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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Osprey on 08 September 2010, 16:06:46
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The boot release button on my facelift centre console doesn’t work. It’s backlight comes on with the rest of the switches and the red LED comes on when the boot is open, but pressing the button does nothing.
The boot release works fine from the key fob, so I am assuming the wiring to the boot latch is OK.
I have popped the button out and checked that a good connection is made between two of the pins when the button is pressed (presumably the correct two pins :) ).
So my question is where does the wiring go from the switch, so I can check continuity?
Is this a common problem with a well known fix, or is it on a fuse?
Thanks
(Oh, and yes, I have taken the key out of the ignition!)
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Just to be sure. do you press and hold the button a few seconds?
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Oops :-[ – no, I didn’t press and hold, but I do now and the boot opens just fine. So thanks zvi, problem solved. :)
In fact the boot even opens even if the key is in the ignition, the engine is running and the car is in gear and moving forward. I didn’t think this was supposed to happen but it’s no problem.
I just checked the Owner’s Manual and all it says is “Press the button on the instrument panel” – no mention of press and hold.
Still one good thing is that I sorted out the ashtray, which was naff, horrible and broken. Now it’s back to being just naff and horrible!
Thanks again!
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I sorted out the ashtray, which was naff, horrible and broken
Hey there, could I ask how you fixed your ash tray? Mine also seems to be broken as I need to pry it out with both my hands, pushing it to open doesn't work.
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Hi Shimmy
Sounds as if mine had a different problem from yours, so I don’t know if this will be much use to you.
Mine was loose and floppy and didn’t close flush. The fag lighter part wasn’t attached and didn’t work electrically, and the light didn’t come on when the ashtray was opened. This is what I did:
Push on the little indentation in the centre of the cover and let the ashtray spring open. (Sounds like even that part doesn’t work for you.) Remove the ashtray insert as if you were emptying it by pulling the small catch to the right and lifting the insert out – see page 76 (the 78th page in the PDF) of the Owner’s Manual here http://images.omegaowners.com/documents/UserGuides/OmegaOct2002.pdf.
Look behind the ashtray (use a torch) and undo the single Phillips number 1 screw that you will see right in the middle. The two screws that are easier to see (one at each side) are nothing to do with the ashtray. The entire assembly them slides out easily. Pictures of this are here: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152745540
I just cleaned things up a little, pushed the fag lighter socket back into its pivots and checked the wiring for continuity. It turns out that the only problem with the electrics was that the connector on the back of the ashtray hadn’t been properly aligned with its other half on the car. This meant there was no electrical connection, and that the assembly wasn’t seated correctly hence was flapping around loose. A little care with lining things up and the single fixing screw could be tightened fully home, allowing everything to work OK.
The latch mechanism is a bit of flimsy plastic like you would find in a ballpoint pen. I guess if this is broken, you would be best off picking up a complete ashtray from a scrappy.
Hope this helps.
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Oops :-[ – no, I didn’t press and hold, but I do now and the boot opens just fine. So thanks zvi, problem solved. :)
In fact the boot even opens even if the key is in the ignition, the engine is running and the car is in gear and moving forward. I didn’t think this was supposed to happen but it’s no problem.
I just checked the Owner’s Manual and all it says is “Press the button on the instrument panel” – no mention of press and hold.
Still one good thing is that I sorted out the ashtray, which was naff, horrible and broken. Now it’s back to being just naff and horrible!
Thanks again!
Sounds like yours has been modded have a look here
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1155211091
:y :y
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Interesting - I'll have a butcher's some time.
Thanks! :y
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Thanks Osprey, I'll have a fiddle at a later date. :)
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Thanks Osprey, I'll have a fiddle later :)
Bit forthcoming ;D
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Bit forthcoming ;D
I was waiting for that! ;D
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Up to 2001, need key out, then a quick press to open.
Post 2001, needs a press and hold for 3s, irrespective of key in or out
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Thanks TB - now I understand why you get the big bucks ;D
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Up to 2001, need key out, then a quick press to open.
Post 2001, needs a press and hold for 3s, irrespective of key in or out
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That explains why mine worked today then, first time that I was in a situarion to try it... :D :D :D
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Up to 2001, need key out, then a quick press to open.
Post 2001, needs a press and hold for 3s, irrespective of key in or out
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That explains why mine worked today then, first time that I was in a situarion to try it... :D :D :D
my mate had one of those mitsu jap jobs ::)
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Up to 2001, need key out, then a quick press to open.
Post 2001, needs a press and hold for 3s, irrespective of key in or out
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That explains why mine worked today then, first time that I was in a situarion to try it... :D :D :D
my mate had one of those mitsu jap jobs ::)
Well the keys are next to each other...... :-[ :D :P
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Up to 2001, need key out, then a quick press to open.
Post 2001, needs a press and hold for 3s, irrespective of key in or out
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That explains why mine worked today then, first time that I was in a situarion to try it... :D :D :D
my mate had one of those mitsu jap jobs ::)
Well the keys are next to each other...... :-[ :D :P
in a pot by any chance?
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Thanks TB - now I understand why you get the big bucks ;D
He asked you not to spread that around!
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OK - his secret's safe with us :)
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Oops :-[ – no, I didn’t press and hold, but I do now and the boot opens just fine. So thanks zvi, problem solved. :)
In fact the boot even opens even if the key is in the ignition, the engine is running and the car is in gear and moving forward. I didn’t think this was supposed to happen but it’s no problem.
I just checked the Owner’s Manual and all it says is “Press the button on the instrument panel” – no mention of press and hold.
Still one good thing is that I sorted out the ashtray, which was naff, horrible and broken. Now it’s back to being just naff and horrible!
Thanks again!
Sounds like yours has been modded have a look here
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1155211091
:y :y
I'm a little confused (yes, nothing new!)
Mine is a Jan '01, and the boot won't open with the key in as described by the OP. However, I tried the push & hold with the key in, and that doesn't work.
So any idea when the change in F/L occured, as mine don't seem to fit either description!
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Oops :-[ – no, I didn’t press and hold, but I do now and the boot opens just fine. So thanks zvi, problem solved. :)
In fact the boot even opens even if the key is in the ignition, the engine is running and the car is in gear and moving forward. I didn’t think this was supposed to happen but it’s no problem.
I just checked the Owner’s Manual and all it says is “Press the button on the instrument panel” – no mention of press and hold.
Still one good thing is that I sorted out the ashtray, which was naff, horrible and broken. Now it’s back to being just naff and horrible!
Thanks again!
Sounds like yours has been modded have a look here
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1155211091
:y :y
I'm a little confused (yes, nothing new!)
Mine is a Jan '01, and the boot won't open with the key in as described by the OP. However, I tried the push & hold with the key in, and that doesn't work.
So any idea when the change in F/L occured, as mine don't seem to fit either description!
Re: Centre console boot release
Reply #10 - 09. Sep 2010 at 19:34 Up to 2001, need key out, then a quick press to open.
Post 2001, needs a press and hold for 3s, irrespective of key in or out
If yours is a 2001 it probably fits into the first selection key out and press button for a few seconds unless you do the wiring mod :y
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Oops :-[ – no, I didn’t press and hold, but I do now and the boot opens just fine. So thanks zvi, problem solved. :)
In fact the boot even opens even if the key is in the ignition, the engine is running and the car is in gear and moving forward. I didn’t think this was supposed to happen but it’s no problem.
I just checked the Owner’s Manual and all it says is “Press the button on the instrument panel” – no mention of press and hold.
Still one good thing is that I sorted out the ashtray, which was naff, horrible and broken. Now it’s back to being just naff and horrible!
Thanks again!
Sounds like yours has been modded have a look here
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1155211091
:y :y
I'm a little confused (yes, nothing new!)
Mine is a Jan '01, and the boot won't open with the key in as described by the OP. However, I tried the push & hold with the key in, and that doesn't work.
So any idea when the change in F/L occured, as mine don't seem to fit either description!
Re: Centre console boot release
Reply #10 - 09. Sep 2010 at 19:34 Up to 2001, need key out, then a quick press to open.
Post 2001, needs a press and hold for 3s, irrespective of key in or out
If yours is a 2001 it probably fits into the first selection key out and press button for a few seconds unless you do the wiring mod :y
Isn't that a contradiction? But yes, it's the first one, didn't see that in the thread
I like the idea of the mod, but not the chances of accidental opening. Anybody know how the delay on the later models works? Would be nice to make that a mod for pre-2001, so you get open works with key in/engine on, but needs long press, like the later ones. Could save dumping yr load all over the road which I guess is what Vx were going for!
Alternatively if not, I may look into a way of fitting a delay to the button, and then add that to the mod above, for early model safety
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Oops :-[ – no, I didn’t press and hold, but I do now and the boot opens just fine. So thanks zvi, problem solved. :)
In fact the boot even opens even if the key is in the ignition, the engine is running and the car is in gear and moving forward. I didn’t think this was supposed to happen but it’s no problem.
I just checked the Owner’s Manual and all it says is “Press the button on the instrument panel” – no mention of press and hold.
Still one good thing is that I sorted out the ashtray, which was naff, horrible and broken. Now it’s back to being just naff and horrible!
Thanks again!
Sounds like yours has been modded have a look here
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1155211091
:y :y
I'm a little confused (yes, nothing new!)
Mine is a Jan '01, and the boot won't open with the key in as described by the OP. However, I tried the push & hold with the key in, and that doesn't work.
So any idea when the change in F/L occured, as mine don't seem to fit either description!
Re: Centre console boot release
Reply #10 - 09. Sep 2010 at 19:34 Up to 2001, need key out, then a quick press to open.
Post 2001, needs a press and hold for 3s, irrespective of key in or out
If yours is a 2001 it probably fits into the first selection key out and press button for a few seconds unless you do the wiring mod :y
Isn't that a contradiction? But yes, it's the first one, didn't see that in the thread
I like the idea of the mod, but not the chances of accidental opening. Anybody know how the delay on the later models works? Would be nice to make that a mod for pre-2001, so you get open works with key in/engine on, but needs long press, like the later ones. Could save dumping yr load all over the road which I guess is what Vx were going for!
Alternatively if not, I may look into a way of fitting a delay to the button, and then add that to the mod above, for early model safety
Just beacause your car is registered in 2001 as is mine, doesn't mean thats when it was made might be a 2000.
As regards the wiring mod i know some members have used the trafficmaster switch (depending on if you still use it) as an extra safety on it.Something to do with open and closed circuit and needing this to be pressed to complete it. Not that good with electrics so ask about.
HTH Dave :y
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Good idea, if I hadn't given mine away to someone on here :-[
That's a really simple idea tho, just route one of the boot button cables through the tm switch, so it breaks the circuit, thus you have to hold the tm button down then press the boot button.
Tbf, you could use any spare button (if you have any blanks), or mount a button/switch anywhere.
Having said that, if you're gonna do 2 things to open the boot, you may as well take the key out then press the button anyway!