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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: Big_Al on 25 August 2011, 19:48:45

Title: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 25 August 2011, 19:48:45
I have  been very wary of posting this . . what with Sods Law etc. but it has been a week now so hopefully the fault is cured.

Some of you may remember that over the past few months I have posted several questions & asked for advice on my CID screen playing up , showing a mass of greyish lines.

A sharp tap in the screen area would usually correct it.

It always seemed to me that it was more of a loose connection somewhere than  a problem in the screen itself.

My first attempt at getting to the back of the screen was a fair success, as i found the 12 pin connector for the maps was not plugged in. however, I could not manage to get the clocks panel right  out to see clearly how the 2 connector blocks were located.

Last week i had a second attempt at removing the clocks panel, this time with more success.

I found that the locking clips on both the main & 12 pin blocks on the CID were not  locked in place , meaning the connection were not located properly or tightly. Also of the 4 clips that hold the CID in place only 2 were located & the whole thing was lop sided.

Having been able to lock the connections  in place before the panel was put back into position is a much better option & I am sure that is how you should do it.

In the week since this was done & 150 ish miles later the screen has not yet faulted once . It would usually fault out several times even on a short trip & more so on bumpy roads.

So fingers crossed . .  it may be that it was a loose connection all
along.

I'll keep you posted on how it goes . . . ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: danzigfan on 25 August 2011, 19:56:14
 :y Good luck with it!
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: joff on 25 August 2011, 20:13:43
I do like an easy fix with cars, well done :y
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Jimbob on 25 August 2011, 20:14:49
Long may it continue  :y
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 25 August 2011, 20:17:12
Thanks guys,  very pleased with my "self fix" on this one ! ;D ;D ;D

Hope it lasts  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: albitz on 25 August 2011, 20:27:34
Glad to hear it Al. Must have been driving you mad, and very expensive to replace if it was fubared. :y
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2011, 09:00:54
Sorry to spoil the fun, but I know exactly what causes that issue, and you haven't fixed it.  But by man-handling the screen, given it a temporary reprive.

The answer is a new LCD panel  :'(
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: VXL V6 on 26 August 2011, 17:41:31
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Sorry to spoil the fun, but I know exactly what causes that issue, and you haven't fixed it.  But by man-handling the screen, given it a temporary reprive.

The answer is a new LCD panel  :'(

Agreed....  :'(
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 26 August 2011, 19:24:00
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Sorry to spoil the fun, but I know exactly what causes that issue, and you haven't fixed it.  But by man-handling the screen, given it a temporary reprive.The answer is a new LCD panel  :'(


You trying to spoil my glory TB ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure you are right though -  but still going strong at moment with not a hint of trouble :y :y :y :y

Both connectors were  previously a long way from being pushed right home though :-/ :-/ :-/


How long you punting on  before it goes t*ts up again then ? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: TheBoy on 26 August 2011, 21:56:36
If you're really lucky, a few days.  I suspect when it goes again, the belting of the dash won't be that successful, as before.
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: mrcnc53 on 27 August 2011, 18:10:45
You all have discribed what happened to mine, the cure is stick the new garmin in front of the CID,  use the petrol gauge, look at your watch and listen to radio 2 all the time.  How much are new CID's now ? 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 August 2011, 18:15:48
The flexi circuit connectors on the LCD panel get brittle joints, a good dose of reflowing of the solder appears to cure all very well (did it on mine and 12 months later all still good)
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 27 August 2011, 20:04:49
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The flexi circuit connectors on the LCD panel get brittle joints, a good dose of reflowing of the solder appears to cure all very well (did it on mine and 12 months later all still good)


thanks for the info that yours has lasted a year so far . .  :y :y

any pictures available of exactly what has to be re soldered. Looked at the pics in TB's   CID screen replacement in the maintenance guide, but not sure what the "flexi circuit connectors" are :-[ :-[

Screen is still good at the moment - but it has only been 10 days since I got the connections into the back of the screen properly.

TB says it' could be only a matter of a few days before it goes wrong again, If it does any kind of attemped repair must be worth a try first :-/ :-/


			
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 August 2011, 12:22:35
The connectors in question are within the LCD panel itself and are very fine pitch, I used a microscope and reflow kit plus rework flux to touch them all up.
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 28 August 2011, 16:07:01
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The connectors in question are within the LCD panel itself and are very fine pitch, I used a microscope and reflow kit plus rework flux to touch them all up.


That sounds a bit beyond me to be honest. :-[ :-[ :-[

PM sent.
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: albitz on 28 August 2011, 16:26:08
PM incoming Al.
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: albitz on 05 October 2011, 19:45:10
Sorry to spoil the fun, but I know exactly what causes that issue, and you haven't fixed it.  But by man-handling the screen, given it a temporary reprive.

The answer is a new LCD panel  :'(
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It aint necessarily so. ;)...........I have just had Al,s screen repaired. It just remains for it to be put back in the car to check all is ok. :)
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: MaxV6 on 06 October 2011, 00:20:21
for the record, i got quoted £425+VAT for a new CID about a week ago

Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: albitz on 06 October 2011, 13:34:03
And presumably it will need to be taken out of delivery mode and then paired with your headunit via tech2 which is further expense.
Providing Bigal,s repair is a success,I should be able to get them repaired for less than a quarter of what you were quoted. :)
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2011, 18:58:31
And presumably it will need to be taken out of delivery mode and then paired with your headunit via tech2 which is further expense.
Providing Bigal,s repair is a success,I should be able to get them repaired for less than a quarter of what you were quoted. :)
Last LCD panel I bought came in way under a quarter of MaxV6's quote.

Specialist equipment is needed to repair the ribbon-glass connection, which is where the fault lies....
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: albitz on 06 October 2011, 19:06:48
Specialist equipment has been used. :y............not counting chickens just yet though.It will need to be in the car for at least a month or so before it can be called a success imo. ;)
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2011, 19:17:56
Specialist equipment has been used. :y............not counting chickens just yet though.It will need to be in the car for at least a month or so before it can be called a success imo. ;)
Yup, I'd give it 3 months before being certain :y
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 10 October 2011, 21:10:02
Specialist equipment has been used. :y............not counting chickens just yet though.It will need to be in the car for at least a month or so before it can be called a success imo. ;)
Yup, I'd give it 3 months before being certain :y


3 seconds passed with no probs . .   then 3 minutes  . . .    then 3 hours  . . .    let you know wednesday Jamie if we get to 3 days  :y :y :y

Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: albitz on 10 October 2011, 21:10:57
Still ok so far then Al ?
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 10 October 2011, 21:44:32
Still ok so far then Al ?


Yep !  still grinning like the preverbial "Cheshire Pussy "  Albs !  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: albitz on 10 October 2011, 21:49:16
Hope its a permanent fix mate. :y
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 10 October 2011, 21:55:45
Hope its a permanent fix mate. :y


looking good at the mo ! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: Big_Al on 12 October 2011, 18:31:38
Specialist equipment has been used. :y............not counting chickens just yet though.It will need to be in the car for at least a month or so before it can be called a success imo. ;)
Yup, I'd give it 3 months before being certain :y


3 seconds passed with no probs . .   then 3 minutes  . . .    then 3 hours  . . .    let you know wednesday Jamie if we get to 3 days  :y :y :y



3 days gone . .  still sweet as . .     ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)       3 weeks is the next target  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Deep Joy with my CID
Post by: albitz on 12 October 2011, 18:48:43
Brilliant..............so far. :y :)