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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: DodgeyDave on 15 September 2010, 23:51:51

Title: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: DodgeyDave on 15 September 2010, 23:51:51
I've come accross a brand new CCRT 2008 still new in the box and i want to put it in my 03 plate CDX which currently has a dodgey CCR2006 in it.

I know it's probably not gonna be a straight forward swap and i will need a new display but does anyone know what else will be involved such as new wiring for the phone system etc.
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 September 2010, 11:20:20
Phone system is in the headunit.

Some sort of aerial requried, display as you say.

easily do able with a bit of wiring know how
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: DodgeyDave on 16 September 2010, 11:46:40
I read somewhere that the stubby ariel on the roof was for the phone, is this not the case?
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 September 2010, 12:44:14
Yep, might need a bit of loom to extend it from the footwell or behind the glove box to the radio
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: TheBoy on 16 September 2010, 21:30:36
I seem to recall some of the wiring needs modifying (use a TM loom rather than bugger up car loom), and *may* need mic running (assuming you want to use the phone).

The display isn't overly common.
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: DodgeyDave on 17 September 2010, 00:13:46
I've managed to source a new display too, eBay can be a wonderful thing, I just hope it all works.

This sort of thing never works out as easily as you plan though.
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2010, 10:23:24
OK, so the display should just go straight in, no need to worry about loom mods.

The headunit, from memory, needs a bit of loom tweaking. Too difficult to get in at the cars loom and do a good job, so get a 36way full Traffic Master loom to make the mods on
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: DodgeyDave on 17 September 2010, 14:23:21
Ok, thanks for the replies, I take it that the extra wiring is for the ariel (behind glove box) and microphone (in the light) for the phone system?
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2010, 14:27:21
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Ok, thanks for the replies, I take it that the extra wiring is for the ariel (behind glove box) and microphone (in the light) for the phone system?
I haven't got wiring schms to hand, but seem to recall the pin assignment on the 2008 is slightly different to 2006.

The cellular aerial probably ends in the drivers kick panel.
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: DodgeyDave on 17 September 2010, 15:10:07
 Found this on another VX forum

http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?188131-2001-facelift-omega-stereo-fault

Would this be the right wiring diagram for the 2008??

Does anyone have one for the CCR 2006 and i should be able to match everything up.

      
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2010, 15:24:03
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Found this on another VX forum

http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/showthread.php?188131-2001-facelift-omega-stereo-fault

Would this be the right wiring diagram for the 2008??

Does anyone have one for the CCR 2006 and i should be able to match everything up.

      
Thats a well known pinout available on the web that looks like its been printed and rescanned. However, its incorrect (in that the pin numbers are incorrect).


I have the wiring schms for both the 2006 and 2008 (with the GM way of numbering the pins!), but cannot access them at the moment.
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: DodgeyDave on 17 September 2010, 16:16:42
OK, I'll bin that diagram then.

I've had a quick look under both footwells for the cellular ariel wire but nothing is jumping out at me. Any idea what colour it would be and could it be in behind the stereo? (I haven't been able to take the stereo out as the removal keys haven't arrived yet).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: TheBoy on 17 September 2010, 19:16:36
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OK, I'll bin that diagram then.

I've had a quick look under both footwells for the cellular ariel wire but nothing is jumping out at me. Any idea what colour it would be and could it be in behind the stereo? (I haven't been able to take the stereo out as the removal keys haven't arrived yet).

Thanks.
Aerial is Kick panel, drivers side. Standard cellular coax connection, black (radio aerial goes through there, grey). Normally coiled in from of the alarm ecu
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: DodgeyDave on 18 September 2010, 02:57:27
Thanks for all the replies, it should help a lot. :y
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: TheBoy on 18 September 2010, 12:18:54
Sorry, still struggling to pdf the wiring diagrams.  Flakey software + Windows 7 = grey hair!
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: zirk on 18 September 2010, 13:28:26
I'd also be interested in any wiring details you have TB, got a couple of 2008's collecting dust on the top shelf.

Chris.  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Swap CCR 2006 for CCRT 2008
Post by: DodgeyDave on 19 September 2010, 05:49:32
It's ok, the car's just about drivable without it. I really appreciate all the help.