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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Omega 37 on 15 December 2009, 22:36:37
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did elite omegas come with built in sat nav??????
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post 1998 yes, Carin?? In Mini-facelifts
Early Facelift Elites did NOT have Sat Nav, but post 2001 they did 2013/2015 units, with optional colour screen
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IIRC only the 3.0ltr had it as standard in the mini-face
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IIRC only the 3.0ltr had it as standard in the mini-face
pritty sure all Elites did (including 2.5TD) it was leather that was only standard on 3.0's your thinking of :y
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My 1999 "T" 2.5 Elite had leather but no sat nav :P ;D
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My 1999 "T" 2.5 Elite had leather but no sat nav :P ;D
TB's 1998 2.5 TD had no leather but sat nav :P
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i think you maybe right, but most had them, but 3.0's everything was standard 8-)
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i think you maybe right, but most had them, but 3.0's everything was standard 8-)
:P
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Ok thanks next question:
If I could get hold of one could I fit it to my facelift 2.2cdx?????
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For facelift you will ned NCDC 2015 or NCDC 2013, along with the GPS which is a little 'bee sting' ariel for saloons which is mounted on the roof, on estates its a large base of the standard ariel.
GPS will need to be connected to the headunit, along with a MID upgrade to GID or CID. Could be a costly upgrade for the factory fit look, and a system that was designed in late 90's
Far easier and cheaper to get a little Garmin unit :y
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yeah I have one but get fed up of taking it off & putting it on 20 times a day.
can the omega sat nav be updated with the latest maps???
still want one!!!!!!!!!! ;D
cheers
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yeah I have one but get fed up of taking it off & putting it on 20 times a day.
can the omega sat nav be updated with the latest maps???
still want one!!!!!!!!!! ;D
cheers
Yup, new maps can be added :)
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Omega37 - have a look at mine if/when you come over. I have both types in mine.
All post 1998 3.0/3.2 came with some form of satnav, options on all other cars.
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My 1999 "T" 2.5 Elite had leather but no sat nav :P ;D
TB's 1998 2.5 TD had no leather but sat nav :P
retro fitted ;)
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Fakra aftermarket GPS antenna solves the issues in Omegas with the radio aerial in the back window.
Vxl Sat Nav is fairly poor, even with the latest disc.
No postcode search, can't find things like Silverstone circuit/ major airports, house numbers in the required road is very limited, just gives you an intersection (hopeless unless you look at a map to see where each road intersection is, negating the need for the sat nav!!) and re-routing because of Traffic jam is crap
If you are going for a retro fit i wouldn't bother with it, not worth the time effort and money
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Fakra aftermarket GPS antenna solves the issues in Omegas with the radio aerial in the back window.
Vxl Sat Nav is fairly poor, even with the latest disc.
No postcode search, can't find things like Silverstone circuit/ major airports, house numbers in the required road is very limited, just gives you an intersection (hopeless unless you look at a map to see where each road intersection is, negating the need for the sat nav!!) and re-routing because of Traffic jam is crap
If you are going for a retro fit i wouldn't bother with it, not worth the time effort and money
Its a far superior system to *any* portable system.
Granted, no postcodes. I wish Tomtom had no bloody postcodes, stop people from using it. around 15% of postcodes in Tomtom are apprently incorrect.
My NCDR1500 found Terminal 5 3 weeks ago, no issues. Finds most POIs I ask it to. Arguably better than my Tomtom, where I have to rely on 3rd party software to be any good.
House numbers - there are 2 digital mapping companies, Teleatlas and Navteq. Both have limited house numbers. Teleatlas may have some for a street that Navteq doesn't, and vice versa.
BUT the biggest issue with any portable satnav is they are fundamentally flawed. In difficult signal areas (tall buildings, bridges, tunnels, trees), they don't know where they are. Proper factory fit options primarily use speed sensors and gyros, with satelite as a backup, so work fine in these areas. Factory fit work, portable are a poor cousin.
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When I go get me codes read I will have a look at the boys make a decision from there me thinks :-/
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Omega37 - have a look at mine if/when you come over. I have both types in mine.
All post 1998 3.0/3.2 came with some form of satnav, options on all other cars.
The early facelifts did not come with it thought? The 2013/2015 units were not ready until 2001 IIC? :-/
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Omega37 - have a look at mine if/when you come over. I have both types in mine.
All post 1998 3.0/3.2 came with some form of satnav, options on all other cars.
The early facelifts did not come with it thought? The 2013/2015 units were not ready until 2001 IIC? :-/
Not according to the 2000 brochures I have here....
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Is the NCDR1500 the colour screen jobby? :P
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Is the NCDR1500 the colour screen jobby? :P
Not aware of that head unit, do you mean NCDC 2015? - The headunit actually has nothing to do with the type of display, you need a CID for colour display which needs to be de-paired and set in delivery mode to be paired to a new head unit
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Is the NCDR1500 the colour screen jobby? :P
Not aware of that head unit, do you mean NCDC 2015? - The headunit actually has nothing to do with the type of display, you need a CID for colour display which needs to be de-paired and set in delivery mode to be paired to a new head unit
May be wrong, but I thought the NCDR1100,1200 and 1500 were monochrome ?
Fairly sure none of those models never made it to the Omega though, so you may have some connectivity and communication "issues"
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really would not bother myself. Car positioning is far far more accurate and reliable than a portable no doubt about it.
However it is quite heavily ham strung by lack of traffic info, (tmc is built in, but will never work in the uk) and very restrictive software. The user interface cant hold a candle to a tomtom. Maps, poi's. Route summary, how long and how far to destination, the list goes on.
It is nicely integrated with rest of the audio functions though.
Have you considered an up to date sat nav equiped head unit such as a pioneer or the like? Probably better for the money, esp as your car is not bose? Not sure how they work with the check controle functions though?
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really would not bother myself. Car positioning is far far more accurate and reliable than a portable no doubt about it.
However it is quite heavily ham strung by lack of traffic info, (tmc is built in, but will never work in the uk) and very restrictive software. The user interface cant hold a candle to a tomtom. Maps, poi's. Route summary, how long and how far to destination, the list goes on.
It is nicely integrated with rest of the audio functions though.
Have you considered an up to date sat nav equiped head unit such as a pioneer or the like? Probably better for the money, esp as your car is not bose? Not sure how they work with the check controle functions though?
Forgot about that option!!!!!!!! Will have a look at these head units :)
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really would not bother myself. Car positioning is far far more accurate and reliable than a portable no doubt about it.
However it is quite heavily ham strung by lack of traffic info, (tmc is built in, but will never work in the uk) and very restrictive software. The user interface cant hold a candle to a tomtom. Maps, poi's. Route summary, how long and how far to destination, the list goes on.
It is nicely integrated with rest of the audio functions though.
Have you considered an up to date sat nav equiped head unit such as a pioneer or the like? Probably better for the money, esp as your car is not bose? Not sure how they work with the check controle functions though?
Forgot about that option!!!!!!!! Will have a look at these head units :)
Just a word of caution about the current range of aftermarket head units.
There are many El-Cheapo brands out there at the moment, and some of them DO NOT have a speed sensor input - these units are nothing more than a crappy version of a TomTom squeezed into a head unit, and offer nothing more than a portable one.
There are then a range of El-Cheapo units that do have all the correct inputs, but are using some very suspicious guidance software, meaning that map upgrades in the future will NOT be supported. If the mapping software is not from either TeleAtlas or NavTech then walk away, or better still, RUN !!
At the upper end of the price brackets are the names we all know and recognise, Clarion, Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine etc etc, and if you are going to spend out on a vehicle dedicated aftermarket stereo with a built in Nav, then these are the reputable names to go for, yes, they are expensive, and yes, you will get exactly the sort of unit and performance that you are paying for.
;)
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The decent ones are too expensive. Still want the omega built in one even if it not the best in the world.
Dont like things hanging off the dash/windscreen and dont want a non gm head unit.
Will have to find out what bits that I need, the screen, antenna, ?????????????????
Suppose it will take some time to come across the bits, same problem as the electric rear blind I suppose.
:D
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hmm, they are steep, buti've seen the pioneer single din work, albeit with chaviola slide out pop up screen single din effort, and its functions seems very impressive, but tend to agree, anything other than the original range of head units looks pants in most cars.
re the omega and presumably most exec cars, the perfect solution does not exist, and probably wont unless the likes of e.g. tom tom, if thats your flavour, start designing their software into nav enabled head unit for car makers. Aftermarket Head units will never be able to integrate with all functions on all cars......afaik?
Certainly re my Elite, as TB and Dave will probably sigh with boardom, its quite frustraing imo to have such a fully integrated built in system with fairly vital check controle functions/bose/cid idealy placed high in the dash/ nav/ phone etc which was not developed as well, or as far as it could have been...its just too old concidering when the design process started i guess. Certainly parts are an issue if it goes wrong as lazers are hard to find for 2013 and 2015. Replacing it would mean major surgery, loosing cid, loads of cash and loose the integration which is probably its best feature
I'm sure TB will guide you with whats possible at reasonable cost.....
......but i wonder what Dave would fit in his non omega car given the cash, and how that would compare to what TB would fit given whats possible on the omega (2.2 in your case)....
end of meandring ramble ;) ;D
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......but i wonder what Dave would fit in his non omega car given the cash
I am in a very fortunate position that with virtually every head unit available to me, and manufacturers always keen to have me on their side, I do have a few very high end head units at my disposal. But I am aware that money alone does not always make a better head unit - and always think carefully about what I want from it first.
I recently picked up a Subaru Forester as a cheap winter hack for when the cold weather hits. It has a double DIN hole in the dash and a 7" monitor pod at the top. My criteria is that I want a very good sound, iPod and Bluetooth connectivity, and retaining as much load space is essential due to this being a workhorse, but I probably won`t keep the car that long, so no point going crazy.
The setup I decided on is a Clarion CX609E in the double din hole, and a 10 year old Blaupunkt DX-V screen / Nav in the monitor pod at the top of the dash (My personal Nav of choice). Clarion speakers all round, and I will be chopping up and recessing into a quarter panel the clarion amplified sub.
You would be correct in thinking that this appears to be a very restrained system (and really not that expensive either) but this is not my "Sunday best" car, its the one I am going to be using in the snow, and as such, I just want to enjoy some very good sounds whilst I am having fun.
But you may also notice that my setup shown of Double DIN head unit, Standalone Dedicated Nav, Amplified Sub and a simple change of speakers, would also be perfect for a vehicle such as the Omega without breaking the bank
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Aftermarket Head units will never be able to integrate with all functions on all cars......afaik?
Very wrong - modern cars can usually integrate fully with aftermarket head units - how deep are your pockets ?
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Aftermarket Head units will never be able to integrate with all functions on all cars......afaik?
Very wrong - modern cars can usually integrate fully with aftermarket head units - how deep are your pockets ?
;)
My pockets stopped at the MID adaptor, i got the steering wheel controls working which was the main thing i wanted, i could have got it to link to the display as well, but could not justify the expense.
I have an Alpine 9854-R in mine, very happy with it :)
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hmm, they are steep, buti've seen the pioneer single din work, albeit with chaviola slide out pop up screen single din effort, and its functions seems very impressive, but tend to agree, anything other than the original range of head units looks pants in most cars.
re the omega and presumably most exec cars, the perfect solution does not exist, and probably wont unless the likes of e.g. tom tom, if thats your flavour, start designing their software into nav enabled head unit for car makers. Aftermarket Head units will never be able to integrate with all functions on all cars......afaik?
Certainly re my Elite, as TB and Dave will probably sigh with boardom, its quite frustraing imo to have such a fully integrated built in system with fairly vital check controle functions/bose/cid idealy placed high in the dash/ nav/ phone etc which was not developed as well, or as far as it could have been...its just too old concidering when the design process started i guess. Certainly parts are an issue if it goes wrong as lazers are hard to find for 2013 and 2015. Replacing it would mean major surgery, loosing cid, loads of cash and loose the integration which is probably its best feature
I'm sure TB will guide you with whats possible at reasonable cost.....
......but i wonder what Dave would fit in his non omega car given the cash, and how that would compare to what TB would fit given whats possible on the omega (2.2 in your case)....
end of meandring ramble ;) ;D
Pop into your local Toyota dealer and have a look at the top of the range Yaris (I think it was) :-/ :-/ Had a tTom Tom built into the head unit 18 months ago when I was first looking for SWMBO :y :y
But it looked ugly, as it was a Tom Tom unit stuffed into a hole in the HU :o :o :o
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
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Is the NCDR1500 the colour screen jobby? :P
Not aware of that head unit, do you mean NCDC 2015? - The headunit actually has nothing to do with the type of display, you need a CID for colour display which needs to be de-paired and set in delivery mode to be paired to a new head unit
You mean the NCDR1500 as fitted to my prefacelift ;)
All NCDC201x and NCDR1x00 can drive either the mon GID or colour CID, just needs to be correctly depaired/repaired.
chrisgixer - Siemens system and TomTom are about the same featurewise for satnav (unless you want the gay voices such as Ozzie) - TT Traffic does work, but quite an expensive subscription for a poor service, and you get raped for GPRS charges. Its sad in the UK that the implementer wanted to charge for it, but thats life, get over it, and its hardly an issue tbh.
The maps are similar - TT uses Teleatlas (seeing as TT own Teleatlas), Siemens uses Navteq. Both respectable mapping companies, both very accurate and generally pretty up to date.
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
I do think Tomtom have lost their way - pretty much buggered up the WinCE ver going from V3 to V5, never released V7 except to some phone OEMs, then released that crap gayphone version. No idea what they have been smoking back in Holland....
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chrisgixer - Siemens system and TomTom are about the same featurewise for satnav (unless you want the gay voices such as Ozzie) - TT Traffic does work, but quite an expensive subscription for a poor service, and you get raped for GPRS charges. Its sad in the UK that the implementer wanted to charge for it, but thats life, get over it, and its hardly an issue tbh.
The maps are similar - TT uses Teleatlas (seeing as TT own Teleatlas), Siemens uses Navteq. Both respectable mapping companies, both very accurate and generally pretty up to date.[/quote]
Aye? Features will be "basically" the same its a sat nav, thats just it though, basic. And when was data ever expensive? Data is free with a half decent contract, large add on bundles are a couple of quid.
re maps the latest navtec discs have that very irritating reminder to tune to classic fm or cancel tmc(why on a uk map? It doesnt work in the uk) everytime you turn it on. Thats a bit thick you got to admit?
Anyway, stop winding me up. ;D As said its the age of the unit that lets it down. And you havent answered my or the op's question, whats the best GM unit that can be fitted in an Omega? cd 70/80/dvd90? Your supposed to be fitting one or other, cant remember which??? We're all waiting on you.
Beginning to get worried about your continuous gay references. Your not grooming me are you? (pmsl)
;D
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
I do think Tomtom have lost their way - pretty much buggered up the WinCE ver going from V3 to V5, never released V7 except to some phone OEMs, then released that crap gayphone version. No idea what they have been smoking back in Holland....
iPhone version is no different to the very old Pocket PC version i use, has a few more bells and whistles, but basic nav is the same.
Speaking of iPhone i might have been put on the trial of them at work :-X
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re maps the latest navtec discs have that very irritating reminder to tune to classic fm or cancel tmc(why on a uk map? It doesnt work in the uk) everytime you turn it on. Thats a bit thick you got to admit?
Turn off TMC from the menu then!
...'tis annoying though I will admit!!!
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re maps the latest navtec discs have that very irritating reminder to tune to classic fm or cancel tmc(why on a uk map? It doesnt work in the uk) everytime you turn it on. Thats a bit thick you got to admit?
Turn off TMC from the menu then!
...'tis annoying though I will admit!!!
I've put the 03 disc back in now to save the laser. It doesnt have tmc at all bar a few greyed out menu options. :-X :y
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Which reminds me. These head units dont like re writeable media mp3 cdr's and the like, which cause premature laser failure.
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
I do think Tomtom have lost their way - pretty much buggered up the WinCE ver going from V3 to V5, never released V7 except to some phone OEMs, then released that crap gayphone version. No idea what they have been smoking back in Holland....
iPhone version is no different to the very old Pocket PC version i use, has a few more bells and whistles, but basic nav is the same.
Speaking of iPhone i might have been put on the trial of them at work :-X
I def think tt on a mobile media device of your choice is the way to go with mobile nav software. Be it gay phone or whatever "bill gates lick dick product" your into. ;D
Just hope i can find a version that will work on the n900 if they ever release it on a network.
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Aftermarket Head units will never be able to integrate with all functions on all cars......afaik?
Very wrong - modern cars can usually integrate fully with aftermarket head units - how deep are your pockets ?
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Reasonably deep. But being just before xmas i cant reach the small change at the bottom of them at the moment. ;D
But i'm very glad to hear i'm wrong. Which head unit will work and display via a colour screen high in the dash, with check controle, and bose? ....and no can bus(except to cid)no idea what can bus is by the way.
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no idea what can bus is by the way.
Controller Area Network http://www.mjschofield.com/history.htm
A bit like USB2 or firewire for cars. It can be used to connect all sorts of things in a car so long as the manufacturers have written a driver for it........
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no idea what can bus is by the way.
Controller Area Network http://www.mjschofield.com/history.htm
A bit like USB2 or firewire for cars. It can be used to connect all sorts of things in a car so long as the manufacturers have written a driver for it........
Nice one Andy, cheers.
Makes modifying impossible i guess? Seem to remember the rats gang chose the omega for their v8 project due to slippery shape and being a non can car.
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no idea what can bus is by the way.
Controller Area Network http://www.mjschofield.com/history.htm
A bit like USB2 or firewire for cars. It can be used to connect all sorts of things in a car so long as the manufacturers have written a driver for it........
Nice one Andy, cheers.
Makes modifying impossible i guess? Seem to remember the rats gang chose the omega for their v8 project due to slippery shape and being a non can car.
I don't think it prevents modifications. The Omega is described as a half CAN car because two little CAN buses were added to the later cars (1. from the ECU to the OBD socket {I think} and 2. for the GID/CID in cars equipped with satnav)
If you have a full CAN car you need to talk CAN to know when the backlighting should be on and to pick up a speed signal. Once you have full CAN all sorts of things become possible through programming. As DaveDND says it is a question of money.
If you don't have a full CAN car then you can connect up just about anything made since cars became neagitive earth with a bit of inginuity (and lots of wires)
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
I do think Tomtom have lost their way - pretty much buggered up the WinCE ver going from V3 to V5, never released V7 except to some phone OEMs, then released that crap gayphone version. No idea what they have been smoking back in Holland....
iPhone version is no different to the very old Pocket PC version i use, has a few more bells and whistles, but basic nav is the same.
Speaking of iPhone i might have been put on the trial of them at work :-X
I def think tt on a mobile media device of your choice is the way to go with mobile nav software. Be it gay phone or whatever "bill gates lick dick product" your into. ;D
Just hope i can find a version that will work on the n900 if they ever release it on a network.
I do miss having it with me at all times, was very handy. iPhone version runs well, but suffers from poor GPS reception.
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
I do think Tomtom have lost their way - pretty much buggered up the WinCE ver going from V3 to V5, never released V7 except to some phone OEMs, then released that crap gayphone version. No idea what they have been smoking back in Holland....
iPhone version is no different to the very old Pocket PC version i use, has a few more bells and whistles, but basic nav is the same.
Speaking of iPhone i might have been put on the trial of them at work :-X
I def think tt on a mobile media device of your choice is the way to go with mobile nav software. Be it gay phone or whatever "bill gates lick dick product" your into. ;D
Just hope i can find a version that will work on the n900 if they ever release it on a network.
I do miss having it with me at all times, was very handy. iPhone version runs well, but suffers from poor GPS reception.
Poor compared to what would you say? Other portables, other mobiles or in car which it world be worse obviously. May or may not be worth a bluetooth gps device? They still drop out though, as they do.
I guess if its using a surf star 3 chip set then its as good as it gets....?
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
I do think Tomtom have lost their way - pretty much buggered up the WinCE ver going from V3 to V5, never released V7 except to some phone OEMs, then released that crap gayphone version. No idea what they have been smoking back in Holland....
iPhone version is no different to the very old Pocket PC version i use, has a few more bells and whistles, but basic nav is the same.
Speaking of iPhone i might have been put on the trial of them at work :-X
I def think tt on a mobile media device of your choice is the way to go with mobile nav software. Be it gay phone or whatever "bill gates lick dick product" your into. ;D
Just hope i can find a version that will work on the n900 if they ever release it on a network.
I do miss having it with me at all times, was very handy. iPhone version runs well, but suffers from poor GPS reception.
Poor compared to what would you say? Other portables, other mobiles or in car which it world be worse obviously. May or may not be worth a bluetooth gps device? They still drop out though, as they do.
I guess if its using a surf star 3 chip set then its as good as it gets....?
Poor compared to WM6 / Pocket PC devices, i use a very old iPaq paired to a bluetooth GPS i chuck on the dash. The GPS lasts for ever, its got a mobile phone battery, but its gone all the way from here, to Germany, weeks worth of driving, and then back again on a single charge!!!
Signal is always strong thanks to the GPS unit being at the base of the windscreen. I have a mount down low.....
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Its a real bodge job, its just small metal bracket that slots in between the fake wood dash and the 'rubber' dash moulding. I like its position, i hate stuff mounted on the windscreen, they wobble and its too bright right in your eye.
Its mounted out of the way, and just takes a flick of the eyes down to check where i am. Trouble is, down there the iPhone gets poor GPS signal, and being Apple, its picky about what devices it pairs too. Not been able to pair it to either of my bluetooth adpators. :'(
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Aye? Features will be "basically" the same its a sat nav, thats just it though, basic. And when was data ever expensive? Data is free with a half decent contract, large add on bundles are a couple of quid.
re maps the latest navtec discs have that very irritating reminder to tune to classic fm or cancel tmc(why on a uk map? It doesnt work in the uk) everytime you turn it on. Thats a bit thick you got to admit?
Anyway, stop winding me up. ;D As said its the age of the unit that lets it down. And you havent answered my or the op's question, whats the best GM unit that can be fitted in an Omega? cd 70/80/dvd90? Your supposed to be fitting one or other, cant remember which??? We're all waiting on you.
Beginning to get worried about your continuous gay references. Your not grooming me are you? (pmsl)
;D
My company pay my phone bill. They get pissed if I let TT run amock over data. TT does seem to create an awful lot of traffic.
Can't think of much (worthwhile) that TT does that the siemens doesn't, only the siemens does it better.
Turn off TMC - as you say, it'll never work in UK.
CD70. It ain't gonna work. End of.
Best GM system for prefacelifts is NCDR1x00, facelift NCDC201x
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
I do think Tomtom have lost their way - pretty much buggered up the WinCE ver going from V3 to V5, never released V7 except to some phone OEMs, then released that crap gayphone version. No idea what they have been smoking back in Holland....
iPhone version is no different to the very old Pocket PC version i use, has a few more bells and whistles, but basic nav is the same.
Speaking of iPhone i might have been put on the trial of them at work :-X
iphone version is very different to PPC/WinCE/Symbian versions, and very, very buggy. Expect some crashes. Not sure they have fully resolved the issue with Tomtom continuing after a phone call, but thats partly a problem with the OS that crApple have put on
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The new clit's have them too i think, it must be cheaper for manufactures to not bother developing their own any more, and just get tomtom to stick their latest one in.
I do think Tomtom have lost their way - pretty much buggered up the WinCE ver going from V3 to V5, never released V7 except to some phone OEMs, then released that crap gayphone version. No idea what they have been smoking back in Holland....
iPhone version is no different to the very old Pocket PC version i use, has a few more bells and whistles, but basic nav is the same.
Speaking of iPhone i might have been put on the trial of them at work :-X
I def think tt on a mobile media device of your choice is the way to go with mobile nav software. Be it gay phone or whatever "bill gates lick dick product" your into. ;D
Just hope i can find a version that will work on the n900 if they ever release it on a network.
I do miss having it with me at all times, was very handy. iPhone version runs well, but suffers from poor GPS reception.
Poor compared to what would you say? Other portables, other mobiles or in car which it world be worse obviously. May or may not be worth a bluetooth gps device? They still drop out though, as they do.
I guess if its using a surf star 3 chip set then its as good as it gets....?
GayPhone GPS far superior to Tunnie's beloved HTC/Android one... ...as much as it pains me to say, crApple have got that right.
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Trouble is, down there the iPhone gets poor GPS signal, and being Apple, its picky about what devices it pairs too. Not been able to pair it to either of my bluetooth adpators. :'(
gayPhone has probably the best integrated GPS of any phone. Just as well, as gayPhones Bluetooth stack only supports handsfree. If you need a better GPS, you need one of the oddities like TomToms one iPhone bracket
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"I do think Tomtom have lost their way"
Just bought the mrs a tom tom for xmas :(
Thought they were the best, my nav man aint too great.
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CD70. It ain't gonna work. End of.
Yes it will.
A few people have changed the NCDC from a part CAN Vectra C/ Signum to a full CAN CD70
One person has put the FULL CD70 set up with colour screen in a Mk3 Cavalier.
So yes it can be done in an Omega. Just needs an SOT lead and a bit of a re-wire.
TMC is the bigest waste of time, as said above the VXL system is poor, lot worse than even the cheapest Nacteq based stand alone units, its not very user friendly
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Trouble is, down there the iPhone gets poor GPS signal, and being Apple, its picky about what devices it pairs too. Not been able to pair it to either of my bluetooth adpators. :'(
gayPhone has probably the best integrated GPS of any phone. Just as well, as gayPhones Bluetooth stack only supports handsfree. If you need a better GPS, you need one of the oddities like TomToms one iPhone bracket
I find the HTC tracks very well in the car, it takes longer to lock on than iPhone.
iPhone likes going fast ;D
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CD70. It ain't gonna work. End of.
Yes it will.
A few people have changed the NCDC from a part CAN Vectra C/ Signum to a full CAN CD70
One person has put the FULL CD70 set up with colour screen in a Mk3 Cavalier.
So yes it can be done in an Omega. Just needs an SOT lead and a bit of a re-wire.
TMC is the bigest waste of time, as said above the VXL system is poor, lot worse than even the cheapest Nacteq based stand alone units, its not very user friendly
Some of the required signals - speed for one - simply aren't available in can form on omega.
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CD70. It ain't gonna work. End of.
Yes it will.
A few people have changed the NCDC from a part CAN Vectra C/ Signum to a full CAN CD70
One person has put the FULL CD70 set up with colour screen in a Mk3 Cavalier.
So yes it can be done in an Omega. Just needs an SOT lead and a bit of a re-wire.
TMC is the bigest waste of time, as said above the VXL system is poor, lot worse than even the cheapest Nacteq based stand alone units, its not very user friendly
Was hoping for Dvd 90 to make it worth while to be honest?
But am resigned to keeping current head unit. Its not bad when all's said and done. :-)
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"I do think Tomtom have lost their way"
Just bought the mrs a tom tom for xmas :(
Thought they were the best, my nav man aint too great.
afaik tt are the best of the portable sat nav units, if you want better, your into nav head units/factory fit. :)
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Mine is a May 1998 model Elite and the Carin system is fitted as standard. The screen is at the left of the ashtray and the guts are in the boot above the ns wheelarch.
I don't use it cos the control knob just above the handbrake lever is a freekin nuisance cos it activates at the slightest touch then the cow nags you and won't shut up until you gag her. I ended up Bluetacking the cap off a small WD40 over it to stop it getting touched by accident.
Mounted a TomTom 720 instaed and it is magic!
GudLuk
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"I do think Tomtom have lost their way"
Just bought the mrs a tom tom for xmas :(
Thought they were the best, my nav man aint too great.
afaik tt are the best of the portable sat nav units, if you want better, your into nav head units/factory fit. :)
Defo used to be the case, but think they have taken their eye off the ball recently, and struggling to get back in to the market (hence the savage price cuts on the cheaper units)
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Mine is a May 1998 model Elite and the Carin system is fitted as standard. The screen is at the left of the ashtray and the guts are in the boot above the ns wheelarch.
I don't use it cos the control knob just above the handbrake lever is a freekin nuisance cos it activates at the slightest touch then the cow nags you and won't shut up until you gag her. I ended up Bluetacking the cap off a small WD40 over it to stop it getting touched by accident.
Mounted a TomTom 720 instaed and it is magic!
GudLuk
The Carin works, but sluggish with up to date maps. Its accuracy is stunning, even without a gps signal (unplug the aerial, and see how good it is).
The screen is too low, and the control button keeps getting knocked by passenger.
That said, I haven't removed the Carin for my MV6. Its always there if the primary satnav (Siemens NCDR1500 + CID) lets me down.
Wouldn't go back to my standalone TomToms, partly becuase I gave them away, but also its another device to carry around. Oh, and the scrotbags will smash your windows, as they will know its in your glovebox when they see the telltale circles on the screen.
One of my pet hates is the retards who mount their electronic gizmos right in the middle of the screen, reducing their visibility. If my car fails an MOT because an airfreshener just dangles from mirror, I think their should be rules for those idiots too stupid to mount their gizmos properly.
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"I do think Tomtom have lost their way"
Just bought the mrs a tom tom for xmas :(
Thought they were the best, my nav man aint too great.
afaik tt are the best of the portable sat nav units, if you want better, your into nav head units/factory fit. :)
Defo used to be the case, but think they have taken their eye off the ball recently, and struggling to get back in to the market (hence the savage price cuts on the cheaper units)
Bloody hell, they havent gone gay as well have they? So what else are people buying indstead?
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Mine is a May 1998 model Elite and the Carin system is fitted as standard. The screen is at the left of the ashtray and the guts are in the boot above the ns wheelarch.
I don't use it cos the control knob just above the handbrake lever is a freekin nuisance cos it activates at the slightest touch then the cow nags you and won't shut up until you gag her. I ended up Bluetacking the cap off a small WD40 over it to stop it getting touched by accident.
Mounted a TomTom 720 instaed and it is magic!
GudLuk
The Carin works, but sluggish with up to date maps. Its accuracy is stunning, even without a gps signal (unplug the aerial, and see how good it is).
The screen is too low, and the control button keeps getting knocked by passenger.
That said, I haven't removed the Carin for my MV6. Its always there if the primary satnav (Siemens NCDR1500 + CID) lets me down.
Wouldn't go back to my standalone TomToms, partly becuase I gave them away, but also its another device to carry around. Oh, and the scrotbags will smash your windows, as they will know its in your glovebox when they see the telltale circles on the screen.
One of my pet hates is the retards who mount their electronic gizmos right in the middle of the screen, reducing their visibility. If my car fails an MOT because an airfreshener just dangles from mirror, I think their should be rules for those idiots too stupid to mount their gizmos properly.
Exactly why mine is mounted out of the way down low, does not get in the way. I find it causes too much reflection if mounted on the windscreen too.
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Mine is a May 1998 model Elite and the Carin system is fitted as standard. The screen is at the left of the ashtray and the guts are in the boot above the ns wheelarch.
I don't use it cos the control knob just above the handbrake lever is a freekin nuisance cos it activates at the slightest touch then the cow nags you and won't shut up until you gag her. I ended up Bluetacking the cap off a small WD40 over it to stop it getting touched by accident.
Mounted a TomTom 720 instaed and it is magic!
GudLuk
The Carin works, but sluggish with up to date maps. Its accuracy is stunning, even without a gps signal (unplug the aerial, and see how good it is).
The screen is too low, and the control button keeps getting knocked by passenger.
That said, I haven't removed the Carin for my MV6. Its always there if the primary satnav (Siemens NCDR1500 + CID) lets me down.
Wouldn't go back to my standalone TomToms, partly becuase I gave them away, but also its another device to carry around. Oh, and the scrotbags will smash your windows, as they will know its in your glovebox when they see the telltale circles on the screen.
One of my pet hates is the retards who mount their electronic gizmos right in the middle of the screen, reducing their visibility. If my car fails an MOT because an airfreshener just dangles from mirror, I think their should be rules for those idiots too stupid to mount their gizmos properly.
I agree with your sentiment but (talking as a motorcycle rider) I believe the worst place is on the screen next to the A pillar.
Modern cars already have A pillars fat enough to hide a motorcycle (hence contributing to the 'sorry mate didn't see you' incidents). Having the GPS there as well means the motorcycle is hidden till just after the rider flies over the bonnet >:(
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Mine is a May 1998 model Elite and the Carin system is fitted as standard. The screen is at the left of the ashtray and the guts are in the boot above the ns wheelarch.
I don't use it cos the control knob just above the handbrake lever is a freekin nuisance cos it activates at the slightest touch then the cow nags you and won't shut up until you gag her. I ended up Bluetacking the cap off a small WD40 over it to stop it getting touched by accident.
Mounted a TomTom 720 instaed and it is magic!
GudLuk
The Carin works, but sluggish with up to date maps. Its accuracy is stunning, even without a gps signal (unplug the aerial, and see how good it is).
The screen is too low, and the control button keeps getting knocked by passenger.
That said, I haven't removed the Carin for my MV6. Its always there if the primary satnav (Siemens NCDR1500 + CID) lets me down.
Wouldn't go back to my standalone TomToms, partly becuase I gave them away, but also its another device to carry around. Oh, and the scrotbags will smash your windows, as they will know its in your glovebox when they see the telltale circles on the screen.
One of my pet hates is the retards who mount their electronic gizmos right in the middle of the screen, reducing their visibility. If my car fails an MOT because an airfreshener just dangles from mirror, I think their should be rules for those idiots too stupid to mount their gizmos properly.
I agree with your sentiment but (talking as a motorcycle rider) I believe the worst place is on the screen next to the A pillar.
Modern cars already have A pillars fat enough to hide a motorcycle (hence contributing to the 'sorry mate didn't see you' incidents). Having the GPS there as well means the motorcycle is hidden till just after the rider flies over the bonnet >:(
Could be mounted low enough down pillar, so as not to be in any field of vision. But far better to mount below the windscreen line. Smack bang in the middle of field of vision should be rather banned and policed. You wouldn't have a sticker in the middle of your visor, would you.