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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: skinwiz on 06 February 2011, 23:49:21
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hi guy's , does anyone know who makes aftermarket speakers that fit into the original locations with no mods ? my drivers side tweeter has been playing up for a while and i'm thinking of just upgrading the pair as i've treated myself to an alpine x305 head unit :D and i'm really noticing the difference in sound more than ever now . i know i can compensate using alpines expensive little box of tricks but i'd rather just get new tweets :).
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Errr, does the car have Bose in it (as it's an Elite)?
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yup , bose , i was led to believe that the tweeters aren't bose though ? apparently they left the standard tweets in someone once told me , ive had them off but cant see a makers mark , if i have to i'll just
liberate purchase one from a scrappers but would be nice to upgrade them lol
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If it's Bose the rest of the speaker system will be 2 ohm so the tweeters will have to match this. Most aftermarket tweeters will be suited to a 4 ohm system so you will have less output from them in a Bose setup. In addition, they'll probably need a crossover whereas the original tweeters had a (crude) crossover (ok, just a series capacitor!) built-in.
As you have an aftermarket head unit you would be wise to remove all the Bose stuff and replace it with decent aftermarket components, to be honest, as the Bose amp can't be driven from the speaker outputs of an aftermarket head unit.
When I fitted my Rainbow tweeters I just removed the outer ring from the original tweeters and glued it onto the new ones so they slot in exactly where the old ones came out.
Kevin
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thanks kevin :y i'd love to replace the whole system but thats got to go on the back burner at the moment as i'm looking into another omega related enterprise ( think i might be getting the car bug lol ) ,
wasn't aware of the 2ohm issue either so thats going to be a big help , i always thought car speakers etc ran on 4 , so 2ohm tweets with a little OE added to it ,followed in a year or so by a complete replacement . is it a difficult job to junk the BOSE stuff ? :-?
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thanks kevin :y i'd love to replace the whole system but thats got to go on the back burner at the moment as i'm looking into another omega related enterprise ( think i might be getting the car bug lol ) ,
wasn't aware of the 2ohm issue either so thats going to be a big help , i always thought car speakers etc ran on 4 , so 2ohm tweets with a little OE added to it ,followed in a year or so by a complete replacement . is it a difficult job to junk the BOSE stuff ? :-?
The tweeters are 4 ohm on Bose, same as standard its the rest of the Bose speakers are 2 ohms.
Chris
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If you have the bose setup I'm surprised it's working happily from the speaker outputs of a head unit (if that's indeed the setup you have). Usually that would result in the inputs of the Bose amp being overdriven.
Kevin
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i just removed the old head unit and slapped the new one in to be honest , everything works fine , i'm getting active bass etc and the speakers won't go as loud as i'd like so i'm presuming its running through the bose system , its definately got the grills etc with bose on and there is some gubbins up under the parcel shelf which i presumed to be the amp etc . you've got me wondering now :-?
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The Bose amp will probably give out about due to being overdriven by the high power Alpine approx 10 seconds before the alpine then sees a short circuit load and goes bang !!
Alpine and BOSE should not be mixed ! You will need to remove / replace everything BOSE in the car, including amp, speakers and wiring in order to use aftermarket items - if not, then it will get very expensive, very quickly
:'(
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me thinks i have been lucky so far then as i drive it pretty hard :o from queen to the prodigy it all goes full volume , i'm wondering if someone has already been playing with it as going off inf recieved i should have completely blown the whole lot by now :'( quick question by the way dave , did you ever fit stuff for halfords customers down your way ? many moons ago now ::)
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I used to work for Halfords in Stevenage aound 25 years ago, but not down here in Devon.
Why do you ask?
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i used to work for the main company halfords chose to install all stereo's and sat navs etc , my job was co-ordinating the instalation engineers nationwide and i saw your signature and just wondered if it was a really small world and if you were one of the guys we used to call :)
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Quite likely, we have done a lot of work for Halfords over the years including a lot of warranty repairs as well on the ICE side of things.
;)
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the company was called Hyde Park Corner , they got the main contract then subbed the work out for anywhere outside the northwest , especially all the thatcham stuff , it was when Clifford were doing the remote start thatcham cat1's that invalidated themselves by self starting lol
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the company was called Hyde Park Corner , they got the main contract then subbed the work out for anywhere outside the northwest , especially all the thatcham stuff , it was when Clifford were doing the remote start thatcham cat1's that invalidated themselves by self starting lol
Seem to remember a nasty incident in a pub car park with the "self start" - didn`t someone get killed?
:-/
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I used to work for Halfords in Stevenage aound 25 years ago, but not down here in Devon.
Why do you ask?
Oh 'dangle berries', you must the been the guy who soldl'ed me the crappy Amstrad Head Unit that I had to take back to Comets at Potters Bar for a replacement.
:o :o
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I used to work for Halfords in Stevenage aound 25 years ago, but not down here in Devon.
Why do you ask?
Oh 'dangle berries', you must the been the guy who soldl'ed me the crappy Amstrad Head Unit that I had to take back to Comets at Potters Bar for a replacement.
:o :o
;D ;D ;D :-X
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i hadn't heard about that :o i just remember getting calls off irate customers who's insurance companies wouldn't recognise the thatcham certificate if the vehicle could be self started , even after the engineers had advised them of this fact lol
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I used to work for Halfords in Stevenage aound 25 years ago, but not down here in Devon.
Why do you ask?
Oh 'dangle berries', you must the been the guy who soldl'ed me the crappy Amstrad Head Unit that I had to take back to Comets at Potters Bar for a replacement.
:o :o
;D ;D ;D :-X
Amsturd didn't make car audio, did they? :o Thankfully, I've been spared it if they did. I dread to think... ;D
Kevin
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Amsturd didn't make car audio, did they? :o Thankfully, I've been spared it if they did. I dread to think... ;D
Kevin
They did in deed, I had the pleasure of binning repairing a few in my younger days.
Reckon you really missed out there Kevin.
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i hadn't heard about that :o i just remember getting calls off irate customers who's insurance companies wouldn't recognise the thatcham certificate if the vehicle could be self started , even after the engineers had advised them of this fact lol
The story went along the lines of a guy in the pub was playing with his car keys at the bar which then started the car outside which was in gear and shot across a car park at a rate of knots and killed someone.
Late 90`s ?
:'(
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Amsturd didn't make car audio, did they? :o Thankfully, I've been spared it if they did. I dread to think... ;D
Kevin
They did in deed, I had the pleasure of binning repairing a few in my younger days.
Reckon you really missed out there Kevin.
;)
They made something, but not sure it classed in any way as car audio though
::) :-X
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i hadn't heard about that :o i just remember getting calls off irate customers who's insurance companies wouldn't recognise the thatcham certificate if the vehicle could be self started , even after the engineers had advised them of this fact lol
The story went along the lines of a guy in the pub was playing with his car keys at the bar which then started the car outside which was in gear and shot across a car park at a rate of knots and killed someone.
Late 90`s ?
:'(
If the outcome hadn't been so tragic i bet that would have been hilarious to witness , the insurance claim form would have made interesting reading for a start ;D
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If the outcome hadn't been so tragic i bet that would have been hilarious to witness , the insurance claim form would have made interesting reading for a start
A car with no driver that started itself and drove itself across a private car park and killed someone -
Nope, don`t see why there would be a problem . . .
No driver, and victim dead - no one left to fill out the forms
;D :-X