether they'd like to buy something? 

Read the rules mate  ;)
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Dave DND on 10 August 2009, 22:51:56
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Well that's a fat lot of good! What's the point in that? Don't you think forum members have enough sense to make their own decisions as to whether they'd like to buy something? 

Its nothing to do with the forum members - the rules are laid down by the forum moderators, and what they say, goes. Remember, its their forum, and we are but guests.

We must therefore abide by their rules.

 ;)
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: spiketheskinnydog on 10 August 2009, 23:38:10
I'm not convinced people need mollycoddling in this way. The rules are wrong

Anyway, if anyone here feels they've got the ability to use their own judgement, rather than be told what they should and should not be allowed to see, take a look on ebay and pick up a bargain.
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Dave DND on 11 August 2009, 09:17:47
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I'm not convinced people need mollycoddling in this way. The rules are wrong

The rules regarding external ebay links are probably there to prevent people from mass linking their own items for sale at the end of every recent thread whether relavent or not.

Whether the rules are right or wrong is not up for debate. This forum belongs to the person that made up the rules, and the moderators. As a member, you are only a guest, and like everyone else on here, you have been given kind permission (not a right) from the moderators to share the extensive resources and experiences available from others, and to have some banter with some new friends also.

and if you cannot respect that, then maybe this forum isn`t for you?

Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: spiketheskinnydog on 12 August 2009, 09:50:48
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I'm not convinced people need mollycoddling in this way. The rules are wrong

The rules regarding external ebay links are probably there to prevent people from mass linking their own items for sale at the end of every recent thread whether relavent or not.

Whether the rules are right or wrong is not up for debate. This forum belongs to the person that made up the rules, and the moderators. As a member, you are only a guest, and like everyone else on here, you have been given kind permission (not a right) from the moderators to share the extensive resources and experiences available from others, and to have some banter with some new friends also.

and if you cannot respect that, then maybe this forum isn`t for you?


Translation: Welcome to the nanny state!
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Dave DND on 12 August 2009, 10:17:50
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Translation: Welcome to the nanny state!

No, mate. Its means you are using somebody elses forum that is enjoyed by thousands of other members, and is not there simply for you to link to your own ebay listings.

GROW UP  >:(
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Jimbob on 12 August 2009, 10:26:43
Cheers Dave, yes rules for a reason, too many people bitten by dodgy sellers, taking money then disappearing.  hopefully more commited members, ie higher post counts are more likely to stick around and deal properly.

interesting... no posts for 2 years....then suddenly post to sell stuff  :-X

we are NOT a free selling site, the ability to sell here is a priveledge not a right.
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2009, 11:32:29
The ebay rules are there for a reason.  Let me explain some of the reasons.

We (the OOF Admin Team) run this site, at a cost (financially and in time dedicated to it), in order to provide/share knowledge of our cars, allowing us to run them for sensible money.  That is are primary purpose - our reason for existing.

The fact that we have created a community is a useful bonus, and (mostly ::)) worth the cost (again financially and in time) of running those community sections.  Each and every post consumes server resources, which are finite. Even small <1k posts still use disk space, use memory, cpu and disk i/o resources for processing initially and again during display or searches, and again use disk i/o, cpu, memory resources and tape space during backups.

You will notice that www.omegaowners.com generates no income on its own, and we do not have any advertising banners etc on the site. We do not want to have any ads/tracking banners on the site either.  Part of the site (the images server) is paid for by the OOF shop. The main OOF server is paid for by the Admin Team (and it has been migrated to new servers 3 times since OOF started).

Therefore, we have to be a bit selective as to what we can and cannot provide.

What we cannot provide is a free advertising site for people's auctions. We provide a section for established members to sell Omega related bits to members.

Additionally, every post getting spammed by somebody wanting to sell an item gets tiresome to read, and annoying breaks the thread up, which I feel the general OOF membership does not want.

Lastly, there are technical issues around search engines, particularly Google, which I don't want to go in to too much detail.


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I'm not convinced people need mollycoddling in this way
I think said members have more than enough ability to search Ebay, without having to be mollycoddled by someone providing links directly to their auction  :P

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The rules are wrong
No, with our current setup, and looking at a fuller picture than your view, I assure you the rules are right in this instance :y


Thank you for your understanding in this matter.
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: spiketheskinnydog on 12 August 2009, 12:02:36
It's just this sort of petty small-mindedness which led to me avoiding this forum for the past 2 years. Seems like the same hard-core are still vocal. It's a shame, this could be such a useful resource if it was run properly.
I'll stick to other forums now - particularly as I had my omega crushed to buy a better vehicle. Thank you and good bye!  ;D
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: RobG on 12 August 2009, 12:12:59
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It's just this sort of petty small-mindedness which led to me avoiding this forum for the past 2 years. Seems like the same hard-core are still vocal. It's a shame, this could be such a useful resource if it was run properly.
I'll stick to other forums now - particularly as I had my omega crushed to buy a better vehicle. Thank you and good bye!  ;D
The general concensus is that it is. The rules are in place for previously stated reasons. If members do not wish to abide by them they are free to leave
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Jimbob on 12 August 2009, 12:25:42
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It's just this sort of petty small-mindedness which led to me avoiding this forum for the past 2 years. Seems like the same hard-core are still vocal. It's a shame, this could be such a useful resource if it was run properly.
I'll stick to other forums now - particularly as I had my omega crushed to buy a better vehicle. Thank you and good bye!  ;D


in other words you have no interest in this forum, just wish to 'use' it / us to make a quick buck.
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: spiketheskinnydog on 01 December 2009, 15:15:52
Just to update you all - I made over £250 on the parts I listed on ebay, as well as being granted a £2000 scrappage allowance.
As there isn't an omega in the country worth anything like £2,000, I'd advise you all to chop in your old bangers under the scrappage scheme, while there's still time.

You'd be a fool not to
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: hotel21 on 01 December 2009, 15:48:54
Whilst a fair number of Omega's are worth less than 2 grand there are a few worth somewhat more.  I know mine is, certainly to me....

As said many times, here and elsewhere, an article is only worth what someone else is prepared to pay for it.

Hope you enjoy your new car and that there is the same amount of FREE advice for its repair and maintenance as there is for an Omega, and not paying garage prices for its servicing, repairs etc etc etc...   :y
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: hotel21 on 01 December 2009, 15:49:36
And, in any event, this is the electrical section.  Please keep it on topic!  ;D
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Dave DND on 01 December 2009, 16:07:37
I thought you said Goodbye to us in your last post?

 ::)
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: CaptainZok on 01 December 2009, 16:11:22
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Just to update you all - I made over £250 on the parts I listed on ebay, as well as being granted a £2000 scrappage allowance.
As there isn't an omega in the country worth anything like £2,000, I'd advise you all to chop in your old bangers under the scrappage scheme, while there's still time.

You'd be a fool not to
Good for you, now is it a Blue Peter badge or a Crackerjack pencil you're after?
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 December 2009, 16:15:46
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Just to update you all - I made over £250 on the parts I listed on ebay, as well as being granted a £2000 scrappage allowance.
As there isn't an omega in the country worth anything like £2,000, I'd advise you all to chop in your old bangers under the scrappage scheme, while there's still time.

You'd be a fool not to

I wonder what type of FWD repmobile he's driving now?  ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: cruisetopoland on 01 December 2009, 16:43:07
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Just to update you all - I made over £250 on the parts I listed on ebay, as well as being granted a £2000 scrappage allowance.
As there isn't an omega in the country worth anything like £2,000, I'd advise you all to chop in your old bangers under the scrappage scheme, while there's still time.

You'd be a fool not to

I wonder what type of FWD repmobile he's driving now?  ;D

Kevin

The scrappage has profited manufacturers and dealers-not the general public.  I have regularly bought new cars and these two deals can be compared for example;

2008 pre-scrappage deal-
Fiat Panda Active Eco 1.1 via Fiat supersaver; £4895 OTR-minus whatever you could sell your car for; say £500-
Total £4395.

2009 scrappage deal (best)
Fiat Panda Active Eco 1.1 now £6995 OTR minus £2000 scrappage for your car-
Total £4995.
So MORE expensive and due to the frenzy, limited colours, long delivery time etc etc.

The Panda is an example, but this was across the board. Some 2008 deals I found:
NEW Vectra 1.8 Exclusiv £8995 OTR inc metallic
NEW Vectra 1.9 120 CDTI £9995 OTR
NEW Zafira 1.6 Life £9395 OTR
NEW Fiat Sedici 1.9 Multijet Eleganza £9995 OTR inc metallic
NEW Hyundia Sonata 2.0 SE £8504 inc metallic
there were loads of cheap deals about, which were better than any scrappage discount around now....

When the scheme finishes, the demand will slow and new and used prices will drop again when manufacturers do not have a queue of starry eyed punters who just can't do the maths!

At least our Omegas have lost ALL their money and only cost us repairs and fuel.


Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: spiketheskinnydog on 01 December 2009, 21:06:12
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The scrappage has profited manufacturers and dealers-not the general public.  I have regularly bought new cars and these two deals can be compared for example;

2008 pre-scrappage deal-
Fiat Panda Active Eco 1.1 via Fiat supersaver; £4895 OTR-minus whatever you could sell your car for; say £500-
Total £4395.

2009 scrappage deal (best)
Fiat Panda Active Eco 1.1 now £6995 OTR minus £2000 scrappage for your car-
Total £4995.
So MORE expensive and due to the frenzy, limited colours, long delivery time etc etc.

The Panda is an example, but this was across the board. Some 2008 deals I found:
NEW Vectra 1.8 Exclusiv £8995 OTR inc metallic
NEW Vectra 1.9 120 CDTI £9995 OTR
NEW Zafira 1.6 Life £9395 OTR
NEW Fiat Sedici 1.9 Multijet Eleganza £9995 OTR inc metallic
NEW Hyundia Sonata 2.0 SE £8504 inc metallic
there were loads of cheap deals about, which were better than any scrappage discount around now....

When the scheme finishes, the demand will slow and new and used prices will drop again when manufacturers do not have a queue of starry eyed punters who just can't do the maths!

At least our Omegas have lost ALL their money and only cost us repairs and fuel.


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You've been a bit selective there haven't you? Every car you've listed is a dog! The fact is, any dealer selling quality vehicles would not need to offer a discount of £2k, let alone even more.
If you're all happy to keep on repairing/driving your old omegas for the couple of years of useful life they may have left in them that's just fine, but be aware you'll never be offered a £2k trade-in ever again. And before anybody goes on about the cost of servicing new cars in order to safeguard the warranty, bare in mind the fact that you won't need to pay for an MOT for the next three years, and that any repairs, other than the usual tyres, brake pads etc etc etc will be covered by a warranty for a decent length of time. Well worth it, in my opinion
Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: cruisetopoland on 01 December 2009, 22:18:14
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The scrappage has profited manufacturers and dealers-not the general public.  I have regularly bought new cars and these two deals can be compared for example;

2008 pre-scrappage deal-
Fiat Panda Active Eco 1.1 via Fiat supersaver; £4895 OTR-minus whatever you could sell your car for; say £500-
Total £4395.

2009 scrappage deal (best)
Fiat Panda Active Eco 1.1 now £6995 OTR minus £2000 scrappage for your car-
Total £4995.
So MORE expensive and due to the frenzy, limited colours, long delivery time etc etc.

The Panda is an example, but this was across the board. Some 2008 deals I found:
NEW Vectra 1.8 Exclusiv £8995 OTR inc metallic
NEW Vectra 1.9 120 CDTI £9995 OTR
NEW Zafira 1.6 Life £9395 OTR
NEW Fiat Sedici 1.9 Multijet Eleganza £9995 OTR inc metallic
NEW Hyundia Sonata 2.0 SE £8504 inc metallic
there were loads of cheap deals about, which were better than any scrappage discount around now....

When the scheme finishes, the demand will slow and new and used prices will drop again when manufacturers do not have a queue of starry eyed punters who just can't do the maths!

At least our Omegas have lost ALL their money and only cost us repairs and fuel.


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You've been a bit selective there haven't you? Every car you've listed is a dog! The fact is, any dealer selling quality vehicles would not need to offer a discount of £2k, let alone even more.
If you're all happy to keep on repairing/driving your old omegas for the couple of years of useful life they may have left in them that's just fine, but be aware you'll never be offered a £2k trade-in ever again. And before anybody goes on about the cost of servicing new cars in order to safeguard the warranty, bare in mind the fact that you won't need to pay for an MOT for the next three years, and that any repairs, other than the usual tyres, brake pads etc etc etc will be covered by a warranty for a decent length of time. Well worth it, in my opinion
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The Omega is car no. 87, have had 15 new cars over the last few years before cutting back.  Depends on what you want-depreciation is the main cost of owning a car, but I have owned some new cars which have been more cost-effective than secondhand ones.

Yes, the car lists odd cars, but if German is your cup of tea the comparison still holds-car prices have risen to allow scrappage to be taken off whichever brand you are looking at-hence only examples.

In the long run, the scrappage will be phased out and interest in the market will die, supply and demand will once again equalise and then all deals will equal the current scrappage deals.  The deal is made up of £1000 from government, £1000 from manufacturer anyway, so without scrappage you will still get the £1000 discount off most manufacturers and still be able to sell your own car.

I don't quite understand the reason for withdrawing the scheme soon, after all the VAT raised on new car sales more than covers the government contribution of £1000 anyway....

In some cases, scrappage is worthwhile (like your deal where you made £2250) but my point was that cars sold now with scrappage discount still cost more than pre-scrappage prices in 2008 as listed above so the frenzy is daft.

My most cost effective buy was a 2008/08 Daihatsu Sirion 1.0S, costing £6204 new (now £8499!!!), which I ran for exactly 12 months/12,000 miles and sold for £5500-so only £704 for a years (£58 per month) motoring including road tax, warranty, insurance and was sold before needing service, tyres or tax.  At 55+mpg, this £58 per month was saved in fuel so the car was effectively free.  In stark contrast, the Omega is expensive to run, repair and insure but we need the big car.  Note 2008 and 2009 prices again.

Some interesting points amongst this, but mainly;
2009 scrappage prices more than 2008 deals
You can haggle without scrappage as £1000 of it is from mfr
Some people do well (your £2250)
Most do not look at the bigger picture of depreciation of the full price new car
Some base models were "deleted" and some cars have been made "unavailable" due to long waiting lists to avoid losses

It seems to work best if you have an old knacker and want to buy a hard to get, full price, non-discounted car (like a Golf TSi)and are not interested at all in haggling.



Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Dave DND on 01 December 2009, 22:51:01
I`m puzzled . . .   :-?

spiketheskinnydog has stated in this thread about his loathing of the Oof fraternity and the way the forum is run, doesn`t respect the rules of the moderators, wants a prize for selling some junk on ebay, obviously dislikes his Omega and is glad to be rid of it, and has even said goodbye to us all,

and yet he is still banging on with an axe to grind . . .

 :-[

Or is it that your new replacement crapmobile is not popular enough to have its own social network ?

 ;D

Apologies to the other Oofers for this, but it really pisses me off when people just want to fuel an argument without anything constructive to say. This post started with a genuine plea of help from someone in need, and some idiot is now trying to start a fight instead - Over to the moderators to put an end to it I think.

 >:(

Title: Re: further to my post of 13th
Post by: Kevin Wood on 01 December 2009, 23:01:55
Agreed. OPs request has been answered and little point in continuing this debate IMHO.

Locked.