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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Shackeng on 29 May 2011, 09:57:19
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I have just taken posession of a beautiful 3.2 Elite. I love everything about it, except the computer screen (readouts much too small for aged eyes) and over complicated 'infotainment' system, (its my age you know!). The system is a 2013. What is the opinion as to which is the best/most user friendly system for a F/L? And is it feasible to change the units and computer screen for an 'improved' one.
My MFL Td has a CCRT700 which I like, and the computer is easily operated by the RH stalk buttons, which the F/L doesn't have, although the LH wheel buttons do have similar functions. I also miss the built in phone on the TD, although I do have Bluetooth.
Any comments or suggestions as to a useful upgrade welcome. :y
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Had the same in mine when i got it in Feb but i have now put the CID system in, bigger display :) same controls :(
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What is a CID system Joff?
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Colour Info Display
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1282584285/8
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Thanks Rob, I DEFINITELY want one of those. Does anyone know if it is possible to upgrade to a 2015 (I think this has the phone) and a CID display from my eexisting 2013? :y
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Telematics are extremely hard to get hold of. If you were keeping your 2013 you would need to get your GID de-paired via TechII (you`ll need the carpass) and the replacement CID would have to be in "delivery" mode, ie de-paired. If you can get both the HU + CID from a donor car then it`s a straight swap out with a few extra cable connections. HU`s and Gid`s, Cid`s & telematics are paired to each other.
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Thanks Rob, am I right, the 2015 has built in phone? :y
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here you go shackeng :y
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VECTRA-C-SIGNUM-NCDC-2013-SAT-NAV-SCREEN-DISPLAY-CID-/110646257044?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19c307e594
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Different electrickery to the Mig
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oh that white mans magic stuff
only trouble is i am an electrician ;D ;D ;D
i thought though that the screens were the same :-/
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http://home.btconnect.com/nickargue/OmegaSatNav.htm
thats the info you need then to upgrade to ncdc with cid :y :y :y
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I was going to buy that one for mine as he is only 12 miles down the road but they are diffo to the migs, if you want to use one from a Vectra it will have to be from a Vectra B as they are the same. i had a new 2015 fitted to my old elite that i got off the bay of flea and TB did his Tech2 thing and it became a 2013 only two buttons had diffo fronts but all worked OK. The phone part goes in the glove box and is worked by the 2015, don't know if you can turn a 2013 into a 2015 with Tech2 you would have to ask TB. The extra wire that goes into the back of the CID should be in your loom already mine was but i did need a Tech2 fix just to tell the CID what car it was in. All works fine now with the help of the members on here, good luck in finding a CID and you will need a lot of penny's :y :y :o
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I was going to buy that one for mine as he is only 12 miles down the road but they are diffo to the migs, if you want to use one from a Vectra it will have to be from a Vectra B as they are the same. i had a new 2015 fitted to my old elite that i got off the bay of flea and TB did his Tech2 thing and it became a 2013 only two buttons had diffo fronts but all worked OK. The phone part goes in the glove box and is worked by the 2015, don't know if you can turn a 2013 into a 2015 with Tech2 you would have to ask TB. The extra wire that goes into the back of the CID should be in your loom already mine was but i did need a Tech2 fix just to tell the CID what car it was in. All works fine now with the help of the members on here, good luck in finding a CID and you will need a lot of penny's :y :y :o
Thanks guys, I am a bit puzzled as to how a 2015 becomes a 2013, but I believe anything I'm told by the experts.
So I need a 2015 plus screen, is that correct?
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http://home.btconnect.com/nickargue/OmegaSatNav.htm
thats the info you need then to upgrade to ncdc with cid :y :y :y
Excellent stuff, but not something I would tackle. :y
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Looking At it another way, as I find it easier to explane....
Take a 2015 with screen and telematics. All 3 are "paired" using the security code and tech2.
If you depair the telematics you then have 2013 software on your 2015 head unit. The print on the facia is the only hardware difference, while the software changes the red and green phone buttons function to "home" destination on the sat nav.
The problem you 'll have upgrading to 2015/adding telematics is the loom plug won't be present, and the unit all but fills the glove box. Blutooth is a far easier answer and arguably more convenient.
Having said all that it is possible to have the loom plug added, and hence the telematics unit relocated to e.g. the boot Bose shelf/first aid cupboard/Carin cage.
CID as a good enhancement over the GID. It's more clear and makes the software easier to use. Recommended!
But as said, any CID unit purchased for retro fitting MUST MUST MUST be depaired from it's original head unit, and hence in DELIVERY MODE in order be usable! Otherwise it is useless.
Steering wheel controls completely replace the stalk buttons btw, which are no longer needed. Takes a bit of getting used to, but it's far better IMO. Be aware In some modes some steering wheel buttons have no function. ;)
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Looking At it another way, as I find it easier to explane....
Take a 2015 with screen and telematics. All 3 are "paired" using the security code and tech2.
If you depair the telematics you then have 2013 software on your 2015 head unit. The print on the facia is the only hardware difference, while the software changes the red and green phone buttons function to "home" destination on the sat nav.
The problem you 'll have upgrading to 2015/adding telematics is the loom plug won't be present, and the unit all but fills the glove box. Blutooth is a far easier answer and arguably more convenient.
Having said all that it is possible to have the loom plug added, and hence the telematics unit relocated to e.g. the boot Bose shelf/first aid cupboard/Carin cage.
CID as a good enhancement over the GID. It's more clear and makes the software easier to use. Recommended!
But as said, any CID unit purchased for retro fitting MUST MUST MUST be depaired from it's original head unit, and hence in DELIVERY MODE in order be usable! Otherwise it is useless.
Steering wheel controls completely replace the stalk buttons btw, which are no longer needed. Takes a bit of getting used to, but it's far better IMO. Be aware In some modes some steering wheel buttons have no function. ;)
Thats very helpful Chris, I'll look out for a paired set or a depaired CID. Cheers mate. Oh and when I find one, I'll bring it along for fitment. heh heh heh! ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y
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Will any NCDC2013/2015 CID, properly paired or depaired as applicable, transplant OK?
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I can put this version of CID back into delivery mode if it is of any help
http://www.dndservices.co.uk/vauxhall-cid-display-kj.html
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I can put this version of CID back into delivery mode if it is of any help
http://www.dndservices.co.uk/vauxhall-cid-display-kj.html
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Thanks Dave, I'll keep that in mind.
Chris :y :y :y