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Title: Tyre fitting...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 February 2008, 16:05:59
I have seen 2 brand new tyres I want from ebay, significant cost reduction compared to any tyre outlet.

Any ideas how I could get them fitted? I've called a few outlets, who won't fit anyone elses tyres for insurance reasons...
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Paul M on 26 February 2008, 16:09:47
Insurance reasons? Bah, sounds more like rip-off reasons, as in they want to get their huge markup on the tyres in addition to the fitting charge.

I've had lots of tyres purchased elsewhere fitted at small independents. Apart from the cost, quite often you can't get the brand of tyre you want in the size you need off the shelf, so it's easier just taking a pair in with you.

No doubt chains like Kwik-Fit et al. have a company policy against doing so.
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 February 2008, 16:12:09
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Insurance reasons? Bah, sounds more like rip-off reasons, as in they want to get their huge markup on the tyres in addition to the fitting charge.

I've had lots of tyres purchased elsewhere fitted at small independents. Apart from the cost, quite often you can't get the brand of tyre you want in the size you need off the shelf, so it's easier just taking a pair in with you.

No doubt chains like Kwik-Fit et al. have a company policy against doing so.

There is a little outlet in Cardiff that do part worns. I bet he would fit my 2 new tyres for a couple of beer tokens.

Only concern is, if they'd be done and balanced properly  :-/
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: SP_3.2 on 26 February 2008, 16:13:44
James you could try a small independent  place that fit new and part worn tyre just give them a £10 or so and all should be well.  :y
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Jimbob on 26 February 2008, 16:14:41
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Insurance reasons? Bah, sounds more like rip-off reasons, as in they want to get their huge markup on the tyres in addition to the fitting charge.

I've had lots of tyres purchased elsewhere fitted at small independents. Apart from the cost, quite often you can't get the brand of tyre you want in the size you need off the shelf, so it's easier just taking a pair in with you.

No doubt chains like Kwik-Fit et al. have a company policy against doing so.

There is a little outlet in Cardiff that do part worns. I bet he would fit my 2 new tyres for a couple of beer tokens.

Only concern is, if they'd be done and balanced properly  :-/

once they are on you can get them balanced anywhere for a tenner!
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 February 2008, 16:15:23
Second hand tyres (bad news) or new ones?
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Markie on 26 February 2008, 16:15:36
okay a sneaky for you....

go to mytyres.co.uk

they have a bit on their website that will let you put their postcode in and it will list the nearest pleaces that will fit mail order tyres for you.

Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 February 2008, 16:16:28
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Second hand tyres (bad news) or new ones?

Brand new, branded, W rated :y
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Markie on 26 February 2008, 16:18:00
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okay a sneaky for you....

go to mytyres.co.uk

they have a bit on their website that will let you put their postcode in and it will list the nearest pleaces that will fit mail order tyres for you.



try this link

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html

by the way the lcoal fitting stations WILL NOT require documented proof they bought your tyres from them either  ;)
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 February 2008, 16:22:54
Nice one markie - £7 a tyre at ETB :y

Going to get it done on Saturday :y

Ps, Mr DTM - Do I look like the sort of bloke who buys part worn tyres?  :'(

False economy in my book, when I can get branded new ones so cheap.. .

Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 February 2008, 16:25:32
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Nice one markie - £7 a tyre at ETB :y

Going to get it done on Saturday :y

Ps, Mr DTM - Do I look like the sort of bloke who buys part worn tyres?  :'(

False economy in my book, when I can get branded new ones so cheap.. .


No you dont but, its almost impossible to get part worn tyres fitted these days unless its by the crooks selling you them!
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: ians on 26 February 2008, 16:38:46
Are they really that good a deal James?   Bearing in mind transport, fitting etc and also not quite knowing their history..

If you are over this way at all (Berks/Hants) I can give you the names of a couple of reputable places that always compete well with mytyres etc.
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Markie on 26 February 2008, 16:38:51
I think part of the reason its become so hard to get mail order tyres fitted lies on my doorstep - well not literally.

We had a massive place about 2 miles away that operated on a bit of waste ground near a landfill, millionaire owner etc and to be honest were pretty good tyre fitters.

Anyway a tyre quite literally blew up in a workers face - killing him -  and the ongoing health and saftey judgment ( actually about 2 years ago and ongoing for ages) blamed the comapny and fined them about £400000. Since then no one wants to fit tyres unless you buy them on site..
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 February 2008, 16:40:01
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Bearing in mind transport, fitting etc and also not quite knowing their history..



History? But they are brand new?  :-/

Even with courier, it's MUCH cheaper for a branded tyre than any outlet!
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: ians on 26 February 2008, 16:42:55
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Bearing in mind transport, fitting etc and also not quite knowing their history..



History? But they are brand new?  :-/

Even with courier, it's MUCH cheaper for a branded tyre than any outlet!

OK.   Just for reference, if you want you could try giving Micheldever Tyre Services a call.

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: ffcgary1 on 26 February 2008, 16:48:18
I have heard some good things about micheldever tyres, prices are very very competitive. :y
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 February 2008, 16:50:08
Heres a bit of a price guide (exc VAT) for what I pay for 225/55/16

NEXEN CP641 95V 40.00
MATADOR MP42 95W 45.80
AVON ZZ3 95W 60.98
DUNLOP SP2000 Z (94W) 61.28
KLEBER HYDRAXER 95V 62.10
KLEBER HYDRAXER 95W 69.19
DUNLOP SPORT 01* 95V 70.19
GOODYEAR NCT 5 95V 72.17
DUNLOP SP9000 ZR 73.85
DUNLOP SP9000 95V MFS 74.45
PIRELLI P6000 J 95W 77.72
PIRELLI P7 95V * 78.41
CONTI PRE-CNT 2 95V 82.67
PIRELLI P7 95W * 83.06
CONTI PREM-CNTCT 95W 90.98
YOKOHAMA A460 94V 97.71
MICHLIN PRIMACY HP 95V 100.58
MICHLN PRIMACY G1 95W 100.58
MICHELIN PRIMACY* 95W 101.24
MICHELN PRIMACY G1 99Y 109.79

Now, some tyre dealers will get tyres even cheaper than this!

I have only put this up as a price reference so you can get an idea of mark up and also judge how far you can beat the price down!
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 February 2008, 16:53:14
You may disagree but, I am a fan of the Avon ZZ3 (regardless of what TB says ;D )

Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: ians on 26 February 2008, 16:55:56
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Heres a bit of a price guide (exc VAT) for what I pay for 225/55/16

NEXEN CP641 95V 40.00
MATADOR MP42 95W 45.80
AVON ZZ3 95W 60.98
DUNLOP SP2000 Z (94W) 61.28
KLEBER HYDRAXER 95V 62.10
KLEBER HYDRAXER 95W 69.19
DUNLOP SPORT 01* 95V 70.19
GOODYEAR NCT 5 95V 72.17
DUNLOP SP9000 ZR 73.85
DUNLOP SP9000 95V MFS 74.45
PIRELLI P6000 J 95W 77.72
PIRELLI P7 95V * 78.41
CONTI PRE-CNT 2 95V 82.67
PIRELLI P7 95W * 83.06
CONTI PREM-CNTCT 95W 90.98
YOKOHAMA A460 94V 97.71
MICHLIN PRIMACY HP 95V 100.58
MICHLN PRIMACY G1 95W 100.58
MICHELIN PRIMACY* 95W 101.24
MICHELN PRIMACY G1 99Y 109.79

Now, some tyre dealers will get tyres even cheaper than this!

I have only put this up as a price reference so you can get an idea of mark up and also judge how far you can beat the price down!

..have a heavy right foot do you Mark..? ;)
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: ians on 26 February 2008, 16:57:50
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I have heard some good things about micheldever tyres, prices are very very competitive. :y

they are indeed.   Take a good book though as the queues are something else at peak times!

I'd also recommend Bracknell tyres (apart from they need close supervision when torquing up wheel bolts >:()
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: maria on 26 February 2008, 16:58:20
Dont all men have a heavy  right foot because i now one that do'es some times ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 February 2008, 17:13:42
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Heres a bit of a price guide (exc VAT) for what I pay for 225/55/16

NEXEN CP641 95V 40.00
MATADOR MP42 95W 45.80
AVON ZZ3 95W 60.98
DUNLOP SP2000 Z (94W) 61.28
KLEBER HYDRAXER 95V 62.10
KLEBER HYDRAXER 95W 69.19
DUNLOP SPORT 01* 95V 70.19
GOODYEAR NCT 5 95V 72.17
DUNLOP SP9000 ZR 73.85
DUNLOP SP9000 95V MFS 74.45
PIRELLI P6000 J 95W 77.72
PIRELLI P7 95V * 78.41
CONTI PRE-CNT 2 95V 82.67
PIRELLI P7 95W * 83.06
CONTI PREM-CNTCT 95W 90.98
YOKOHAMA A460 94V 97.71
MICHLIN PRIMACY HP 95V 100.58
MICHLN PRIMACY G1 95W 100.58
MICHELIN PRIMACY* 95W 101.24
MICHELN PRIMACY G1 99Y 109.79

Now, some tyre dealers will get tyres even cheaper than this!

I have only put this up as a price reference so you can get an idea of mark up and also judge how far you can beat the price down!

..have a heavy right foot do you Mark..? ;)

Lol, I have online access to the Vx dealer cost prices......
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Golfbuddy on 26 February 2008, 17:15:35
Fit them yourself James. Then go and get them balanced locally. It's no big deal to do it, the only problem is breaking the bead between the tyre and the rim. A hammer and a decent block of wood should do it. All you need then is a suitable implement to use as a tyre lever and you're away.

OK so in a perfect world you'd replace the valve as well but you can't have everything.  ::)
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: ians on 26 February 2008, 17:15:38
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Heres a bit of a price guide (exc VAT) for what I pay for 225/55/16

NEXEN CP641 95V 40.00
MATADOR MP42 95W 45.80
AVON ZZ3 95W 60.98
DUNLOP SP2000 Z (94W) 61.28
KLEBER HYDRAXER 95V 62.10
KLEBER HYDRAXER 95W 69.19
DUNLOP SPORT 01* 95V 70.19
GOODYEAR NCT 5 95V 72.17
DUNLOP SP9000 ZR 73.85
DUNLOP SP9000 95V MFS 74.45
PIRELLI P6000 J 95W 77.72
PIRELLI P7 95V * 78.41
CONTI PRE-CNT 2 95V 82.67
PIRELLI P7 95W * 83.06
CONTI PREM-CNTCT 95W 90.98
YOKOHAMA A460 94V 97.71
MICHLIN PRIMACY HP 95V 100.58
MICHLN PRIMACY G1 95W 100.58
MICHELIN PRIMACY* 95W 101.24
MICHELN PRIMACY G1 99Y 109.79

Now, some tyre dealers will get tyres even cheaper than this!

I have only put this up as a price reference so you can get an idea of mark up and also judge how far you can beat the price down!

..have a heavy right foot do you Mark..? ;)

Lol, I have online access to the Vx dealer cost prices......

Do they have Falken ZE512?
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 February 2008, 17:18:49
Thats the complete 225/55/16 list.....
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: markey mark on 26 February 2008, 17:59:01
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Thats the complete 225/55/16 list.....

mark can you get prices for 235/35r19 and 265/30r19 bud please :y
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 February 2008, 21:06:36
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Fit them yourself James. Then go and get them balanced locally. It's no big deal to do it, the only problem is breaking the bead between the tyre and the rim. A hammer and a decent block of wood should do it. All you need then is a suitable implement to use as a tyre lever and you're away.

OK so in a perfect world you'd replace the valve as well but you can't have everything.  ::)

Surely you need heavy equipment to fit a tyre to  a rim? What about the sealant they use too?

I rekon I might just slip someone a few quid :D
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: markey mark on 26 February 2008, 21:16:20
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Fit them yourself James. Then go and get them balanced locally. It's no big deal to do it, the only problem is breaking the bead between the tyre and the rim. A hammer and a decent block of wood should do it. All you need then is a suitable implement to use as a tyre lever and you're away.

OK so in a perfect world you'd replace the valve as well but you can't have everything.  ::)

Surely you need heavy equipment to fit a tyre to  a rim? What about the sealant they use too?

I rekon I might just slip someone a few quid :D

it aint sealant james its lube !! ;D very hard to fit tyres on alloys bud better to get them fitted at tyre place mate usaly charge £10 a tyre inc valve and balance !! :y
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: Golfbuddy on 26 February 2008, 22:06:12
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Fit them yourself James. Then go and get them balanced locally. It's no big deal to do it, the only problem is breaking the bead between the tyre and the rim. A hammer and a decent block of wood should do it. All you need then is a suitable implement to use as a tyre lever and you're away.

OK so in a perfect world you'd replace the valve as well but you can't have everything.  ::)

Surely you need heavy equipment to fit a tyre to  a rim? What about the sealant they use too?

I rekon I might just slip someone a few quid :D

it aint sealant james its lube !! ;D very hard to fit tyres on alloys bud better to get them fitted at tyre place mate usaly charge £10 a tyre inc valve and balance !! :y

Many, many, many years ago, I mean a long, long, long, long time ago, I used to be a tyre fitter. I only did it to earn some pocket money on weekends.

We never used machinery to fit tyres to alloy wheels as they were too soft and you risked damaging them. We did use a stand alone machine to break the bead but that never touched the wheel rim. The rim was 'thrown' into the tyre and then fitted over with tyre levers, the other side was normally easier than the first side.

As MarkyMark says, they don't use sealant, it's only a lube to help the tyre fit over the rim and we just used to use fairy liquid although I'm sure there will be a expensive modern alternative.

As I said above, ideally you would need to fit a new valve but these only pull through the rim although a special tool is used for this.

I'd be surprised if you couldn't get an independant to fit them locally but this would obviously have to be factored into the cost of the tyres.

At the end of the day James, a monkey could fit tyres with a couple of days training. Let's face it, I used to do it.  ;)
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: lee4206 on 26 February 2008, 22:11:47
www.blackcircles.com   is worth a try  usually give a good price   ie 225/55w16 budgets from £46 and michelins for £110
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: TheBoy on 26 February 2008, 22:17:42
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You may disagree but, I am a fan of the Avon ZZ3 (regardless of what TB says ;D )

Did you see those rears on tractor.  It will be a tyre I'll never buy again...
Title: Re: Tyre fitting...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 February 2008, 22:45:38
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You may disagree but, I am a fan of the Avon ZZ3 (regardless of what TB says ;D )

Did you see those rears on tractor.  It will be a tyre I'll never buy again...

They were brand new when you had the wheels off me... what have you done to them  :-?

Lol, on this note - you should see the federal that came off the CDX. Now that IS a tyre I'll not use again !!!