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Title: broadband speed
Post by: psl on 16 February 2008, 17:40:48
just been sent this broad band speed test, it's nice and easy to read.


http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: sir moanalot on 16 February 2008, 17:43:01
thats the best tester ive come across yet !!!
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: psl on 16 February 2008, 17:44:22
thats what I thought :y
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Tab on 16 February 2008, 17:45:04
mine was..

download speed= 2078kbps

upload speed= 246kbps

i don't know if that's good tbh, i'm not that technically minded ;D
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2008, 17:48:16
Attempt 1st 2nd 3rd
Download speed (kbps)    545 307 341
Upload speed (kbps) 368 367 365


Which is quite frankly pants!

The reason why......crap NTL server which we were moved onto after virgin were taken over by them!
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 16 February 2008, 17:52:53
download 2069 upload 246...iz that good or bad???? :-/
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: haj on 16 February 2008, 18:10:02
Down 1010

Up  234

As asked how do you know whether it is good/bad
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2008, 18:11:48
It depends what speed you pay for.

I pay for an 8M connection which, according to my router I have, but thanks to a naff ex-NTL server, I dont get any where near that download speed.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: zirk on 16 February 2008, 18:15:30
3768 Kbs, thats not bad for a Vodafone Datacard.

The site is a free web version of www.Speedtest.net you can host it for free on your own web site, might be a idea for OOF.

zirk
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: psl on 16 February 2008, 18:22:30


3940 kbps down

245 kbps up
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: HerefordElite on 16 February 2008, 18:23:48
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3768 Kbs, thats not bad for a Vodafone Datacard.

The site is a free web version of www.Speedtest.net you can host it for free on your own web site, might be a idea for OOF.

zirk

so it is, been using that one for ages :y

managed 3390kbps download & 360kbps upload tonight

ok but not great considering we still get charged for "up to" 8mb >:(
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: zirk on 16 February 2008, 18:28:33
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3768 Kbs, thats not bad for a Vodafone Datacard.

The site is a free web version of www.Speedtest.net you can host it for free on your own web site, might be a idea for OOF.

zirk

so it is, been using that one for ages :y

managed 3390kbps download & 360kbps upload tonight

ok but not great considering we still get charged for "up to" 8mb >:(

True, the 7.5 Mb is mainly in Central London and Airports, but should be rolled out in High Population Areas latter this year.

Still not bad for £15 a month though.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: HerefordElite on 16 February 2008, 18:32:54
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3768 Kbs, thats not bad for a Vodafone Datacard.

The site is a free web version of www.Speedtest.net you can host it for free on your own web site, might be a idea for OOF.

zirk

so it is, been using that one for ages :y

managed 3390kbps download & 360kbps upload tonight

ok but not great considering we still get charged for "up to" 8mb >:(

True, the 7.5 Mb is mainly in Central London and Airports, but should be rolled out in High Population Areas latter this year.

Still not bad for £15 a month though.

true but my BT home hub manager still says i'm getting 4400kbps
not like Bt to lie ;)
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2008, 18:36:09
Remember, you pay for the bandwidth of the pipe (i.e. 8mb), at no point do they commit to actualy send 8mb down said pipe....
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Del Boy on 16 February 2008, 18:39:11
Down: 5986
Up: 989
Not bad with BT 8MB connection
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: mantahatch on 16 February 2008, 18:42:17
Hi
I pay 14.99 per month for up to 8mb speeds, did 3 tests the results are:
5419kbps download 365kbps upload
5415kbps download 325kbps upload
5393kbps download 365kbps upload

Think I am reasonably happy with that.

Mike
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: zirk on 16 February 2008, 18:42:21
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Remember, you pay for the bandwidth of the pipe (i.e. 8mb), at no point do they commit to actualy send 8mb down said pipe....

Yea, but the Vodafone Broadband Signal comes through the window! from the nearest Radio Site, so if they tell you its XYZ Mbps then it should be XYZ.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: HerefordElite on 16 February 2008, 19:22:46
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Down: 5986
Up: 989
Not bad with BT 8MB connection

yes very good :y
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Crazydad on 16 February 2008, 19:27:58
Down 6076
up  546

i pay for the 6mb connection, so i am very happy :D :D
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2008, 20:42:54
I can't get either of my lines quiet enough to do a meaningful test.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: STMO123 on 16 February 2008, 20:49:18
BT 8Mb

5893 Download    387 Upload
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Crazydad on 16 February 2008, 21:08:42
wow thats moving a bit for an old man like you ::) ::)
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: STMO123 on 16 February 2008, 21:09:24
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wow thats moving a bit for an old man like you ::) ::)

You wanna see my download speed on the bog ;)
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Crazydad on 16 February 2008, 21:10:55
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wow thats moving a bit for an old man like you ::) ::)

You wanna see my download speed on the bog ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y

Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 February 2008, 21:18:59
Virgin 8mb

Download 583 :o

Up            362


Can't wait till April till I can change
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: STMO123 on 16 February 2008, 21:33:30
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Virgin 8mb

Download 583 :o

Up            362


Can't wait till April till I can change

I knew you were slow posting but I thought that was just because you were a bit backward ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 February 2008, 21:57:04
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Virgin 8mb

Download 583 :o

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Can't wait till April till I can change

I knew you were slow posting but I thought that was just because you were a bit backward ;D ;D ;D
A lot ;)
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: STMO123 on 16 February 2008, 21:58:47
9:33 STMO Wrote

9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 February 2008, 22:01:17
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9:33 STMO Wrote

9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Getting too heavy for you is it Grandad, get the nice nurse lady to help you. ;D
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: STMO123 on 16 February 2008, 22:03:19
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9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Getting too heavy for you is it Grandad, get the nice nurse lady to help you. ;D

Keep up John, keep up
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 February 2008, 22:04:36
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9:33 STMO Wrote

9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Getting too heavy for you is it Grandad, get the nice nurse lady to help you. ;D

Keep up John, keep up
Have they given you your Horlicks and mogadon yet?
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: STMO123 on 16 February 2008, 22:09:52
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9:33 STMO Wrote

9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Getting too heavy for you is it Grandad, get the nice nurse lady to help you. ;D

Keep up John, keep up
Have they given you your Horlicks and mogadon yet?

It's Saturday! Guinness and viagra night.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 February 2008, 22:14:16
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9:33 STMO Wrote

9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Getting too heavy for you is it Grandad, get the nice nurse lady to help you. ;D

Keep up John, keep up
Have they given you your Horlicks and mogadon yet?

It's Saturday! Guinness and viagra night.
That'll be to stop you rolling out of bed then. ;D ;D
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: STMO123 on 16 February 2008, 22:16:08
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9:33 STMO Wrote

9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Getting too heavy for you is it Grandad, get the nice nurse lady to help you. ;D

Keep up John, keep up
Have they given you your Horlicks and mogadon yet?

It's Saturday! Guinness and viagra night.
That'll be to stop you rolling out of bed then. ;D ;D

My cot has sides :y
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 February 2008, 22:32:29
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9:33 STMO Wrote

9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Getting too heavy for you is it Grandad, get the nice nurse lady to help you. ;D

Keep up John, keep up
Have they given you your Horlicks and mogadon yet?

It's Saturday! Guinness and viagra night.
That'll be to stop you rolling out of bed then. ;D ;D

My cot has sides :y
So you can throw your teddy out I assume.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Crazydad on 16 February 2008, 22:41:56
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9:33 STMO Wrote

9:57 Elite Pete wrote

I rest my case. ;D
Getting too heavy for you is it Grandad, get the nice nurse lady to help you. ;D

Keep up John, keep up
Have they given you your Horlicks and mogadon yet?

It's Saturday! Guinness and viagra night.
That'll be to stop you rolling out of bed then. ;D ;D

My cot has sides :y
So you can throw your teddy out I assume.
LMAO :y :y :y
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: dbug on 16 February 2008, 23:20:01
Try http://www.speedtester.bt.com/
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: dbug on 16 February 2008, 23:22:05
. . . . or http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html

 :y
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Ken T on 16 February 2008, 23:39:24
OH dear,
the first test gave 607K/152K, the BT test gives an error(surprise!), and the last one gives 411K/78K. This is, err, cr*p. Its has got a lot worse recently, is this due to BT home hub and BBC replay stuff soaking up available bandwidth ?

Ken
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 February 2008, 07:38:51
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Remember, you pay for the bandwidth of the pipe (i.e. 8mb), at no point do they commit to actualy send 8mb down said pipe....

Yea, but the Vodafone Broadband Signal comes through the window! from the nearest Radio Site, so if they tell you its XYZ Mbps then it should be XYZ.

Makes no odds, the radio setups do much the same as wifi, they back the speed off as the signal quality drops (BER rises).
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 February 2008, 07:40:27
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OH dear,
the first test gave 607K/152K, the BT test gives an error(surprise!), and the last one gives 411K/78K. This is, err, cr*p. Its has got a lot worse recently, is this due to BT home hub and BBC replay stuff soaking up available bandwidth ?

Ken

Quite possibly although in theory video on demand can be sent without a massive server over head as the actual amount of requests once its running tends to be pretty small.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Dave-C on 17 February 2008, 10:10:02
1.1km from tel ex,

BT 6.7m down 876k up..

Pretty pleased with that... 8-)

Sometimes though, being a Max product, i.e. rate adaptive... have had less than 1m down!!!!!!!! :'(
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: x25xe on 17 February 2008, 10:18:55
Here are my results (I am on a 2Mb service from Nildram)

Download Speed: 1922 kbps (240.3 KB/sec )   Upload Speed: 244 kbps (30.5 KB/sec )

Quite happy with that.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: sluggi on 19 February 2008, 00:15:10
Hi,

19386 Download
743     Upload

On 20Mb virgin connection :y
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: zirk on 19 February 2008, 01:46:16
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Remember, you pay for the bandwidth of the pipe (i.e. 8mb), at no point do they commit to actualy send 8mb down said pipe....

Yea, but the Vodafone Broadband Signal comes through the window! from the nearest Radio Site, so if they tell you its XYZ Mbps then it should be XYZ.

Makes no odds, the radio setups do much the same as wifi, they back the speed off as the signal quality drops (BER rises).

No, sorry disagree, The whole idea of, when it was lanched GPRS (2.5G, 56kbps) was it was a Radio signal version of ISDN, so you ever get it or not. when 3G was lanched (384kbps) it was on a different carrier signal, so again you get it or you revert back to 2.5G (56kbps). Now we have 3.5G (HSDPA) which is a compressed version of 3G but still on a different carrier (Vodafone currently run a Max of 7.2Mbps) but its still Radio ISDN (although they call it Broadband), the point is, that thier advartising 7.2 Mbps but only supplying 3.5 Mbps, if the signal is crap it will revert back to a lower carrier of 3g or worse case gprs (2.5G).

Unlike WiFi which sets its speed on error bit checking which it feels comfortable with.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 February 2008, 09:21:50
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Remember, you pay for the bandwidth of the pipe (i.e. 8mb), at no point do they commit to actualy send 8mb down said pipe....

Yea, but the Vodafone Broadband Signal comes through the window! from the nearest Radio Site, so if they tell you its XYZ Mbps then it should be XYZ.

Makes no odds, the radio setups do much the same as wifi, they back the speed off as the signal quality drops (BER rises).

No, sorry disagree, The whole idea of, when it was lanched GPRS (2.5G, 56kbps) was it was a Radio signal version of ISDN, so you ever get it or not. when 3G was lanched (384kbps) it was on a different carrier signal, so again you get it or you revert back to 2.5G (56kbps). Now we have 3.5G (HSDPA) which is a compressed version of 3G but still on a different carrier (Vodafone currently run a Max of 7.2Mbps) but its still Radio ISDN (although they call it Broadband), the point is, that thier advartising 7.2 Mbps but only supplying 3.5 Mbps, if the signal is crap it will revert back to a lower carrier of 3g or worse case gprs (2.5G).

Unlike WiFi which sets its speed on error bit checking which it feels comfortable with.

In all of these scenarios the connection the mobile network provides is packet switched rather than circuit switched so the analogy with ISDN is not quite accurate.

The network is contended and, whilst the network will negotiate a quality of service with you when you establish a session it doesn't allocate any resources to you for the duration of that session, so you are still competing with other users for the bandwidth available to the mobile network. The mobile network is responsible for allocating those resources dynamically and it will do so based on the amount of data queued and the quality of service to which a user is subscribed.

If you encounter bad signal conditions there is no alternative but to back off the bandwidth in order to provide a continued connection and this is achieved not necessarily by dropping back to a different technology but switching to a more robust form of channel coding that adds redundancy and therefore reduces the throughput.

In short, the situation with a mobile "broadband" conenction is just the same as with wired. You are being sold a theoretical throughput and are getting a practical throughput that will be somewhere between zero and the theoretical throughput.

Kevin


Edited to say: Of course, you can have a circuit switched conenction over a mobile network but 99% of internet access through mobile networks is packet switched.
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 February 2008, 09:29:53
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Remember, you pay for the bandwidth of the pipe (i.e. 8mb), at no point do they commit to actualy send 8mb down said pipe....

Yea, but the Vodafone Broadband Signal comes through the window! from the nearest Radio Site, so if they tell you its XYZ Mbps then it should be XYZ.

Makes no odds, the radio setups do much the same as wifi, they back the speed off as the signal quality drops (BER rises).

No, sorry disagree, The whole idea of, when it was lanched GPRS (2.5G, 56kbps) was it was a Radio signal version of ISDN, so you ever get it or not. when 3G was lanched (384kbps) it was on a different carrier signal, so again you get it or you revert back to 2.5G (56kbps). Now we have 3.5G (HSDPA) which is a compressed version of 3G but still on a different carrier (Vodafone currently run a Max of 7.2Mbps) but its still Radio ISDN (although they call it Broadband), the point is, that thier advartising 7.2 Mbps but only supplying 3.5 Mbps, if the signal is crap it will revert back to a lower carrier of 3g or worse case gprs (2.5G).

Unlike WiFi which sets its speed on error bit checking which it feels comfortable with.

In all of these scenarios the connection the mobile network provides is packet switched rather than circuit switched so the analogy with ISDN is not quite accurate.

The network is contended and, whilst the network will negotiate a quality of service with you when you establish a session it doesn't allocate any resources to you for the duration of that session, so you are still competing with other users for the bandwidth available to the mobile network. The mobile network is responsible for allocating those resources dynamically and it will do so based on the amount of data queued and the quality of service to which a user is subscribed.

If you encounter bad signal conditions there is no alternative but to back off the bandwidth in order to provide a continued connection and this is achieved not necessarily by dropping back to a different technology but switching to a more robust form of channel coding that adds redundancy and therefore reduces the throughput.

In short, the situation with a mobile "broadband" conenction is just the same as with wired. You are being sold a theoretical throughput and are getting a practical throughput that will be somewhere between zero and the theoretical throughput.

Kevin


Edited to say: Of course, you can have a circuit switched conenction over a mobile network but 99% of internet access through mobile networks is packet switched.

Correct.....and the 3G setups in the uk to date are mostly packet based (although not all as it is dependent on what local services are available at the pole!).

You would also be surprised at how small the back haul link is that is provided to the base stations, were not talking Gb's so its quickly eaten into by mobile based broadband.


And then you still have the usual server based bottle neck (which its often the over riding factor)

And, the base station will back your link off, particularly if there are other subscribers of similar priority all contending for bandwidth off the same mast!
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: hotel21 on 19 February 2008, 09:36:58
Just ran this test with a Vrigin 20 meg connection.

19696 download with a 683 upload.

Seems quite nippy, does that....   :y
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: CyNick on 19 February 2008, 12:43:21
6323 down
234 up
37ms ping to maidenhead

well happy with this from orange home  :y
Title: Re: broadband speed
Post by: mantagte on 19 February 2008, 14:42:44
2415 download
381 upload
2mb from orange