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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Shallow Al on 16 January 2010, 03:23:12

Title: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Shallow Al on 16 January 2010, 03:23:12
Quick question please.
Does a CDR2005 have an aux in for an MP3 player, or does it have to go via the aerial. The user guide mentions some sort of input for a phone but I am not sure its going to be suitable.
Thanks in advance guys. :y
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Shallow Al on 16 January 2010, 03:52:00
Just been looking on T'inernet, and I guess it does'nt.
Harman Kardon Drive and Play may be the way to go, or get a new head unit if the old lady lets me. :-/
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 16 January 2010, 10:13:40
No, CDR2005 does not have any form of AUX in

 :'(
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: TheBoy on 16 January 2010, 19:30:13
None of the standard Omega radios have an AUX in.

They all have a lo-fi mono input suitable for phone.
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 17 January 2010, 11:39:22
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None of the standard Omega radios have an AUX in.

They all have a lo-fi mono input suitable for phone.

Not all, the lower spec ones do not have this feature

 ;)


Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: TheBoy on 17 January 2010, 20:51:27
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None of the standard Omega radios have an AUX in.

They all have a lo-fi mono input suitable for phone.

Not all, the lower spec ones do not have this feature

 ;)


Lowest spec fitted to Omega are CAR400/cdr500/CDR2005, all of which have phone.  I know there are others in the Vx range that are even lower spec, but not fitted to omega
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 17 January 2010, 23:11:29
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None of the standard Omega radios have an AUX in.

They all have a lo-fi mono input suitable for phone.

Not all, the lower spec ones do not have this feature

 ;)


Lowest spec fitted to Omega are CAR400/cdr500/CDR2005, all of which have phone.  I know there are others in the Vx range that are even lower spec, but not fitted to omega

1st version of CAR400 didn`t have the phone input - pins were in the block, but not connected internally - very few made it as far as the Omega though, that primarily used V2 and V3, but that said, I have seen some used.

Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: TheBoy on 18 January 2010, 09:25:58
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None of the standard Omega radios have an AUX in.

They all have a lo-fi mono input suitable for phone.

Not all, the lower spec ones do not have this feature

 ;)


Lowest spec fitted to Omega are CAR400/cdr500/CDR2005, all of which have phone.  I know there are others in the Vx range that are even lower spec, but not fitted to omega

1st version of CAR400 didn`t have the phone input - pins were in the block, but not connected internally - very few made it as far as the Omega though, that primarily used V2 and V3, but that said, I have seen some used.

Certainly all the ones I've tested for have it, and remember that all Omegas had the Traffic Master from around 97(?), which used the same input, but I guess by then, we were well on the later revisions of CAR400 :)
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Psychoca on 21 January 2010, 19:38:20
Possibly a bit of a dumb question/suggestion, but, could the CD Changer line be "hacked" to put connect the mp3 player to???
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 21 January 2010, 20:34:35
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Possibly a bit of a dumb question/suggestion, but, could the CD Changer line be "hacked" to put connect the mp3 player to???

No, and not really worth the effort looking into such a modification on a less than bottom of the range head unit.

 :'(
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Andy H on 21 January 2010, 21:31:24
If you are a genius with electronics then it might be possible. There are a number of projects trying to reverse engineeer the cd interfaces on a variety of headunits.

Some of the projects try to spoof the cd input to accept an aux stereo input, others aim to enable a 'car computer' to control a boot cd changer.

I suspect that most of the people who start on these projects probably change cars before getting it working. The only project I know of that has achieved its primary aim is one that uses a PIC controller to spoof the input on a Golf Mk4 HU to work with an ipod or MP3 player.

The following links give a flavour of what people are doing.

I find the subject fascinating but won't be attempting to build my own...........

HTH

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/hardware-development/104709-renault-radiosat-6010-philips-d2b-cd-changer-emulator.html

http://empegbbs.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/182036?PHPSESSID=zydbfcjc

http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?cmd=print&id=13955

Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 21 January 2010, 22:39:35
Before trying to redesign a head unit, I`d be looking at the Blaupunkt 420 BP8392 that is fitted down under to the Holdens

Looks very similar to a CAR400 but also has a 3.5mm jack socket on the front for a CD input

 :-?
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Gomes on 27 January 2010, 11:17:16
Hi, there are three ways to do it:

1. Use FM transmitter, but it is rubbish (low fi and weak signal), I was thinking about build stronger signal FM transmitter but it is illegal in UK to emit more than 50 nanowatts effective radiated power.

2. Use TEL input in your CDR, connect (ground) jack iPod signal to pin 13, L and R signal to pin 16. If you switch iPod on, radio mute and display shows "Message", but it is only mono.

(http://grzesiek.co.uk/omega/isoc3.gif)

3. Look at that link: http://www.css-haupt.de/vectra/english.html... but I wouldn't like to comment it.
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 27 January 2010, 12:03:16
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1. Use FM transmitter, but it is rubbish (low fi and weak signal),

This is the FM modulator that the Car Audio professional installers use, works fabulously and we have no complaints from it !!

http://www.dndservices.co.uk/am-88t.html

 ;)
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Weds on 28 January 2010, 14:40:51
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1. Use FM transmitter, but it is rubbish (low fi and weak signal),

This is the FM modulator that the Car Audio professional installers use, works fabulously and we have no complaints from it !!

http://www.dndservices.co.uk/am-88t.html

 ;)

I'll second that, bought one from Dave and very impressed..
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: djac on 28 January 2010, 14:50:35
Does this unit have to be professionally installed?

I see there is an 'Ant' wire, does that hook into the car's antenna feed, or is it just a trailing wire?
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 28 January 2010, 15:02:01
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Does this unit have to be professionally installed?

I see there is an 'Ant' wire, does that hook into the car's antenna feed, or is it just a trailing wire?

Anyone can fit it, although if you have to ask the question, then it may be beyond your capabilities.

Ant wire is the Antenna itself and is not connected to anything.

 :y
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: djac on 28 January 2010, 15:06:44
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Does this unit have to be professionally installed?

I see there is an 'Ant' wire, does that hook into the car's antenna feed, or is it just a trailing wire?

Anyone can fit it, although if you have to ask the question, then it may be beyond your capabilities.

Ant wire is the Antenna itself and is not connected to anything.

 :y

That doesn't necessarily follow....

It was more an inquiry on what was recommended...
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 28 January 2010, 15:23:16
Without knowing your technical capabilities, I can only err on the side of caution with a reply.

In my experience, the "generalised" question you have asked usually comes from someone who only has limited understanding of vehicle electrics, hence my answer - a bit like the old saying in a shop of an item with no price shown, if you have to ask, you cant afford it.

That said, if you can find a live and earth in the car and fit a switch in line to power it up, thats about all that is involved - live to the unit, plug in your source signal and tune in the radio.

If that sounds simple, thats because it is !!

 :y
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Andy B on 28 January 2010, 15:31:08
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 if you can find a  .... earth in the car  ......
 :y

You'll be getting told off by MarksDTM!  ::)  ::) ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 28 January 2010, 15:33:24
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 if you can find a  .... earth in the car  ......
 :y

You'll be getting told off by MarksDTM!  ::)  ::) ;)  ;)  ;)

be fair, I did say IF

 :P
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 January 2010, 15:36:36
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 if you can find a  .... earth in the car  ......
 :y

You'll be getting told off by MarksDTM!  ::)  ::) ;)  ;)  ;)

be fair, I did say IF

 :P

There's plenty in my car. Must give it a vacuum. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Andy B on 28 January 2010, 15:44:25
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 if you can find a  .... earth in the car  ......
 :y

You'll be getting told off by MarksDTM!  ::)  ::) ;)  ;)  ;)

be fair, I did say IF

 :P

He has zero volts in his car not earths!  ;) ;)  ::)
Title: Re: CDR2005 Aux in?
Post by: Dave DND on 28 January 2010, 16:11:06
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 if you can find a  .... earth in the car  ......
 :y

You'll be getting told off by MarksDTM!  ::)  ::) ;)  ;)  ;)

be fair, I did say IF

 :P

He has zero volts in his car not earths!  ;) ;)  ::)

Ah! Wasn`t aware of that one   :-X