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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: v6coop on 05 April 2010, 14:47:15
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Wife has finally succumbed to swapping her existing antique phone for a Nokia E63. Main reason for not doing so before was the CARK-91 hands free kit in the car. So I now need to find and fit a suitable Bluetooth kit to replace it. As a facelift the car has the basic wiring pre-fitted but can anyone recommend a good kit to fit please. I have been looking at Parrot but there may be others as good or better. Don't need anything too fancy as it will be used relatively infrequently but I want sound to go through the head unit (as currently) and mute the radio. I assume I will need a new connection lead too? Has anyone generated a 'how to' guide for this?
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Easiest by Fay is the Bluetooth parrot kit just fits straight on to the is with minimum wiring and just the mic to run a cable for.not trying to sell it but got one here if your intrested,just pm me if you are.but really are easy!
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to replace the cark-91, something like nokia ck-7w bluetooth kit (£20 from egay) is almost 'plug and play' (for bluetooth only). The power cable connector has changed, but same colours, 4 connections. Also need to run the control button.
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Thanks TB
So does this mean I need to replace the control box but otherwise all wiring other than the power cable and controller remains the same? Does the power cable connector come with he kit? If so I assume I can cut the old one off the Autoleads connector and remake the connections?
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Thanks TB
So does this mean I need to replace the control box but otherwise all wiring other than the power cable remains the same? Does the power cable connector come with he kit? If so I assume I can cut the old one off the Autoleads connector and remake the connections?
Yes, just replace control box (replace the power connector on autolead), and run a 'control button'. Also, remove your old cark91 cradle, as cradles not used with bluetooth (may be able to get a popport cradle for new nokia if you want wired connection).
Ensure the new nokia is compatible with ck-7w, not all are.
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Thanks TB
So does this mean I need to replace the control box but otherwise all wiring other than the power cable remains the same? Does the power cable connector come with he kit? If so I assume I can cut the old one off the Autoleads connector and remake the connections?
Yes, just replace control box (replace the power connector on autolead), and run a 'control button'. Also, remove your old cark91 cradle, as cradles not used with bluetooth (may be able to get a popport cradle for new nokia if you want wired connection).
Ensure the new nokia is compatible with ck-7w, not all are.
Not for the E63... But IIRCC it is compatible with CK7 :y
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Thanks,
No mention of compatability with the E63 on the Nokia website (other E series phones are mentioned) so bit of a quandary as to whether or not to go for this.
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Thanks,
No mention of compatability with the E63 on the Nokia website (other E series phones are mentioned) so bit of a quandary as to whether or not to go for this.
I suspect it will be compatible, its generally only older stuff thats not. And for £20 (2nd hand from egay), worth a punt ;)
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The compat issue, if it exists, will be the other party will hear an echo (the carkit user will not hear this)
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Boxed new one has just gone for £43.10 so not exactly a giveaway.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170466187441&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching
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Boxed new one has just gone for £43.10 so not exactly a giveaway.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170466187441&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching
I got one 3 weeks ago, £22 delivered. 2nd hand. All you need to control box, button, and power connector. Use existing mic.
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I got one 3 weeks ago, £22 delivered. 2nd hand. All you need to control box, button, and power connector. Use existing mic.
I am going to fit a Nokia bluetooth kit, are the wires for the mic easy to find ? same with the aerial wire, is it in the drivers side foot well behind the kick plate ? does it connect to the radio to use the cars speakers.
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Boxed new one has just gone for £43.10 so not exactly a giveaway.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170466187441&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching
I got one 3 weeks ago, £22 delivered. 2nd hand. All you need to control box, button, and power connector. Use existing mic.
I'll try and have a rummage in the shed on Wednesday... I may have some bits ::)
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I got one 3 weeks ago, £22 delivered. 2nd hand. All you need to control box, button, and power connector. Use existing mic.
I am going to fit a Nokia bluetooth kit, are the wires for the mic easy to find ? same with the aerial wire, is it in the drivers side foot well behind the kick plate ? does it connect to the radio to use the cars speakers.
(basic) Bluetooth kits don't use the aerial - only the mic/speaker goes over bluetooth, phone itself is the transmitter, using it's aerial.
Not all Omegas have mics, and their are 2 different, incompatible types. Easiest to run a nokia mic up passenger a post, tuck in under headlining to sunroor console, then mount there.
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Can I just jump in here?? (I used to do this for a living....)
E63 is a bit of a strange phone, will work with 80% of all bluetooth kits, but "acts up" with the Parrot kit, will not transfer the caller list from the phone very well, and caller display will only show 50% of the time. The brand new parrot kits have a software update that cures the caller display problem, but not the number list one.
Sorry to hyjack the thread, just didn't want you to spend good money on something before you knew the stakes,
The Nokia CK series kits are probably compatible, but have no display, and require a holder for the phone of some kind on the dashboard.
Cheers,
Mike.
Oh, and NEITHER of them uses an aerial, so you will need to rely on the one in the phone, so it must be relatively visible in the car for a good signal.
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Thanks guys. I decided on the basis of the comments to purchase the Nokia CK-100 in the end. This is £80 from Play.com (and 100% compatible with the phone). I have also purchased a Brodit ProClip phone holder with the charge cable holder. Will let you know how it goes.
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Installed the CK-100 today in place of the CARK-91 that I fitted about 8 years ago. I originally used an Autoleads cable to attach the CARK-91 control box to the pre-wiring in the passenger footwell. Using a 6 pin to 4 pin adaptor (INKA-025-9908 £7.04 incl VAT and postage from mobiland.co.uk) I was able to convert the original Autolead cable to fit the PCU-4 power cable socket in the CK-100 control unit. The Autolead cable takes the audio from the speaker output jack without the need to use the 24 pin control unit ISO cable at all. I used the same Nokia microphone as originally fitted for the CARK-91 positioned by the sunroof control panel.
I also purchased a Brodit phone holder for the Nokia E63 which comes with a power cable holder. As the CK-100 also comes with a 2mm power cable (which fits recent Nokia handsets) I was able to feed this through to the holder to provide power to the E63 whilst the ignition is on. The phone holder fitted onto the original mounting bracket to the side of the aircon/radio panel.
The control button for the CK-100 was fitted just below the MID using the self adhesive velcro pads supplied. The two screws holding the aircon panel in place behind the ashtray were removed along with the headunit and cubby hole to the left which allowed enough movement in the panel to feed the ribbon wire around the edge of the panel and directing the connector down to the footwell.
All in all very happy with the install. The E63 has automatic voice tagging for all address book entries which can be 'dialled' by voice by depressing the control button for two seconds. Likewise incoming calls can be answered by pressing the button with volume contrllable by rotating the button. Connection is automatic to a paired phone once the ignition is switched on. Audio quality is excelent in car and for callers I am told is better than the CARK-91.
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