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Title: rear light wiring
Post by: russ b on 07 July 2010, 22:17:35
hi have brought some led strips to supplement the indicators and brakes inside the rear light clusters, i know there is going to be lots of critism for adapting in this manner..my car i like it.
i need help in connecting the supply. the strips have know been fitted (a lot of aggro)and i have two wires + & - and only one wire on the loom for each bulb. i believe black and green for right indicator and black and yellow for brake lights. i have tried connected both wires together on the strips and connecting to correct colour but i was wrong..i imagine straight forward enough for those in the know.
roll on the critics ::) ::) 
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Dave DND on 07 July 2010, 22:44:03
Are you trying to get these to come on with indicators or brakes - need some form of diode arrangement if answer is both.

Is this not going to upset any bulb monitoring circuits?
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: same #same# on 08 July 2010, 01:16:20
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Are you trying to get these to come on with indicators or brakes - need some form of diode arrangement if answer is both.

Is this not going to upset any bulb monitoring circuits?
as dave says ^^^ 4-5 leds can work off one diode in line, but you would of just been better off getting the led bulds that just fit in the sockets. and dont set the display off saying there is a fault...
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Simon72 on 09 July 2010, 18:38:07
Another thing to consider is that the light output may not be correct for the MOT test, and they will not be classed as 'E' marked.

I presume you are removing the original Bulbs and just using the LED strips?

Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: russ b on 09 July 2010, 20:57:31
i am attempting to use led as supplement to bulb so would imagine mot no problem, but firstly i need to connect them.. i dont know what a diode is sorry.
i hard wired towbar electrics into loom along back and had no problems so assumed that adding these strips would be along same principle, don;t know how they where done on car i saw it was at a show and looked fantastic be a shame if not completed i love to do subtle differences that arent popular
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Andy B on 09 July 2010, 21:06:24
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i dont know what a diode is sorry. .....

Think none return valve for electronics  ;)  ;)  ;) A normal lamp doesn't care which way the 12 volt positive & negative goes, but a diode does ie if  you get them back to front, the lamp doesn't light up.  :y
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Agemo on 09 July 2010, 21:18:30
Not sure how many LEDs you have, but I have retrofitted LED high level brake lights to Omegas, and it never threw up a fault. As for the wiring, I just traced a wire from the light cluster & branched into it.
 ::)
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: russ b on 09 July 2010, 22:32:27
thats exactly what im trying to do :y
the problem as far as i can tell is that the led strip has a negative and positive wires where as the feed at the rear light is only one wire??? :(
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Andy B on 09 July 2010, 22:47:06
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.... where as the feed at the rear light is only one wire??? :(

the return negative is shared with all the other lamps in the custer  :-?
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: russ b on 09 July 2010, 22:55:23
forgive me for being dumb :D
basically if i connect the positive wire to the coloured feed wire and the negative wire to wherever this shared return is i should have sexy lighting 8-)
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Entwood on 09 July 2010, 23:02:41
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forgive me for being dumb :D
basically if i connect the positive wire to the coloured feed wire and the negative wire to wherever this shared return is i should have sexy lighting 8-)


No  .. you'll have horrible but working LED's ..   :)
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Andy B on 09 July 2010, 23:04:53
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and the negative wire to wherever this shared return is i ......

The whole body is the negative ie the car is 'negative earth', just look at the 'earth' cable connected to your battery, one end is to the -ve & t'other is bolted to the car body.
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: tunnie on 09 July 2010, 23:08:17
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forgive me for being dumb :D
basically if i connect the positive wire to the coloured feed wire and the negative wire to wherever this shared return is i should have sexy lighting 8-)

Errr no you won't!

On an old barge like the Omega these LED chav-me bulbs stand out a mile and just scream the fact your questioning your sexuality.
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: russ b on 09 July 2010, 23:08:40
give that a try in morning see how i get on thanks for the help, hopefully my horrible sexy leds will be shining bright tommorrow night 8-)
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Andy B on 09 July 2010, 23:10:13
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forgive me for being dumb :D
basically if i connect the positive wire to the coloured feed wire and the negative wire to wherever this shared return is i should have sexy lighting 8-)

Errr no you won't!

On an old barge like the Omega these LED chav-me bulbs stand out a mile and just scream the fact your questioning your sexuality.

The Catera lighting looks good   ;) ;)
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: tunnie on 09 July 2010, 23:12:19
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forgive me for being dumb :D
basically if i connect the positive wire to the coloured feed wire and the negative wire to wherever this shared return is i should have sexy lighting 8-)

Errr no you won't!

On an old barge like the Omega these LED chav-me bulbs stand out a mile and just scream the fact your questioning your sexuality.

The Catera lighting looks good   ;) ;)

But they are not 'strips' retro fitted to clusters 
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: russ b on 09 July 2010, 23:17:34
just google searched the catera and i agree they look good, missing the point if you think im trying to look chav, i like vehicles which look mostly standard but have very subtle details i also don't like clusters where the brake/tail are the same bulb i would prefer some better distinction between them, anyway expecting different views thats ok just need someone who knows there cars to assist many thanks :y
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Andy B on 09 July 2010, 23:20:52
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 i also don't like clusters where the brake/tail are the same bulb i would prefer some better distinction between them ......

I agree. Given the amount of space car  manufactures have at the back of a car I think that seperate lamps do help when you are the car behind.
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: russ b on 10 July 2010, 21:10:06
followed your advice andy and lights working fine, thanks for the help :y
the appearance is very subtle tbh it basically gives a much more distinction between brake and tail light making me feel safer. they are inside the cluster with bulb so off course only noticable when brakes are applied and not to "chavme" the rest of the car is standard barge which i love so hopefully can avoid the corsa stereotype ::)
Title: Re: rear light wiring
Post by: Andy B on 10 July 2010, 21:16:57
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followed your advice andy and lights working fine, thanks for the help :y
the appearance is very subtle tbh it basically gives a much more distinction between brake and tail light making me feel safer. they are inside the cluster with bulb so off course only noticable when brakes are applied and not to "chavme" the rest of the car is standard barge which i love so hopefully can avoid the corsa stereotype ::)

Any photo's  ::)  ::)  ;)