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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: kristopha_100 on 10 February 2010, 19:19:44

Title: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 10 February 2010, 19:19:44
Hey, i've got a GLS Omega and i've seen at a scrapyard an Omega with a built in sat nav.....
Will this ever work in my car ??

Its the one that goes next to the head unit.

Thanks,
Kris
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 10 February 2010, 19:21:39
need the screen, button, main unit (in boot) and loom
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 10 February 2010, 19:24:22
Ok, so if I buy those things will it happily work ?

I hope the answers yes.
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: goonv6 on 10 February 2010, 19:27:22
Yes, Don't forget to prise the aerial off the windsceen and get the speaker from the passenger footwell.
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 10 February 2010, 19:29:10
I've got an aerial on mine already and a speaker in the footwell. Should I try and find where my wires run too ?
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 10 February 2010, 19:36:28
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I've got an aerial on mine already and a speaker in the footwell. Should I try and find where my wires run too ?
How come you already have speaker and aerial  - was one fitted before?

If you just need screen, I **may** have a spare...
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 10 February 2010, 19:51:33
Well, to be honest I don't know what i've got.
In the footwell there is a speaker, its about 4" long and 3" tall. It kinda moves. Then on the back window i've got an aerial but I don't know what it does.
If I had one fitted before, where would the main box be ?
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: Andy B on 10 February 2010, 19:53:20
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If I had one fitted before, where would the main box be ?

In the boot, rear of the spare wheel. ;)
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 10 February 2010, 20:35:45
Anyone know what it may look like ?
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: VXL V6 on 10 February 2010, 20:42:31
Sounds as if you have the remnants of a Mobile phone handsfree car kit.

Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 10 February 2010, 20:45:33
AAAAHHHHHHH, that may explain alot.
Probably right.
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: TheBoy on 10 February 2010, 20:59:50
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Sounds as if you have the remnants of a Mobile phone handsfree car kit.

I concur
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: Andy B on 10 February 2010, 21:04:52
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Anyone know what it may look like ?

clicky (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CARIN-PHILIPS-SAT-NAV-DRIVE-WITH-DISC_W0QQitemZ130365039261QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_GPSSystems_GPSSystems?hash=item1e5a5ca29d)  :y
(http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!BlWiODgB2k~$(KGrHqYH-CgEtrM6s27kBLbYU3r5P!~~_12.JPG)
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 10 February 2010, 21:31:33
Thats definately not in my car.
So, just to conclude...

I need:
Screen, Box in boot, Aerial, Speaker and the Loom ?
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: zirk on 11 February 2010, 12:46:14
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Thats definately not in my car.
So, just to conclude...

I need:
Screen, Box in boot, Aerial, Speaker and the Loom ?

Plus Control Button and Disk.
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 14 February 2010, 18:00:43
Hold on, you haven't told us how old your GLS is. It makes all the difference.

If its a pre-facelift then you wont have the necessary socket for the wiring loom.

If its a mini-facelift then you may be lucky & it may have the socket in the passenger side kick panel for the loom to plug into.
I was lucky in that my '98 CD had the connector in place - but it was taped up and out of the way.

I think you might be very lucky indeed if it's there though as a mates '98 GLS dosn't have the wiring in place for heated seats and rear electric windows. So, fingers crossed.

If not then you need to hack off as much of the cable on the loom of the car that you are removing it from.

Some models ('98 I think) have one Carin loom that plugs into this main loom, whereas the newer ones have a two piece loom, with the dash portion being a real challenge to extract. If its a single loom model then there will also be a thin red wire which trails around into the back of the fuse box under the steering column. This was resolved with the newer 2 part ones.

Older ones have the GPS aerial visible and located near the tax disk, but newer ones have it hidden behind the centre air vents. The visible ones have a long thin coax to the drive wheras the 2 part loom ones have a coax joint.

If your car is a saloon then the mounting bracket for the drive unit may not be as shown in the picture, but one having long arms going to bold positions - recover the bolts/nuts as you will need them. If its an estate then it could be located in one of 2 other places, but we can go into that if needs be.

If you are tempted to install the drive unit elsewhere, then make sure that its horizontal with the CD slot pointing to the drivers side. The unit is fitted with gyros and needs to be this way round to avoid getting confused.

Finally, if you don,t have the connector then dont dispair, if you hack the connector off the donor car then you will have the basis to go forward - the necessary signals for the connector are easy enough to splice in.

Hope this dosn't confuse you too much  :o, I had to figure it all out from scratch when I did my first one many years ago before OOF existed.

HTH .......... Rob
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 14 February 2010, 20:10:39
I ... Am ... Confused.
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 14 February 2010, 20:11:00
By the way, I do have the pre-facelift.

Kris.
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 14 February 2010, 20:14:02
In that case the connector wont be there as it was only fitted to mini-facelifts.

Is your car a saloon or estate? Is the donor car a saloon or estate and what year?

The reason these things are important are that the length of cables is different.
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 16 February 2010, 10:08:12
Mines a saloon and the doner car is a saloon.

To be honest, i'd just like the screen to fill the little hole. It'd be a lot easier clipping just that in than re-wiring the car and doing aerials and other stuff.
If anyone asked to turn it on, i'd just say i'd un-plugged it that very morning and hope they never ask again !
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 17 February 2010, 16:47:24
ok, so you will have a little screen there that dosn't actually DO anything and you will be happy with that?
Title: Re: Built In Sat Nav
Post by: kristopha_100 on 17 February 2010, 21:15:59
Well, yeah.

I hate having blanking pieces. Although the screen wouldn't work, it'd sit nicely in the space. This is my first Omega, I had no idea the kind of specs these cars were capable of. Hopefully in time i'll get myself one of these 3.0 Elite's I hear so much about.