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Title: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 January 2010, 12:50:13
My Omega has recently started beeping a quiet acknowledgment on locking/unlocking via remote when hazards flash-from the boot area, and now this beeps quietly in time with the right indicator/flasher or hazards-but not the left!!  Huh??

Car has a towbar and aftermarket rear parking sensors, but not towing at present and sensors switched off (sounder on rear shelf-so not this).  It's not the power sounder, so I'm guessing its a beeper repeater for the towbar indicators, located near the boot lock somewhere as this is where the sound is coming from.

Any ideas??

Guessing that it is a towbar wiring issue?

Comments appreciated...
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Andy B on 04 January 2010, 12:53:42
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Car has a towbar and aftermarket rear parking sensors, but not towing at present and sensors switched off (sounder on rear shelf-so not this).  It's not the power sounder, so I'm guessing its a beeper repeater for the towbar indicators, located near the boot lock somewhere as this is where the sound is coming from.

Any ideas??

Guessing that it is a towbar wiring issue?

Comments appreciated...

Just follow the wires back from the indicators, & when you've found the box rip it out! Replace the 3 pin flasher unit in the front fuse box (under steering column) with a 4 pin, put a lamp in the dash for the trailer tell-tale and you're sorted! Lazy towbar fitter couldn't be 4r$ed removing the dash!  :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 January 2010, 13:08:48
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Car has a towbar and aftermarket rear parking sensors, but not towing at present and sensors switched off (sounder on rear shelf-so not this).  It's not the power sounder, so I'm guessing its a beeper repeater for the towbar indicators, located near the boot lock somewhere as this is where the sound is coming from.

Any ideas??

Guessing that it is a towbar wiring issue?

Comments appreciated...

Just follow the wires back from the indicators, & when you've found the box rip it out! Replace the 3 pin flasher unit in the front fuse box (under steering column) with a 4 pin, put a lamp in the dash for the trailer tell-tale and you're sorted! Lazy towbar fitter couldn't be 4r$ed removing the dash!  :y

Cheers-won't be towing so will just take off plastic cowl, find beeper, remove it and join wires for now.

Where do I get a 4 pin and bulb from if needed?

Is towbar checked on MOT?

Thanks  :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Iain on 04 January 2010, 13:09:19
Its not the power sounder battery warning is it??
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 January 2010, 13:10:26
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Its not the power sounder battery warning is it??

Power sounder replaced in 2008 by VX and is located under bonnet, so guessing it's not this!
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Iain on 04 January 2010, 13:12:16
Was only a suggestion!!
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 January 2010, 13:19:20
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Was only a suggestion!!

Cheers-appreciated  :y :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Andy B on 04 January 2010, 13:21:33
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Cheers-won't be towing so will just take off plastic cowl, find beeper, remove it and join wires for now.

Where do I get a 4 pin and bulb from if needed?

Is towbar checked on MOT?

Thanks  :y

Halfords do flasher relays & I'm sure they do the little lamps - there's two wattages (is that a word?) available if not Halfords then the dealers sell them.
Towbars have just recently been included in your MOT but only from a meachanical/integrity point of view - it does NOT check the electrics.  :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Iain on 04 January 2010, 13:23:57
 :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 04 January 2010, 13:24:14
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Cheers-won't be towing so will just take off plastic cowl, find beeper, remove it and join wires for now.

Where do I get a 4 pin and bulb from if needed?

Is towbar checked on MOT?

Thanks  :y

Halfords do flasher relays & I'm sure they do the little lamps - there's two wattages (is that a word?) available if not Halfords then the dealers sell them.
Towbars have just recently been included in your MOT but only from a meachanical/integrity point of view - it does NOT check the electrics.  :y

Very helpful and informative-many thanks indeed Andy  :y :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Shackeng on 04 January 2010, 17:57:57
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Car has a towbar and aftermarket rear parking sensors, but not towing at present and sensors switched off (sounder on rear shelf-so not this).  It's not the power sounder, so I'm guessing its a beeper repeater for the towbar indicators, located near the boot lock somewhere as this is where the sound is coming from.

Any ideas??

Guessing that it is a towbar wiring issue?

Comments appreciated...

Just follow the wires back from the indicators, & when you've found the box rip it out! Replace the 3 pin flasher unit in the front fuse box (under steering column) with a 4 pin, put a lamp in the dash for the trailer tell-tale and you're sorted! Lazy towbar fitter couldn't be 4r$ed removing the dash!  :y


I guess I could maybe use the same 4pin idea to feed a louder buzzer for indicators Andy, what say you :-? :-? :-?

PS to Mods, Sorry if slightly off topic
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Andy B on 04 January 2010, 21:02:21
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...... I guess I could maybe use the same 4pin idea to feed a louder buzzer for indicators Andy, what say you :-? :-? :-?

PS to Mods, Sorry if slightly off topic

The 4 pin flasher wil give a tell tale on the dash, so you won't need a buzzer!  :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Shackeng on 05 January 2010, 13:15:38
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...... I guess I could maybe use the same 4pin idea to feed a louder buzzer for indicators Andy, what say you :-? :-? :-?

PS to Mods, Sorry if slightly off topic

The 4 pin flasher wil give a tell tale on the dash, so you won't need a buzzer!  :y  :y  :y

Sorry to appear dense, but where would you put the flasher? The existing ones, are not obvious beacause of wheel position and seat well back. :-? :-? :-?
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Andy B on 05 January 2010, 13:27:48
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...... I guess I could maybe use the same 4pin idea to feed a louder buzzer for indicators Andy, what say you :-? :-? :-?

PS to Mods, Sorry if slightly off topic

The 4 pin flasher wil give a tell tale on the dash, so you won't need a buzzer!  :y  :y  :y

Sorry to appear dense, but where would you put the flasher? The existing ones, are not obvious beacause of wheel position and seat well back. :-? :-? :-?


You swap one for the other. It's in the relay/fuse box under the steering column, opperater the hazzards and you can feel which one is clicking ....... too much snow outside to go & look at mine!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Shackeng on 05 January 2010, 19:09:05
You swap one for the other. It's in the relay/fuse box under the steering column, opperater the hazzards and you can feel which one is clicking ....... too much snow outside to go & look at mine!!

Sorry Andy, I didn't make myself clear. I meant where in the dash lighting can you fit an extra light? (I've never had mine off so apologies if it is obvious) :-?
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Andy B on 05 January 2010, 19:43:12
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You swap one for the other. It's in the relay/fuse box under the steering column, opperater the hazzards and you can feel which one is clicking ....... too much snow outside to go & look at mine!!

Sorry Andy, I didn't make myself clear. I meant where in the dash lighting can you fit an extra light? (I've never had mine off so apologies if it is obvious) :-?

Ooops!  ;)
See page 26 & 27 clicky (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.reynolds983/Manuals/Omega2002Manual.pdf)  :y  :y

and to remove the dash ....... http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152618876  :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Shackeng on 05 January 2010, 23:16:04
Cheers mate, I'll have a look tomorrow off up the wooden hills now. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 15 January 2010, 15:01:03
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My Omega has recently started beeping a quiet acknowledgment on locking/unlocking via remote when hazards flash-from the boot area, and now this beeps quietly in time with the right indicator/flasher or hazards-but not the left!!  Huh??

Car has a towbar and aftermarket rear parking sensors, but not towing at present and sensors switched off (sounder on rear shelf-so not this).  It's not the power sounder, so I'm guessing its a beeper repeater for the towbar indicators, located near the boot lock somewhere as this is where the sound is coming from.

Any ideas??

Guessing that it is a towbar wiring issue?

Comments appreciated...

Right-had it to pieces; another 2 hours working on this car  >:(

Rang the towbar fitter who said most likely to be water in socket-pulled caps off, looks damp.

Had the trim panel off, pulled all the wiring out of the hole and inspected, lots of Scotch clips  >:(
One thick brown wire looked like had once been in a Scotch clip due to sheathing missing, everything else looked normal.

Stripped top damp socket, red wire loose, re-connected.  Disconnected green wire on socket as suggested by fitter, to see if this is the prob; still beeps.  Bloody thing.

Car works fine otherwise, so decided to re-assemble and refit.  Two hours and no progress.   >:( >:(

Don't use the towbar, but like everything perfect on the car so a little fault like a beeping right indicator is hugely annoying to me.  Not bothered about removing beeper and fitting dash light, just want what is fitted to work 100%.

Will dry the sockets out and have another go in the dry.

 >:(
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Andy B on 15 January 2010, 18:56:38
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 lots of Scotch clips  >:(
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Will dry the sockets out and have another go in the dry.

 >:(

Horrible things that should be binned!

I generally fill the back of the plug & socket with silicon grease when I fit them. You can then even undo them at a later date if need be!  :y  :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 15 January 2010, 18:58:38
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 lots of Scotch clips  >:(
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Will dry the sockets out and have another go in the dry.

 >:(

Horrible things that should be binned!

I generally fill the back of the plug & socket with silicon grease when I fit them. You can then even undo them at a later date if need be!  :y  :y

cant be bothered with it now-it can beep all it likes-stereo on
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: Dave DND on 15 January 2010, 20:28:51
I fully agree that the scotchlocks should be binned, and my guess is that they may actually be causing the problem.

here`s my thoughts -

Scotchlocks are notorious for crap connectivity and are known to break down over time (or bumps) that we all know, but could it be that one of them is partially breaking down and giving a high enough resistance that the circuitry thinks that a trailer is connected, and therefore setting off the warning beeper ?
 :-?

I completely applaud the correct use of the stereo to drown out the faults though
 ;D
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 15 January 2010, 20:49:16
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I fully agree that the scotchlocks should be binned, and my guess is that they may actually be causing the problem.

here`s my thoughts -

Scotchlocks are notorious for crap connectivity and are known to break down over time (or bumps) that we all know, but could it be that one of them is partially breaking down and giving a high enough resistance that the circuitry thinks that a trailer is connected, and therefore setting off the warning beeper ?
 :-?

I completely applaud the correct use of the stereo to drown out the faults though
 ;D

It worked on Mother's gallstones  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 15 January 2010, 20:50:55
Scotchlocks...

What WERE they thinking? 

If I ever have any wiring issue, these are usually the cuplrit.  Crap bodge items.  BAN them  :y
Title: Re: Strange beeping from OSR flasher..!!
Post by: cruisetopoland on 26 January 2010, 20:40:00
welung666 cured this  :y

We had the wiring to bits removed all the Scotchlocks and welung soldered and sealed all connections, then inspected the sockets.

The culprit was the lower socket which had corroded and was replaced.

Problem solved  :y