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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: BlueBridge on 19 July 2011, 18:34:09
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Hi, just about to wire my towbar up, I saw on here a while ago what colours connect to what, but cant find it, anybody able to tell me, Just about to start so hopefully someone can help, cheers :y
Jon
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Towbar colours:
Blue - Rear Fog Supply
Green - RH Flasher
White - Earth
Black - LH Side Flasher
Yellow - LH Flasher
Brown - RH Side Flasher
Red - Stop Lights
Purple - Rear Fog Lamps
Vehicle Harness:
Black/Blue - Fog Light
Black/White - Turn Signal Left
Red - +12v Permanent
Grey/Black - Tail Lamp Left
Black/Yellow - Stop Lamp
Grey/Red - Tail Lamp Right
Black/Green - Turn Signal Right
Brown - Chassis/Negative
White/Black - Reversing Lamp
HTH :y
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Towbar colours:
Blue - Rear Fog Supply
Green - RH Flasher
White - Earth
Black - LH Side Flasher
Yellow - LH Flasher
Brown - RH Side Flasher
Red - Stop Lights
Purple - Rear Fog Lamps
Vehicle Harness:
Black/Blue - Fog Light
Black/White - Turn Signal Left
Red - +12v Permanent
Grey/Black - Tail Lamp Left
Black/Yellow - Stop Lamp
Grey/Red - Tail Lamp Right
Black/Green - Turn Signal Right
Brown - Chassis/Negative
White/Black - Reversing Lamp
HTH :y
Assuming using 12N & 12S sockets ::)
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Thanks Black Viper,
Got no purple on the tow bar colours though :-?
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Andy.... I am chopping them :D
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Thanks Black Viper,
Got no purple on the tow bar colours though :-?
Not sure where the purple comes from :-/
http://www.rightconnections.co.uk/viewpage.php?page_id=5 13 pins socket
http://www.westerntowing.co.uk/acatalog/Trailer_12N_wiring_diagram.html 12N
http://www.westerntowing.co.uk/acatalog/Trailer_12N_wiring_diagram.html 12S
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Andy.... I am chopping them :D
:-/ Chopping what? :-/
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Andy.... I am chopping them :D
:-/ Chopping what? :-/
Could be painful ::) ::)
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The colour codes were from Witter website, which I used to get my bar installed...
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The colour codes were from Witter website, which I used to get my bar installed...
Towbar colours:
Blue - Rear Fog Supply
Green - RH Flasher
White - Earth
Black - LH Side Flasher
Yellow - LH Flasher
Brown - RH Side Flasher
Red - Stop Lights
Purple - Rear Fog Lamps
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I suspect a mis-print then, as there are two colours for the rear fogs ;) ;)
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Well spotted Andy, will go and check and put my glasses back on, lol ;D
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Thanks lads, I'm chopping the wires as I havent got the socket on the towbar end.
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Another problem, I,ve connected the towbar wires where the previous owner had cut when removing, but they go into a circuit type board, and at the other end the colours are different, they are
brown
yellow
2 lots of grey
Blue
Black
Green
White
Red,
all of these are a much thinner wire, and also coming from this is an orange wire with an inline fuse on and another white one, which is from the original cable but not going through the circuit board.
Hope I've explained that well enough.
Or can I just not bother with this box?????
Sorry to be a thicko :y
Jon
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Another problem, I,ve connected the towbar wires where the previous owner had cut when removing, but they go into a circuit type board, and at the other end the colours are different, they are
brown
yellow
2 lots of grey
Blue
Black
Green
White
Red,
all of these are a much thinner wire, and also coming from this is an orange wire with an inline fuse on and another white one, which is from the original cable but not going through the circuit board.
Hope I've explained that well enough.
Or can I just not bother with this box?????
Sorry to be a thicko :y
Jon
Errr? :-/ No! ::) ;) ;) ;)
Any photo's? :y
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Photos coming up in a sec :y
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Although not positive, this sounds like a split charge relay... :-/
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(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/SDC13513.JPG?w=0e6f3f42)
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/SDC13514.JPG?w=c79f7a3c)
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(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/SDC13513.JPG?w=0e6f3f42)
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/SDC13514.JPG?w=c79f7a3c)
Sorry but I get this message ......
Error (403)
It seems you don't belong here! You should probably try logging in?
You can also check out our FAQ or forums and maybe you'll find what you were looking for. Or maybe you should try heading home.
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Can't see your pictures, did you put them in the public folder?
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(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/SDC13513.JPG?w=0e6f3f42)
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/SDC13514.JPG?w=c79f7a3c)
Both links don't work as I can't log in .. :)
Don't think its a split charge as the OP is listing way too many wires .... split charge will have 2 in - power and return and maybe 3 out max IMHO .. and the inputs should be fairly beefy gauge ....
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try this
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/SDC13513.JPG?w=b1b765ed)
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/SDC13514.JPG?w=6190a799)
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(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/SDC13513.JPG?w=0e6f3f42)
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/SDC13514.JPG?w=c79f7a3c)
Both links don't work as I can't log in .. :)
Don't think its a split charge as the OP is listing way too many wires .... split charge will have 2 in - power and return and maybe 3 out max IMHO .. and the inputs should be fairly beefy gauge ....
I reckon it could be a by-pass relay ..... :-/ :-/
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try this
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/SDC13513.JPG?w=b1b765ed)
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/SDC13514.JPG?w=6190a799)
Same as before :'(
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try this
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/SDC13513.JPG?w=b1b765ed)
(https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Public/SDC13514.JPG?w=6190a799)
still asking for a login
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Need to resize me thinks!! :y
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far to large to see anything properly .... sorry .. :(
EDIT .. looked at it a diffeent way .. and I still don't recognise it .... the right hand side looks like the output as it has 7 wires... 6 + white for earth .. and 12N/ 12S cables have 7 cores. Left hand side must be inputs from the car systems ... but quite why all the I/Cs I don't know... :(
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Although I've never seen a by-pass relay, I think I was right.
You don't need it & you can bin it. :y
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far to large to see anything properly .... sorry .. :(
Copy & save it to your own PC/lappy ;)
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far to large to see anything properly .... sorry .. :(
Copy & save it to your own PC/lappy ;)
or right click /view image .. :)
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Here you go :y
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/SDC13513.jpg)
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Sorry about this, I have tried resizing them, but they still come up just as big, durrr, any ideas how to get them up smaller? :-[
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Cheers Andy :y
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looking at that again .. I wonder if its some sort of "power amplifier" ... as the input wires are quite small in comparison to the outputs, and the large input on the left looks like a power source ???
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looking at that again .. I wonder if its some sort of "power amplifier" ... as the input wires are quite small in comparison to the outputs, and the large input on the left looks like a power source ???
Which why I suspect it's a 7 way by-pass relay. :-/
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Towbar colours:
Blue - Rear Fog Supply
Green - RH Flasher
White - Earth
Black - LH Side Flasher
Yellow - LH Flasher
Brown - RH Side Flasher
Red - Stop Lights
Purple - Rear Fog Lamps
Vehicle Harness:
Black/Blue - Fog Light
Black/White - Turn Signal Left
Red - +12v PermanentGrey/Black - Tail Lamp Left
Black/Yellow - Stop Lamp
Grey/Red - Tail Lamp Right
Black/Green - Turn Signal Right
Brown - Chassis/Negative
White/Black - Reversing Lamp
HTH :y
Assuming using 12N & 12S sockets ::)
Ha ha, your going to hate me, cos I'm not using the sockets, where do I connect the live to?
Think I shouldn't have been so tight and got this fitted professionally.
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Ha ha, your going to hate me, cos I'm not using the sockets, where do I connect the live to?
Think I shouldn't have been so tight and got this fitted professionally.
Do you mean that you're not using the OE socket in the boot? That's OK, you just need to make a proper connection ie NOT using Scotchlock connectors. You could chop the socket off & solder your 7 core cable to the individual wires.
Which live? If you mean for your newly discovered relay, just bin the relay. If you mean the feed for the caravan charging & fridge, then there is a larger red cable in the loom to the socket in the boot & put a fuse in under the dash.
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Ha ha, your going to hate me, cos I'm not using the sockets, where do I connect the live to?
Think I shouldn't have been so tight and got this fitted professionally.
Do you mean that you're not using the OE socket in the boot? That's OK, you just need to make a proper connection ie NOT using Scotchlock connectors. You could chop the socket off & solder your 7 core cable to the individual wires.
You might wish to use screw type cable connectors FIRST .. to make sure everything works as it should, then solder/shrink wrap once you KNOW it is right ....... just a thought ... :)
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You might wish to use screw type cable connectors FIRST .. to make sure everything works as it should, then solder/shrink wrap once you KNOW it is right ....... just a thought ... :)
Good idea. :y :y
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Ha ha, your going to hate me, cos I'm not using the sockets, where do I connect the live to?
Think I shouldn't have been so tight and got this fitted professionally.
Do you mean that you're not using the OE socket in the boot? That's OK, you just need to make a proper connection ie NOT using Scotchlock connectors. You could chop the socket off & solder your 7 core cable to the individual wires.
Which live? If you mean for your newly discovered relay, just bin the relay. If you mean the feed for the caravan charging & fridge, then there is a larger red cable in the loom to the socket in the boot & put a fuse in under the dash.
I'm just connecting single electrics for trailer, so does that mean I dont need to connect the thick red live?
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I'm just connecting single electrics for trailer, so does that mean I dont need to connect the thick red live?
Correct.
Just be aware that you pick up a live feed for the brakes (yellow/black) The feed at the OE socket is via a relay base up front under the dash. It's to extend the brake light check to your trailer - I suspect you won't want to do this ::) so just find a feed from the back of the lights themselves. :y :y
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Thanks for all your help, too dark now so I'll have a crack tomorrow.
Cheers everyone :y