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Title: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: admintemp on 23 September 2011, 16:24:54
Post issues here.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 September 2011, 17:03:02
Search might be suspect until index rebuilt - approx 6hrs.

Google Chrome is known to be suspect on forum images. No fix yet.

Images and themes may get tweaked in the coming weeks - currently trying to make it look as 'familiar' as possible :y

Signatures and 'Drives' will likely need to be recreated by each Member.

Everyone's account has had the ability for other members to email them disabled.  You can individually re-enable this.

I would suggest everyone reconfigures their topic/PM etc notifications again as well

PM display order may all be screwed up for imported PMs. Should be OK for new PMs from 5pm today onwards :y

All your buddy lists and carefully crafted Ignore lists are all toast as well ::)

Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: RobG on 23 September 2011, 17:07:27
Looking good TB. Nice fast response as well. Congratulations to you all for a good job :y :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 September 2011, 17:11:48
Looking nice. Well done on what looks to be a smooth migration so far..

Kevin
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 23 September 2011, 17:13:29
All looks pretty good, if slightly strange - OOF but not OOF - back online much sooner than expected.Must be feeding the new hamster on steroids. Well done. :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Elite Pete on 23 September 2011, 17:14:52
Been lost without it, thanks for all the hard work by all those involved :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: RobG on 23 September 2011, 17:34:00
Any facility for "call back" with PM`s and icon when a PM has been opened/read :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: henryd on 23 September 2011, 17:34:39
I'm running chrome and all seems well for me at the moment  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 September 2011, 17:39:54
Any facility for "call back" with PM`s and icon when a PM has been opened/read :-\
No, not in this version.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: MV6Matt on 23 September 2011, 17:43:23
Looks good boys - very welcome and thanks for massive amounts of work to make it happen.

Very, very welcome update :y :y :y :y :y

Matthew
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 September 2011, 17:46:54
Everyone's account has had the ability for other members to email them disabled.  You can individually re-enable this.

I would suggest everyone reconfigures their topic/PM etc notifications again as well
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 September 2011, 17:53:01
All your buddy lists and carefully crafted Ignore lists are all toast as well ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: henryd on 23 September 2011, 17:58:27
What about pictures ?, do we still need photobucket or dropbox
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Vamps on 23 September 2011, 18:06:44
I didn't expect to get on tonight, what a nice surprise - yes I did try..... :D :D :D

Thanks TB for getting it all sorted so quickly....... :y :y :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: STMO123 on 23 September 2011, 18:19:46
Can't see the 'modify' button
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: STMO123 on 23 September 2011, 18:20:28
Or 'delete' ?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 September 2011, 18:22:05
What about pictures ?, do we still need photobucket or dropbox
Yes
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 September 2011, 18:23:05
Can't see the 'modify' button
Ability to modify (or delete) your own posts hasn't been enabled yet.  We may decide to leave them disabled ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: STMO123 on 23 September 2011, 18:30:15
Can't see the 'modify' button
Ability to modify (or delete) your own posts hasn't been enabled yet.  We may decide to leave them disabled ::)

Please yer rather self  ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: STMO123 on 23 September 2011, 18:33:24
My wife finds the words 'go down' at the top of each page offensive  :-X
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 23 September 2011, 19:07:34
Can't see the 'modify' button
Ability to modify (or delete) your own posts hasn't been enabled yet.  We may decide to leave them disabled ::)

That would be a mistake imo. ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Andy B on 23 September 2011, 19:09:26
Can't see the 'modify' button
Ability to modify (or delete) your own posts hasn't been enabled yet.  We may decide to leave them disabled ::)

That would be a mistake imo. ;)

IMHO I think it should be an option too.  ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 23 September 2011, 19:18:33
its a nice surprise to have OOF tonight :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: danzigfan on 23 September 2011, 19:20:00
Will need to get use to new look, looking a bit odd on android now. Going to check new version on comp tomorrow, because I wanted to change my touch screen to punch/smack screen at first..... ;D Anyway, noce work, change makes forum more fresh :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: activamad on 23 September 2011, 19:22:32
Yaay finally a new post since last visit. Thank you!!
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Nickbat on 23 September 2011, 19:41:07
Still can't post embedded media links (mentioned this on the beta trial)  :(
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Nickbat on 23 September 2011, 19:43:56
Think you need this mod, TB. :y

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 23 September 2011, 20:16:15
My wife finds the words 'go down' at the top of each page offensive  :-X

What does she make to the 'go up' at the bottom of each page  :-\ ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 September 2011, 20:20:04
Think you need this mod, TB. :y

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681)

Your assuming we didn't exclude the media insert for a reason.....
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Omega_Dan on 23 September 2011, 20:35:00
I now have to log in as omega_dan which i think is my user name but my display name is still Dan_282.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Nickbat on 23 September 2011, 20:38:58
Think you need this mod, TB. :y

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681)

Your assuming we didn't exclude the media insert for a reason.....

You're right. I did assume that. ;)

And the reason is?  ???
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Richie London on 23 September 2011, 20:52:23
Very nice.  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Proz on 23 September 2011, 20:56:36
Looks good .... and fast as well  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 September 2011, 21:13:25
Think you need this mod, TB. :y

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681)

Your assuming we didn't exclude the media insert for a reason.....

You're right. I did assume that. ;)

And the reason is?  ???

We in the clique think its rubbish
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 September 2011, 21:16:09
I like it!! Good effort guys!!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Tony H on 23 September 2011, 21:55:49
Had problems loggng on wouldn't recognise my log on details for three attempts I persisted and succeeded so I'm back  8) well done all those involved getting OOF back on line your hard work is appreciated  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 23 September 2011, 22:03:06
well done TB think the site and people are great sorry i posted first response in wrong section will accept 10 lashes at next meet :y :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: plym ian on 23 September 2011, 22:20:24
looking good a job well done :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Vamps on 23 September 2011, 22:27:33
well done TB think the site and people are great sorry i posted first response in wrong section will accept 10 lashes at next meet :y :y

 :o :o :o  Not another one from the pink clique..... :D :D :D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 23 September 2011, 22:36:02
well done TB think the site and people are great sorry i posted first response in wrong section will accept 10 lashes at next meet :y :y

 :o :o :o  Not another one from the pink clique..... :D :D :D

when i first met the great pink one in his cocs i was converted pink rules ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 September 2011, 23:29:03
Think you need this mod, TB. :y

http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=2681)

Your assuming we didn't exclude the media insert for a reason.....

You're right. I did assume that. ;)

And the reason is?  ???

We in the clique think its rubbish
PMSL :D :D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 September 2011, 23:29:52
Sure it'll have been spotted already but highlight isn't working
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tidla on 23 September 2011, 23:57:52
Can't see the 'girly' button
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Vamps on 24 September 2011, 00:22:15
well done TB think the site and people are great sorry i posted first response in wrong section will accept 10 lashes at next meet :y :y

 :o :o :o  Not another one from the pink clique..... :D :D :D

when i first met the great pink one in his cocs i was converted pink rules ;D ;D


Nice to see a Junior getting into the true spirit of oof..... :y :y :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: The Red Baron on 24 September 2011, 00:36:10
all looks pretty good to me.  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: twiglet on 24 September 2011, 00:54:00
IMO losing the modify option would be a mistake too. I quite often only notice an error in my posts after I have actually posted them. Not giving people the option to correct themselves will lead to inaccurate information being posted more often, and lots of extra unnecessary posts from people correcting them. I think that will just get annoying for the OP.

Also, have was lost the section that shows where members are located? That was very useful.  :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Ratty on 24 September 2011, 01:06:30
I just posted with a typo in it i had to quote myself - as it were - to correct it, I love SMF forums but it really does need the ability to edit/modify posts maybe put a time limit to edit posts, say, 10 minutes or something. Deleting imo should be left to admins and mods because a member deleting a post in the middle of the thread could cause problems for the flow of the discussion.

Just my tuppence worth  :)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: twiglet on 24 September 2011, 01:11:29
Totally agree, with the exception of the Cars and Parts For Sale areas, where I think the OP should also be able to delete a thread once the car/part is sold.  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: jonnycool on 24 September 2011, 04:35:45
Is there a way of getting notifications onto your headerboard without having to click on your profile?

Also, notifications don't seem to take you to the page where you last read, only to the beginning of the thread, which is a pain
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 24 September 2011, 05:15:24
Well, having had an evening of using the new setup, I must confess that I preferred the old setup and layout in just about every way I can think off - when it worked properly that is.I do realise that it wasnt feasible to carry on with the old system though, so theres no choice but to get used to this one.
I hope that doesnt sound ungrateful, its not meant to.I know TB has put a lot of work into getting the new system up and running, and for good reasons - for which I have utmost respect and gratitude. :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: s7eve v6 24v on 24 September 2011, 06:25:06
looking good  8)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 09:11:38
You're probably all aware that the email isn't working.

Its not an SMF problem, its a server problem.

I'm on it.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 09:18:37
Well, having had an evening of using the new setup, I must confess that I preferred the old setup and layout in just about every way I can think off - when it worked properly that is.I do realise that it wasnt feasible to carry on with the old system though, so theres no choice but to get used to this one.
I hope that doesnt sound ungrateful, its not meant to.I know TB has put a lot of work into getting the new system up and running, and for good reasons - for which I have utmost respect and gratitude. :y
I preferred the 'look' of the old one, and it had one or 2 unique features that we used to use, which can only be half-arsed implemented on other software.

The fact is, however, YaBB is a dead duck, and we were beyond the limits of its capabilities for about the last year, given the resources we can afford to throw at it.  We had one of the largest YaBB sites out there, we understood it well, and how to make it perform (unlike YaBB themselves - see their own forum ::) on any evening, and how 'well' it runs with a handful of users online). It will take us a while to get up to speed with SMF with regard to understanding it.  Apart from a couple of handwritten modifications for highlight function, its currently pretty bog standard.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 09:19:22
Not that highlight works - I'm on that as well!
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 09:27:44
You're probably all aware that the email isn't working.

Its not an SMF problem, its a server problem.

I'm on it.
Fixed
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 09:32:07
Not that highlight works - I'm on that as well!
Fixed

Typo, sorry. It seems that highlight is too difficult for an idiot to type...   ...didn't the computer know what I meant? :P
Title: no post editing rights for own posts
Post by: Shark1e on 24 September 2011, 10:07:44
hi admin / mods we have no post editing rights setup for our posts please advise

thanks rob
Title: Re: no post editing rights for own posts
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 10:32:51
Correct.

This is currently by design, until we (Admins) are more familiar with the way the site works now.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 24 September 2011, 10:57:46
new thread colour, from board level, threads with new posts are still same colour, quite difficult to pick out which ones are new, this a tweak in the template thats due in next week or two?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 11:02:13
new thread colour, from board level, threads with new posts are still same colour, quite difficult to pick out which ones are new, this a tweak in the template thats due in next week or two?
Feel free to submit some artwork (*MUST* be proven copyright free if nicking from internet), we can all have a vote on stuff then :y

As you've gathered, my artistic abilities are poor ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 11:07:47
I now have to log in as omega_dan which i think is my user name but my display name is still Dan_282.
Correct - you must log in with username. YaBB was a bit too relaxed over that
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 24 September 2011, 11:11:11
artwork? surely its just a flat colour?  :-\

On Yabb new threads with new post where lighter blue than rest, really easy to pick out. At the moment, stickies are a different colour, maybe that for new posts?  :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: omegod on 24 September 2011, 11:28:24
Still no minifacelift in the header pics, thats near miggy racism!

New format looks odd but sure I will get used to it :y cheers for the effort!
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 11:58:01
artwork? surely its just a flat colour?  :-\

On Yabb new threads with new post where lighter blue than rest, really easy to pick out. At the moment, stickies are a different colour, maybe that for new posts?  :-\
What are you smoking? ;D

YaBB post colours didn't change based on new post or not....
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 11:59:06
the "new" button isn't that clear though, IMHO
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 24 September 2011, 12:05:19
artwork? surely its just a flat colour?  :-\

On Yabb new threads with new post where lighter blue than rest, really easy to pick out. At the moment, stickies are a different colour, maybe that for new posts?  :-\
What are you smoking? ;D

YaBB post colours didn't change based on new post or not....

The thread title did, at board level...
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 12:07:28
artwork? surely its just a flat colour?  :-\

On Yabb new threads with new post where lighter blue than rest, really easy to pick out. At the moment, stickies are a different colour, maybe that for new posts?  :-\
What are you smoking? ;D

YaBB post colours didn't change based on new post or not....

The thread title did, at board level...
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=general

can't see what you mean
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 24 September 2011, 12:11:18
OK i'll put out this funny cigarette  ;D ;D

The old style it was a lot easier to pick out new threads, for some reason its harder with this layout  :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 24 September 2011, 12:14:41
maybe because its the "new" image is on the right, not the left as it was previously, its not pushing new text in, making it stand out more  :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 12:21:18
I agree is not as striking, hence artwork request. Overall, I think YaBB was clearer and cleaner

we are running a non optimal theme hear, in order to make it more familiar to oofers...
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 24 September 2011, 12:26:01
what kind of art work are you after? Those new/old post traffic light bullet points need adjusting. I'm happy to have a bash at other things too, what do you need? Different "new" image? A background to new thread at board level?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 12:27:27
what kind of art work are you after? Those new/old post traffic light bullet points need adjusting. I'm happy to have a bash at other things too, what do you need? Different "new" image? A background to new thread at board level?
no backgrounds as they aren't images, but anything else considered
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: twiglet on 24 September 2011, 12:38:53
Can we lose this limit of 5 PM's per hour please? It's a real pain if you only have a few minutes and need to reply to several PM's, or are in a PM convo...  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 24 September 2011, 12:40:45
Didnt know about that. I often send 5 PM,s in less than 5 minutes. :o ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: twiglet on 24 September 2011, 12:46:42
That's odd, it's not doing it now.  :-\ Had this message come up saying about 5 PM's in an hour a couple of times, but it seems ok now.  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Osprey on 24 September 2011, 12:49:05
Re threads with new posts, the green button is now clickable.  Use this and the threads with new posts don't need to stand out - there aren't and dusty old ones at all.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Osprey on 24 September 2011, 12:52:58
I agree is not as striking, hence artwork request. Overall, I think YaBB was clearer and cleaner

we are running a non optimal theme hear, in order to make it more familiar to oofers...

Oh dear - are we all so crusty and set in our ways that we can't handle a new theme? 
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 24 September 2011, 13:08:58
what kind of art work are you after? Those new/old post traffic light bullet points need adjusting. I'm happy to have a bash at other things too, what do you need? Different "new" image? A background to new thread at board level?
no backgrounds as they aren't images, but anything else considered

Replacement for:

(http://images.omegaowners.com/forum/smf2000/Themes/core/images/post/xx.gif)

Could that fill the entire square?  :-\
Title: How do we?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 September 2011, 16:41:09
Modify or delete posts?......I can't find the relevant buttons.
Title: Re: How do we?
Post by: tunnie on 24 September 2011, 16:48:17
you can't  ;)

Not yet anyway...
Title: Re: How do we?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 September 2011, 17:22:43
dont make mistakes or dont change your mind ;D :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Tony H on 24 September 2011, 17:36:21
Is it possible to have a view "all" posts button instead of having to click on each individual page number? :-\
Title: Re: How do we?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 September 2011, 17:38:19
you can't  ;)

Not yet anyway...



That's pretty piss poor...... ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: STMO123 on 24 September 2011, 17:46:13
Is it possible to have a view "all" posts button instead of having to click on each individual page number? :-\

It's there already, numbskull ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: dbug on 24 September 2011, 18:20:59
Good job - seems faster to me.

Agree re "Edit/Modify" posts - always making spoiling mistukes  ;)

Where's the flashing red & green lights gone?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 20:45:43
Is it possible to have a view "all" posts button instead of having to click on each individual page number? :-\
its there unless the thread is longer than 5 pages
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cam2502 on 24 September 2011, 21:04:54
appreciate the hard work...but at this moment in time i prefered the old version.
sure i'll get used to it tho. how do i check out the last few posts i have made?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Tony H on 24 September 2011, 21:36:32
Is it possible to have a view "all" posts button instead of having to click on each individual page number? :-\
its there unless the thread is longer than 5 pages

Sorry Jaime didn't notice that  :'( I bet your head is spinning with all the questions regarding the changes
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 24 September 2011, 21:58:42
Just noticed the missing location info too. I guess that could be added to one of the other info boxs by members?

Or is there a fix on the way at some point?  :)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 24 September 2011, 21:59:52
Just noticed the missing location info too. I guess that could be added to one of the other info boxs by members?

Or is there a fix on the way at some point?  :)
Sure "drives" was there on the test site ?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 22:05:00
appreciate the hard work...but at this moment in time i prefered the old version.
sure i'll get used to it tho. how do i check out the last few posts i have made?
Profile > Show Posts
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 22:05:34
Just noticed the missing location info too. I guess that could be added to one of the other info boxs by members?

Or is there a fix on the way at some point?  :)
Fix planned
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 22:06:34
Just noticed the missing location info too. I guess that could be added to one of the other info boxs by members?

Or is there a fix on the way at some point?  :)
Sure "drives" was there on the test site ?
Should be, let me check why its not showing...  ...the data, however, needs to be reinput by each member, as the data wasn't imported.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 22:07:15
Just noticed the missing location info too. I guess that could be added to one of the other info boxs by members?

Or is there a fix on the way at some point?  :)
Sure "drives" was there on the test site ?
Should be, let me check why its not showing...  ...the data, however, needs to be reinput by each member, as the data wasn't imported.
Yes, its just because the data is missing from most people's profile now.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 September 2011, 22:24:17
Just noticed the missing location info too. I guess that could be added to one of the other info boxs by members?

Or is there a fix on the way at some point?  :)
Fixed.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 24 September 2011, 22:49:16
Sorted.

Also
is not allowed from sigs...?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 24 September 2011, 22:50:50
Sorted.

Also
is not allowed from sigs...?
;D I guess you see what I mean  ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 24 September 2011, 22:53:54
Sorted.

Also
is not allowed from sigs...?
;D I guess you see what I mean  ;D
IN... Not allowed "IN" sigs .... Ffs.  ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 24 September 2011, 23:02:31
Poll not showing in Oxford meet thread. Guess the poll isoniazid the old site?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 24 September 2011, 23:03:43
Poll not showing in Oxford meet thread. Guess the poll is on the old site?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 24 September 2011, 23:14:39
Sorted.

Also
is not allowed from sigs...?
;D I guess you see what I mean  ;D
IN... Not allowed "IN" sigs .... Ffs.  ;D
And that code keeps appearing in "drives". I think when trying to get sig to move.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: F1 9LFG on 24 September 2011, 23:30:59
Great improvement - had issues logging in as I was using a 'space' instead of an '_' but I'm in now and loving the new, cleaner, quicker site - Well done Admin, Thanks for your time and effort.
 :y :y :y
Rob
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 24 September 2011, 23:32:37
Just went to reply to a PM and was told I have a limit of 5 PM,s per hour. ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Vamps on 24 September 2011, 23:42:17
I don't like the clock that counts up how long we have been on oof, it does not reset each time I log on, how long before the evidence that I am a saddo is staring me in the face....... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: henryd on 24 September 2011, 23:43:56
I don't like the clock that counts up how long we have been on oof, it does not reset each time I log on, how long before the evidence that I am a saddo is staring me in the face....... ::) ::) ::)

LOL,I was thinking the same thing myself ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 24 September 2011, 23:43:58
I now have two PM,s that I need to reply to but cant.I believe Twiglet had a similar problem earlier today.Anyone know why ?
Does it apply to everyone all the time ? A glitch ?....... :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 September 2011, 23:49:22
I now have two PM,s that I need to reply to but cant.I believe Twiglet had a similar problem earlier today.Anyone know why ?
Does it apply to everyone all the time ? A glitch ?....... :-\

 ;D ;D

another one also here ;D please check your mail :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 24 September 2011, 23:52:47
Have done and replied Cem. I think the details you gave me a while ago in PM will be ok. :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 25 September 2011, 04:54:20
Found a little bug... Can't modify my profile from gayphone ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 25 September 2011, 04:55:54
Quick reply feature missing?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 25 September 2011, 05:10:27
Quick reply feature missing?
Pop pm notification, was that ever a feature here :-\ took me ages to notice I had a pm signified next to "my messages" .

Then took several minutes to load a page after viewing pm. Got two time outs saying "server stopped responding"

Noticed this before but was on a mobile over 3G. But now at home over wiffy. Only 3 on line att
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 08:26:42
Sorted.

Also
is not allowed from sigs...?
correct. A signature should not be distracting from the thread ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 08:29:47
I now have two PM,s that I need to reply to but cant.I believe Twiglet had a similar problem earlier today.Anyone know why ?
Does it apply to everyone all the time ? A glitch ?....... :-\
its a restriction we have in place to protect the server. As time goes on, there may be an opportunity to increase this figure, but there will always be a restriction
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 08:30:21
Quick reply feature missing?
that's a personal setting in your profile
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 25 September 2011, 09:37:56
Theme tweaks, not sure what it is about this theme, don't like it as much as Yabb, took a look at some alternatives, sure you've already seen most likely? Maybe worth a few tests, polls?

 http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2368 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2368)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1867 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1867)

=blue;desc[]=blue;start=20]http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;name[]=blue;desc[]=blue;start=20 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;name[)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1706 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1706)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1051 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1051)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1284 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1284)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=563 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=563)

(drop the background)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 25 September 2011, 13:37:59
Gotcha
Quick reply feature missing?
that's a personal setting in your profile
Gotcha. Thank you.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 25 September 2011, 14:25:40
No modify button is a rather nuisance. Sorry, just is.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 25 September 2011, 14:56:42
No modify button is a rather nuisance. Sorry, just is.

I can see why the admins like it, people can't modify posts afterwards. But then again surely that would have been in the bin they could see anyway  :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: aaronjb on 25 September 2011, 15:20:05
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 25 September 2011, 15:25:54
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?

+ 1

Just got back on after several hours of trying.  But since the change there have been the odd 5 min outage
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 25 September 2011, 15:27:49
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?

+ 1

Just got back on after several hours of trying.  But since the change there have been the odd 5 min outage

TB is aware, no doubt doing his best after a complicated migration  :)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 25 September 2011, 18:55:56
can we have the previous / next thread buttons back please  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 25 September 2011, 18:58:10
all looks good to me  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 18:58:26
Theme tweaks, not sure what it is about this theme, don't like it as much as Yabb, took a look at some alternatives, sure you've already seen most likely? Maybe worth a few tests, polls?

 http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2368 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2368)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1867 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1867)

=blue;desc[]=blue;start=20]http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;name[]=blue;desc[]=blue;start=20 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?action=search;name[)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1706 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1706)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1051 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1051)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1284 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=1284)

http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=563 (http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=563)

(drop the background)
We are not changing themes (too many problems with each upgrade, as most of these theme writers never bother after they get bored).  Artwork & css is fine.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 18:58:47
can we have the previous / next thread buttons back please  :y
No
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 19:08:52
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 25 September 2011, 19:23:25
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

TBH, this evening is the first time i've noticed the problem.....is the old yabb forum on the same server? coz that seems to disapear as well for me  :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 19:27:23
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

TBH, this evening is the first time i've noticed the problem.....is the old yabb forum on the same server? coz that seems to disapear as well for me  :-\
Yup, YaBB site on same server. Which certainly isn't helping matters - its surprising how many people are constantly on the old site. Why, I have no idea...
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 19:28:43
can we have the previous / next thread buttons back please  :y
No
Not yet - something not right with it. Far more important things to investigate before that.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Entwood on 25 September 2011, 19:38:14
can we have the previous / next thread buttons back please  :y

100% agree with this request ... just got back from the weekend away and "catching up" used to be easy ... go to last read post, then use the previous button to step up through the posts ... now you end up having to select page 2, then the post - read it , then the heading, then page 2, then the next post.. its slightly easier once you reach page 1 .. but still not "user friendly"  :(

Other than that whinge ... congrats to TB for excellent work .. looks good and seems quick (except for the odd can't connect" which I guess is work in progress) so a big "thanks" from me  :y :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 25 September 2011, 19:41:25
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

Is it every time I view a page that's causing it? :-X  ::)  :)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 19:47:09
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

Is it every time I view a page that's causing it? :-X  ::)  :)
Yeah, its all you rather fault, gayboy :P


In layman terms:
Its the hourly backups

For those that understand, to get a point-in-time backup of the database (and it has to be point-in-time to maintain consistency), it is necessary to lock the database tables before the backup starts, and release the locks when its complete. In testing, this was taking less than 30s, which we thought we would get away with.  Now traffic has ramped up, and an unexpected high number of users still browsing the old YaBB site, the server is working much, much harder, and its taking a few minutes. People then get fed up with waiting, so constantly hit refresh, giving the server yet more requests to deal with.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 19:48:26
can we have the previous / next thread buttons back please  :y

100% agree with this request ... just got back from the weekend away and "catching up" used to be easy ... go to last read post, then use the previous button to step up through the posts ... now you end up having to select page 2, then the post - read it , then the heading, then page 2, then the next post.. its slightly easier once you reach page 1 .. but still not "user friendly"  :(

Other than that whinge ... congrats to TB for excellent work .. looks good and seems quick (except for the odd can't connect" which I guess is work in progress) so a big "thanks" from me  :y :y
As said, there is a problem with it, and fixing that is not a priority I'm afraid.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 25 September 2011, 19:50:51
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

TBH, this evening is the first time i've noticed the problem.....is the old yabb forum on the same server? coz that seems to disapear as well for me  :-\
Yup, YaBB site on same server. Which certainly isn't helping matters - its surprising how many people are constantly on the old site. Why, I have no idea...

Probably coz they are lazy like me  ::)
Open new window in chrome.....type om......chrome brings up yabb version first, so i just click on the linky to the new site from the yabb version  ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 19:51:42
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

TBH, this evening is the first time i've noticed the problem.....is the old yabb forum on the same server? coz that seems to disapear as well for me  :-\
Yup, YaBB site on same server. Which certainly isn't helping matters - its surprising how many people are constantly on the old site. Why, I have no idea...

Probably coz they are lazy like me  ::)
Open new window in chrome.....type om......chrome brings up yabb version first, so i just click on the linky to the new site from the yabb version  ;D
::) Me too  :-[
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 25 September 2011, 20:04:10
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

Is it every time I view a page that's causing it? :-X  ::)  :)
Yeah, its all you rather fault, gayboy :P


In layman terms:
Its the hourly backups

For those that understand, to get a point-in-time backup of the database (and it has to be point-in-time to maintain consistency), it is necessary to lock the database tables before the backup starts, and release the locks when its complete. In testing, this was taking less than 30s, which we thought we would get away with.  Now traffic has ramped up, and an unexpected high number of users still browsing the old YaBB site, the server is working much, much harder, and its taking a few minutes. People then get fed up with waiting, so constantly hit refresh, giving the server yet more requests to deal with.

That certainly is not Laymans Terms Jammie  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I for one ain't got a bloody clue what you were just bangin' on about  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 20:44:38
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

Is it every time I view a page that's causing it? :-X  ::)  :)
Yeah, its all you rather fault, gayboy :P


In layman terms:
Its the hourly backups

For those that understand, to get a point-in-time backup of the database (and it has to be point-in-time to maintain consistency), it is necessary to lock the database tables before the backup starts, and release the locks when its complete. In testing, this was taking less than 30s, which we thought we would get away with.  Now traffic has ramped up, and an unexpected high number of users still browsing the old YaBB site, the server is working much, much harder, and its taking a few minutes. People then get fed up with waiting, so constantly hit refresh, giving the server yet more requests to deal with.

That certainly is not Laymans Terms Jammie  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I for one ain't got a bloody clue what you were just bangin' on about  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sorry, the laymans bit was the backups are causing the problem.

The other bit was for those who give a monkeys :P
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 25 September 2011, 20:48:19
Ah... now why didn't you just say that  ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 September 2011, 20:51:45
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

Is it every time I view a page that's causing it? :-X  ::)  :)
Yeah, its all you rather fault, gayboy :P


In layman terms:
Its the hourly backups

For those that understand, to get a point-in-time backup of the database (and it has to be point-in-time to maintain consistency), it is necessary to lock the database tables before the backup starts, and release the locks when its complete. In testing, this was taking less than 30s, which we thought we would get away with.  Now traffic has ramped up, and an unexpected high number of users still browsing the old YaBB site, the server is working much, much harder, and its taking a few minutes. People then get fed up with waiting, so constantly hit refresh, giving the server yet more requests to deal with.

Bringing db to single user or lock mode is a must in all databases unless a new technology is introduced.. However, although expensive there are some alternative solutions like replicated/image backup but not sure this is a must or priority now..

just my opinion, stopping the old site and giving all efforts to the new one will be easier imo..And will decrease the server activity on disks ..

And from my experience, I always prefer to back up(sql) at late midnight hours , and during the day time, write the inserts, updates and deletes on sequential log files in case of a recovery necessity..
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 25 September 2011, 20:55:26
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

Is it every time I view a page that's causing it? :-X  ::)  :)
Yeah, its all you rather fault, gayboy :P


In layman terms:
Its the hourly backups

For those that understand, to get a point-in-time backup of the database (and it has to be point-in-time to maintain consistency), it is necessary to lock the database tables before the backup starts, and release the locks when its complete. In testing, this was taking less than 30s, which we thought we would get away with.  Now traffic has ramped up, and an unexpected high number of users still browsing the old YaBB site, the server is working much, much harder, and its taking a few minutes. People then get fed up with waiting, so constantly hit refresh, giving the server yet more requests to deal with.

Bringing db to single user or lock mode is a must in all databases unless a new technology is introduced.. However, although expensive there are some alternative solutions like replicated/image backup but not sure this is a must or priority now..

just my opinion, stopping the old site and giving all efforts to the new one will be easier imo..And will decrease the server activity on disks ..

And from my experience, I always prefer to back up(sql) at late midnight hours , and during the day time, write the inserts, updates and deletes on sequential log files in case of a recovery necessity..

Cem, I have too say mate your English is Brilliant. I used to read some of your posts twice to sometimes understand them, but now they are perfect :y

You also need a Badge as big as a Dustbin Lid to understand Jammie  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 21:03:04
Bringing db to single user or lock mode is a must in all databases unless a new technology is introduced.. However, although expensive there are some alternative solutions like replicated/image backup but not sure this is a must or priority now..

And from my experience, I always prefer to back up(sql) at late midnight hours , and during the day time, write the inserts, updates and deletes on sequential log files in case of a recovery necessity..
Plan A is replicate to another server, then back that up.

As to hourly backups, probably not that important in the scale of things. Temporarily set to a single middle-of-night backup.  Also, at last crash (8:10pm), I increase the RAM by 50%, as that was the biggest issue...
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 September 2011, 21:07:52
I didn't see it mentioned before, but has anyone else noticed that the server seems to go AWOL for ~5 minutes at a time every now and then?
Yeah, we know what causes it, and was aware the day before migration.

We have a couple of options available, but are still trying to get a baseline, so we know if any tweaks improve the situation or not.

Is it every time I view a page that's causing it? :-X  ::)  :)
Yeah, its all you rather fault, gayboy :P


In layman terms:
Its the hourly backups

For those that understand, to get a point-in-time backup of the database (and it has to be point-in-time to maintain consistency), it is necessary to lock the database tables before the backup starts, and release the locks when its complete. In testing, this was taking less than 30s, which we thought we would get away with.  Now traffic has ramped up, and an unexpected high number of users still browsing the old YaBB site, the server is working much, much harder, and its taking a few minutes. People then get fed up with waiting, so constantly hit refresh, giving the server yet more requests to deal with.

Bringing db to single user or lock mode is a must in all databases unless a new technology is introduced.. However, although expensive there are some alternative solutions like replicated/image backup but not sure this is a must or priority now..

just my opinion, stopping the old site and giving all efforts to the new one will be easier imo..And will decrease the server activity on disks ..

And from my experience, I always prefer to back up(sql) at late midnight hours , and during the day time, write the inserts, updates and deletes on sequential log files in case of a recovery necessity..

Cem, I have too say mate your English is Brilliant. I used to read some of your posts twice to sometimes understand them, but now they are perfect :y

You also need a Badge as big as a Dustbin Lid to understand Jammie  ;D ;D ;D

Thanks Darth  :) :y :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 September 2011, 21:17:45
Bringing db to single user or lock mode is a must in all databases unless a new technology is introduced.. However, although expensive there are some alternative solutions like replicated/image backup but not sure this is a must or priority now..

And from my experience, I always prefer to back up(sql) at late midnight hours , and during the day time, write the inserts, updates and deletes on sequential log files in case of a recovery necessity..
Plan A is replicate to another server, then back that up.

As to hourly backups, probably not that important in the scale of things. Temporarily set to a single middle-of-night backup.  Also, at last crash (8:10pm), I increase the RAM by 50%, as that was the biggest issue...

Plan A is  :y  (replication alternative scenarios check may be necessary will take time)

agreed.. hourly sql backups not necessary..

few months  ago I tested (it was production actually ;D) ordinary SSD disks (Kingston) on a server.. although everyone was against and the marketing people recommend expensive server type SSDs (which are silly expensive) I tried 3 SSDs on a server.. 2 are mirror (boot) and 1 for data .. it was really fast and I can recommend them.. must mention read lots of papers about them.. and considerably long time is necessary to see some erroneous memory blocks.. so , you can use them for either virtual memory or other purposes :y



Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: jonnycool on 25 September 2011, 21:19:25
Are you still talking English Cem?  ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 21:20:54
few months  ago I tested (it was production actually ;D) ordinary SSD disks (Kingston) on a server.. although everyone was against and the marketing people recommend expensive server type SSDs (which are silly expensive) I tried 3 SSDs on a server.. 2 are mirror (boot) and 1 for data .. it was really fast and I can recommend them.. must mention read lots of papers about them.. and considerably long time is necessary to see some erroneous memory blocks.. so , you can use them for either virtual memory or other purposes :y
We run an HP SMART Array P400 disk controller, which may be a bit fussy on SSDs...  ...lot of money on something that might not work...
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 September 2011, 21:22:28
Are you still talking English Cem?  ;D

 ;D I hope so :-[
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 September 2011, 21:26:32
few months  ago I tested (it was production actually ;D) ordinary SSD disks (Kingston) on a server.. although everyone was against and the marketing people recommend expensive server type SSDs (which are silly expensive) I tried 3 SSDs on a server.. 2 are mirror (boot) and 1 for data .. it was really fast and I can recommend them.. must mention read lots of papers about them.. and considerably long time is necessary to see some erroneous memory blocks.. so , you can use them for either virtual memory or other purposes :y
We run an HP SMART Array P400 disk controller, which may be a bit fussy on SSDs...  ...lot of money on something that might not work...

hmmm... Hp :-\  I'm also not sure about them.. when searching they (marketing people) also confused me and tried to sell very expensive array control card and disks for SSD configuration..(I show them the door as a result)  and then I go for OEM.. no probs so far..

and one more point, I see we put real economic burden on your head :-[
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 25 September 2011, 21:27:18
Are you still talking English Cem?  ;D

Nope, Computer Jargon :D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 21:38:29
I now have two PM,s that I need to reply to but cant.I believe Twiglet had a similar problem earlier today.Anyone know why ?
Does it apply to everyone all the time ? A glitch ?....... :-\
its a restriction we have in place to protect the server. As time goes on, there may be an opportunity to increase this figure, but there will always be a restriction
Following today's problems, we are certainly going to have to delay an increases for a few days.

This software is still new to us, and we still have to learn all the interelationships, and how they impact performance and stability of the site. Please bear with us.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Vamps on 25 September 2011, 21:40:35
What about that clock, it has to go.......nearly 8 hours on this new forum, looks bad..... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2011, 21:41:37
What about that clock, it has to go.......nearly 8 hours on this new forum, looks bad..... :'( :'( :'(
Collapse that panel, problem solved ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Vamps on 25 September 2011, 21:46:07
What about that clock, it has to go.......nearly 8 hours on this new forum, looks bad..... :'( :'( :'(
Collapse that panel, problem solved ;)

Sorted, thanks TB.... :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Entwood on 25 September 2011, 21:57:40
I don't know how.. or even if... it impacts on server time/resources but I don't see much point in the list at the top of every sub-forum/topic of the folks who are reading that page .....:(  IMHO it is totally pointless !!!

If it makes no difference to performance then fine . but it could be a way of reducing standing loads ??
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Vamps on 25 September 2011, 22:01:05
I don't know how.. or even if... it impacts on server time/resources but I don't see much point in the list at the top of every sub-forum/topic of the folks who are reading that page .....:(  IMHO it is totally pointless !!!

If it makes no difference to performance then fine . but it could be a way of reducing standing loads ??

Where is that?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Entwood on 25 September 2011, 22:01:51
I don't know how.. or even if... it impacts on server time/resources but I don't see much point in the list at the top of every sub-forum/topic of the folks who are reading that page .....:(  IMHO it is totally pointless !!!

If it makes no difference to performance then fine . but it could be a way of reducing standing loads ??

Where is that?

First line under the blue "topic" line on every page .. :(
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Vamps on 25 September 2011, 22:02:49
I don't know how.. or even if... it impacts on server time/resources but I don't see much point in the list at the top of every sub-forum/topic of the folks who are reading that page .....:(  IMHO it is totally pointless !!!

If it makes no difference to performance then fine . but it could be a way of reducing standing loads ??

Where is that?

First line under the blue "topic" line on every page .. :(

Have seen it now, just not noticed it before... ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 26 September 2011, 12:26:53
This slow sever issue is becoming a bit of a bind. Managed to loose a couple of posts somehow. Had hoped those days where gone.  :(

Although I would appologise for my lack of patience and realize all is being done that can be.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 26 September 2011, 12:44:03
I don't know how.. or even if... it impacts on server time/resources but I don't see much point in the list at the top of every sub-forum/topic of the folks who are reading that page .....:(  IMHO it is totally pointless !!!

If it makes no difference to performance then fine . but it could be a way of reducing standing loads ??
Usefulness is one thing, but I find it interesting to see who's reading what and when.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 26 September 2011, 12:48:29
I don't know how.. or even if... it impacts on server time/resources but I don't see much point in the list at the top of every sub-forum/topic of the folks who are reading that page .....:(  IMHO it is totally pointless !!!

If it makes no difference to performance then fine . but it could be a way of reducing standing loads ??
Usefulness is one thing, but I find it interesting to see who's reading what and when.

Admin team always had it on old site, here its all or noone.

May not add a lot of usefulness, but the voyeur in me likes it ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 26 September 2011, 12:52:17
Is there a way of turning on 'favourites' to bookmark sites?  no big deal as any browser can store bookmarks, but the portablility was nice.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: aaronjb on 26 September 2011, 12:55:54
Is there a way of turning on 'favourites' to bookmark sites?  no big deal as any browser can store bookmarks, but the portablility was nice.

There's always Xmarks/Foxmarks/etc if you want to sync bookmarks between computers..
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 26 September 2011, 12:57:35
Is there a way of turning on 'favourites' to bookmark sites?  no big deal as any browser can store bookmarks, but the portablility was nice.

There's always Xmarks/Foxmarks/etc if you want to sync bookmarks between computers..

aye, theres allsorts, not always possible though when using friends / work computers.

plus the search here is so much better, may not even need them anyway.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2011, 21:34:01
This slow sever issue is becoming a bit of a bind. Managed to loose a couple of posts somehow. Had hoped those days where gone.  :(

Although I would appologise for my lack of patience and realize all is being done that can be.
Yeah, I know its a PITA. For that I can only apologise. Not entirely sure what trigger is, not the backups as first thought.

please bear with us whilst we track down the cause. Its a new learning experience for the admin team as well, and this didn't show up in our testing
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2011, 21:35:01
Is there a way of turning on 'favourites' to bookmark sites?  no big deal as any browser can store bookmarks, but the portablility was nice.

There's always Xmarks/Foxmarks/etc if you want to sync bookmarks between computers..

aye, theres allsorts, not always possible though when using friends / work computers.

plus the search here is so much better, may not even need them anyway.
search should improve once I finish the search index, but I've paused it due to server stability
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: humbucker on 26 September 2011, 21:40:51
i signed up on the original OOF website a few years ago and changed my username a year or so ago. i can  only log into the new website with my original username, despite it displaying my new username.   ???
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: aaronjb on 26 September 2011, 21:44:58
i signed up on the original OOF website a few years ago and changed my username a year or so ago. i can  only log into the new website with my original username, despite it displaying my new username.   ???

That's to be expected - TB had a (long) post about it at the top of every forum on the YaBB powered site for about a week prior to the switchover..
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2011, 21:47:53
i signed up on the original OOF website a few years ago and changed my username a year or so ago. i can  only log into the new website with my original username, despite it displaying my new username.   ???
No, you never changed your username - you can't. You changed your display name ;)

the new software only allows you to log on with your username, whereas YaBB allowed you to log on with your email, username or display name.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: jonnycool on 26 September 2011, 21:58:17
How do I stop email notification for every topic I get notified for? Had a look but can't see how to switch it off  :-[
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Nickbat on 26 September 2011, 22:07:21
How do I stop email notification for every topic I get notified for? Had a look but can't see how to switch it off  :-[
Profile>Modify Profile>Notifications>Uncheck Box  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 27 September 2011, 17:42:51
When I have posted and then want to return to that board rather than return to the home page,I dont seem to be able to do it.
Im probably missing something....... :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 27 September 2011, 17:44:02
Just seen it - click on gen discussion (for example) bottom right. :-[
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 27 September 2011, 19:29:01
This limit of 5 PM,s per hour is a real nuisance. Must be even worse for admins. :o
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2011, 19:49:24
This limit of 5 PM,s per hour is a real nuisance. Must be even worse for admins. :o
I know. But until we can get the site stable, its one of the protective measures we have to take.

I was shocked how many PMS were I  use when we migrated - that's the only time we've ever seen a proper count. And remember, that didn't include the 'storage' boxes that could not be migrated.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 27 September 2011, 23:10:51
This limit of 5 PM,s per hour is a real nuisance. Must be even worse for admins. :o
I know. But until we can get the site stable, its one of the protective measures we have to take.

I was shocked how many PMS were I  use when we migrated - that's the only time we've ever seen a proper count. And remember, that didn't include the 'storage' boxes that could not be migrated.

Fair enough then. :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 September 2011, 09:11:46
No problems here  :y

Any chance of a "edit" button ?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 28 September 2011, 10:54:30
No problems here  :y

Any chance of a "edit" button ?
As said in lots of threads, possibly this one, the built in function doesn't seem to work in the way we need it to, so that needs investigation. But it's a fair way down the priority list I'm afraid, as I have so much other modifications and scripts to rewrite first
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 September 2011, 12:47:38
No problems here  :y

Any chance of a "edit" button ?
As said in lots of threads, possibly this one, the built in function doesn't seem to work in the way we need it to, so that needs investigation. But it's a fair way down the priority list I'm afraid, as I have so much other modifications and scripts to rewrite first


I have been using a mobile for a while so I have not been reading all the threads  :-[

Just posting the odd word now and again untill I get my laptop back  :)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Entwood on 29 September 2011, 22:54:35
It's a very minor point, and probably very, very low on any priority list .... but in the list of active members on the "front" page ... Daz appears in the same colour as all the rest of us plebs .... KW, H21 etc have a nice subtle difference in appearance......  :) I know they are "global" mods and Daz has not reached such exalted heights ....but his contribution to the forum is important and should be highlighted IMHO ( must be able to make his name pink surely ???  :)  )
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: hotel21 on 29 September 2011, 23:01:48
It's a very minor point, and probably very, very low on any priority list .... but in the list of active members on the "front" page ... Daz appears in the same colour as all the rest of us plebs .... KW, H21 etc have a nice subtle difference in appearance......  :) I know they are "global" mods and Daz has not reached such exalted heights ....but his contribution to the forum is important and should be highlighted IMHO ( must be able to make his name pink surely ???  :)  )
Yup, already noted and in process of being actioned.   :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 29 September 2011, 23:03:30
It's a very minor point, and probably very, very low on any priority list .... but in the list of active members on the "front" page ... Daz appears in the same colour as all the rest of us plebs .... KW, H21 etc have a nice subtle difference in appearance......  :) I know they are "global" mods and Daz has not reached such exalted heights ....but his contribution to the forum is important and should be highlighted IMHO ( must be able to make his name pink surely ???  :)  )

I am not an Adult, I aren't (stamping my feet) I will tell my Dad of you  ;D :P
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 29 September 2011, 23:04:15
It's a very minor point, and probably very, very low on any priority list .... but in the list of active members on the "front" page ... Daz appears in the same colour as all the rest of us plebs .... KW, H21 etc have a nice subtle difference in appearance......  :) I know they are "global" mods and Daz has not reached such exalted heights ....but his contribution to the forum is important and should be highlighted IMHO ( must be able to make his name pink surely ???  :)  )
Yup, already noted and in process of being actioned.   :y

Is it? Oh Daddy I do love you  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 30 September 2011, 00:37:13
It's a very minor point, and probably very, very low on any priority list .... but in the list of active members on the "front" page ... Daz appears in the same colour as all the rest of us plebs .... KW, H21 etc have a nice subtle difference in appearance......  :) I know they are "global" mods and Daz has not reached such exalted heights ....but his contribution to the forum is important and should be highlighted IMHO ( must be able to make his name pink surely ???  :)  )
Yup, already noted and in process of being actioned.   :y

Is it? Oh Daddy I do love you  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Pmsl, insets surely? ;D

An even more minor point. Can the admin team have thier names highlighted in the approprite colour in thier profiles. Vitally important this one obviously. ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 30 September 2011, 08:24:35
Performance has really picked up lately, its super fast this morning. Noticed it either loads instantly or times out occupationally. 
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 30 September 2011, 08:30:27
Performance has really picked up lately, its super fast this morning. Noticed it either loads instantly or times out occupationally. 

Sounds painful!
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 30 September 2011, 08:33:27
D'oH! Where on earth did that come from!?

Occasionally I find the site times out...
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 30 September 2011, 11:11:20
I just had an outage for an hour or so. Presumably, so did everyone else ?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 30 September 2011, 11:12:13
Yup same here, just after saying performance was better  ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 30 September 2011, 11:14:30
The law of sod ? ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Auto Addict on 30 September 2011, 12:36:28
Blame it on tunnie :D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: albitz on 30 September 2011, 14:01:37
I see it is now possible to see what each person online is viewing. I also noticed that guests are able to do the same thing.Could this cause problems ? :-\
I noticed earlier that 6 (iirc) guests were viewing a members profile, and shortly after that 3 guests were viewing my profile. Not sure if thats a good idea ? :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 September 2011, 14:07:52
when I looked , I see some guests are viewing some members  ??? profile..  :-X
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 September 2011, 14:13:50
Probably just search engines. You can't see much profile information as a guest. ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Shark1e on 30 September 2011, 14:47:44
Not that highlight works - I'm on that as well!
Fixed

Typo, sorry. It seems that highlight is too difficult for an idiot to type...   ...didn't the computer know what I meant? :P

is the posted edit rights restored as i still don't have them
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 30 September 2011, 15:03:29
I see it is now possible to see what each person online is viewing. I also noticed that guests are able to do the same thing.Could this cause problems ? :-\
I noticed earlier that 6 (iirc) guests were viewing a members profile, and shortly after that 3 guests were viewing my profile. Not sure if thats a good idea ? :-\
Yeah, it went PT. Sorry. Took me about 45mins to persuade it to behave.  Now, if Sammy was available......

Guests can see very little info in profiles, its not deemed a problem.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 30 September 2011, 15:05:29
Not that highlight works - I'm on that as well!
Fixed

Typo, sorry. It seems that highlight is too difficult for an idiot to type...   ...didn't the computer know what I meant? :P

is the posted edit rights restored as i still don't have them
Nope, not yet  :-[.  Its a fair way down the priority list at the moment, unless people can point out something fundamental that I've misunderstood about how important it is  :-\
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 30 September 2011, 15:08:11
Not that highlight works - I'm on that as well!
Fixed

Typo, sorry. It seems that highlight is too difficult for an idiot to type...   ...didn't the computer know what I meant? :P

is the posted edit rights restored as i still don't have them
Nope, not yet  :-[.  Its a fair way down the priority list at the moment, unless people can point out something fundamental that I've misunderstood about how important it is  :-\

If anything its a good thing, it will make people (me included) proof read posts more before clicking. Loads of people modifying posts, must put extra load I'm sure on the web server/database.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: aaronjb on 30 September 2011, 15:22:16
Not that highlight works - I'm on that as well!
Fixed

Typo, sorry. It seems that highlight is too difficult for an idiot to type...   ...didn't the computer know what I meant? :P

is the posted edit rights restored as i still don't have them
Nope, not yet  :-[.  Its a fair way down the priority list at the moment, unless people can point out something fundamental that I've misunderstood about how important it is  :-\

The fact that nobody here can type? ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 30 September 2011, 15:50:37
Not that highlight works - I'm on that as well!
Fixed

Typo, sorry. It seems that highlight is too difficult for an idiot to type...   ...didn't the computer know what I meant? :P

is the posted edit rights restored as i still don't have them
Nope, not yet  :-[.  Its a fair way down the priority list at the moment, unless people can point out something fundamental that I've misunderstood about how important it is  :-\

The fact that nobody here can type? ;)
Myself included!
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: aaronjb on 30 September 2011, 15:53:24
Myself included!

Well.. I didn't like to point fingers ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: blackviper90210 on 01 October 2011, 02:07:56
Firstly, I'd like to say thanks to the Admin staff for doing a fine & dandy job on running this forum. I hold my hat off to you all  :y

Now you'll have to excuse my stupidity,  ::)     I've played with my account settings regarding notifications, I get emails letting me know about posts I'm watching, but when I come onto the website, I don't have the notification window pop up taking me to the notifications section  ???
Have I not done something or does it not apply anymore?

Now being completly lazy, can the "notifications" tab be added on the main page along with Home, Help etc? Rather than go through "profile"?

If I'm going to be shot for asking, please make it in the head once, rather than be shot over and over again  ;)

Thank you O'mighty Admin  :y

Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 October 2011, 10:23:49
blackviper - AFAIK (this software is new for the Admin Team as well, so we're still finding our way around it as well), the notification system is purely email...   ...unless it appear above the tabs (ie, by your avatar)? (I collapse this section, so not that clear what happens in there)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: RobG on 01 October 2011, 14:55:48
Firstly, I'd like to say thanks to the Admin staff for doing a fine & dandy job on running this forum. I hold my hat off to you all  :y

Now you'll have to excuse my stupidity,  ::)     I've played with my account settings regarding notifications, I get emails letting me know about posts I'm watching, but when I come onto the website, I don't have the notification window pop up taking me to the notifications section  ???
Have I not done something or does it not apply anymore?

Now being completly lazy, can the "notifications" tab be added on the main page along with Home, Help etc? Rather than go through "profile"?

If I'm going to be shot for asking, please make it in the head once, rather than be shot over and over again  ;)

Thank you O'mighty Admin  :y
Profile..........Modify Profile............Instant Messaging............check box to allow pop-up notifications
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: MaxV6 on 01 October 2011, 18:08:57
keep getting outtages, failure to load page,   no apparent pattern, just log go to open link to forum (new) and it sits there ....
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 October 2011, 20:00:33
keep getting outtages, failure to load page,   no apparent pattern, just log go to open link to forum (new) and it sits there ....
yeah, we're having issues
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Paddy Flannery on 02 October 2011, 12:26:05
As above. Keep getting kicked out. My connection to internet is sound as I can go on any other site I please while trying to get into OOF. I'm sure you'll iron out these wee problems. Cheers
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: blackviper90210 on 02 October 2011, 20:29:44
blackviper - AFAIK (this software is new for the Admin Team as well, so we're still finding our way around it as well), the notification system is purely email...   ...unless it appear above the tabs (ie, by your avatar)? (I collapse this section, so not that clear what happens in there)
Hi TB, thanks for that. I'm not complaining about it, was just wondering if it was an "option"

I know nothing about running websites and have the utmost respect for anyone (especially you guys), who run these sites/forums! If it's just purely email, then thats the way it is.

Thanks for all the hard work you guys do, for all us "OOFers"  :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 02 October 2011, 22:03:49
Where does this code keep coming from in my "Drives" profile?

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Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2011, 09:16:43
Where does this code keep coming from in my "Drives" profile?

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Apostrophes maybe? Wonder if the software doesn't decode properly, or it gets messed up in the database (text containing apostrophes need special conversions when stored in databases).

Try without apostrophes, see if that cures it, then we can investigate a fix :)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 10:13:21
I'm having an issue with PMs using OOF at work which runs IE 6 without Java (Dont ask!)

I bet it is because our IT system is in the stone age but was wondering if anyone else was having issues.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2011, 10:49:43
I'm having an issue with PMs using OOF at work which runs IE 6 without Java (Dont ask!)

I bet it is because our IT system is in the stone age but was wondering if anyone else was having issues.
Sorry, don't have an IE6 to test with.

AFAIK, the software doesn't use Java at all, though does make a lot of use of Javascript (completely unrelated to Java, despite name)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 11:35:25
I found some IE6 issues in testing, ill play some more....

But it will be a case of 'unlucky' in this day and age.

can you be specific with the problem?  pm if you want
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 11:38:33
can you be specific with the problem?  pm if you want

Ha ha, you sooooo funny Monsieur Trois Nichons  ;D ;D ;D

I'll take some screeshots, send then home and post them on here over lunch.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 11:39:23
can you be specific with the problem?  pm if you want

Ha ha, you sooooo funny Monsieur Trois Nichons  ;D ;D ;D

I'll take some screeshots, send then home and post them on here over lunch.

You didnt say the issue was THAT serious :D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 11:45:59
Done some tests myself..

No..To Line
No..Subject Line
Icons all over the place.

did appear to send ok though.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 11:49:22
Mine doesnt even show the inbox/outbox and when sending a new one I get a text field with no caption, buttons or anything that suggests how to use it.  The images I have taken will explain better  :y

Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 October 2011, 11:57:34
The only issue I have seen is that a few members still seem to be here eh Guffer!

I thought we discussed this at length TB  ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 12:39:25
for me it appears as :

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa229/littlejimmym/misc%20car/ie6.jpg)

but its ie6, should be dead, but I know a few of us are stuck with it.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2011, 13:02:47
Not much we can do about IE6.  Too old and crusty.

Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 13:05:43
Bugger, the emails I sent from work havent come through yet.  I'll have to show the screenshots tonight instead.

The reason I noticed about the PMs was that I was about to send one about the mini-meet  ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 13:06:16
The only issue I have seen is that a few members still seem to be here eh Guffer!

I thought we discussed this at length TB  ;D ;D

Oooo one less Christmas card to send this year  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2011, 13:10:25
The only issue I have seen is that a few members still seem to be here eh Guffer!

I thought we discussed this at length TB  ;D ;D
Until my mate pinky get's his kidnapped crocks back, I'm trying to be nice to that thieving Melchett
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 13:21:08
The only issue I have seen is that a few members still seem to be here eh Guffer!

I thought we discussed this at length TB  ;D ;D
Until my mate pinky get's his kidnapped crocks back, I'm trying to be nice to that thieving Melchett

[spannish voice on] I know nothing!  ::) ::) [/voice]
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 13:27:40
Oh and because of this 5 PM/hr limit only a few people have recived the invitation so far  ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 03 October 2011, 16:04:12
Found another issue.... My avatar seems to have changed itself again :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 16:06:05
Found another issue.... My avatar seems to have changed itself again :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D

<--------   Obviously the new software makes it easier for the admins to change our profiles ::) ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 16:08:32
Found another issue.... My avatar seems to have changed itself again :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 03 October 2011, 16:13:45
Found another issue.... My avatar seems to have changed itself again :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Laugh all you like... You're under suspicion >:( >:( :D :D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 16:16:22
Found another issue.... My avatar seems to have changed itself again :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Laugh all you like... You're under suspicion >:( >:( :D :D

LD, the admins on here are such children, it's a good job that there are grown-ups like you and I on here to bring the standard up to an adult level.  Otherwise this would be just a playground like any other car forum  ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: tunnie on 03 October 2011, 16:17:58
Found another issue.... My avatar seems to have changed itself again :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D

<--------   Obviously the new software makes it easier for the admins to change our profiles ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 03 October 2011, 16:24:19
Found another issue.... My avatar seems to have changed itself again :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Laugh all you like... You're under suspicion >:( >:( :D :D

LD, the admins on here are such children, it's a good job that there are grown-ups like you and I on here to bring the standard up to an adult level.  Otherwise this would be just a playground like any other car forum  ::)
I might have to complain to the Court of Yumin Rights as they keep bullying me ::) ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: LJay on 03 October 2011, 16:33:01
Found another issue.... My avatar seems to have changed itself again :-X :-X ::) ::) ;D ;D

If the cap avatar fits!  ::) :-X
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 03 October 2011, 16:38:08
Ah, Mr and Mrs Bump....are you two an item? ;D :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 16:41:03
*sits back and waits for Mrs Cakey to arrive*
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: LJay on 03 October 2011, 16:55:51
Ah, Mr and Mrs Bump....are you two an item? ;D :y

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 03 October 2011, 17:12:22
Threesome anyone?  ;D.


 Wtf's going on, again? Berloody admins!  ::).
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 17:19:51
 :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Mrs Cakey on 03 October 2011, 17:22:34
Ah, Mr and Mrs Bump....are you two an item? ;D :y
They'd better not be! >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Mrs Cakey on 03 October 2011, 17:23:06
*sits back and waits for Mrs Cakey to arrive*
You called?
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 03 October 2011, 17:23:36
:o :o :o :o :o
Your not funny Mr Greedy. Not big and not clever.....    ..... ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 17:28:28
:o :o :o :o :o
Your not funny Mr Greedy. Not big and not clever.....    ..... ;D

 :o

Need ya eyes testing  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: LJay on 03 October 2011, 17:36:24
Threesome anyone?  ;D.


 Wtf's going on, again? Berloody admins!  ::).

Hmmm let me think........ :-X :-* ;D



........pretty sure Mr Greedy would have something to say about that! ;) ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 03 October 2011, 17:38:22
Threesome anyone?  ;D.


 Wtf's going on, again? Berloody admins!  ::).

Hmmm let me think........ :-X :-* ;D



........pretty sure Mr Greedy would have something to say about that! ;) ;D

Probably "Can I watch?" ::) ::) :D :D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 17:39:45
 :o :o :o 8)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: LJay on 03 October 2011, 17:41:50
Threesome anyone?  ;D.


 Wtf's going on, again? Berloody admins!  ::).

Hmmm let me think........ :-X :-* ;D



........pretty sure Mr Greedy would have something to say about that! ;) ;D

Probably "Can I watch?" ::) ::) :D :D

Now that's just wrong!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Jimbob on 03 October 2011, 17:50:13
Threesome anyone?  ;D.


 Wtf's going on, again? Berloody admins!  ::).

Hmmm let me think........ :-X :-* ;D



........pretty sure Mr Greedy would have something to say about that! ;) ;D

Probably "Can I watch?" ::) ::) :D :D

Now that's just wrong!  ;D ;D

Course its wrong!

I'd be recording it for pay per view  :y  :D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 03 October 2011, 17:50:42
Threesome anyone?  ;D.


 Wtf's going on, again? Berloody admins!  ::).

Hmmm let me think........ :-X :-* ;D



........pretty sure Mr Greedy would have something to say about that! ;) ;D

Probably "Can I watch?" ::) ::) :D :D

Now that's just wrong!  ;D ;D
I didn't say it was right... But are you trying to tell me that those wouldn't be the first words that came out of his mouth? ??? ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Lazydocker on 03 October 2011, 17:51:14
Course its wrong!

I'd be recording it for pay per view  :y  :D
I rest my case ::) ::)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 18:40:51
*sits back and waits for Mrs Cakey to arrive*
You called?

Keep going I have plenty of popcorn, unless it becomes a foursome in which case I'll swap the popcorn for something else....
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: LJay on 03 October 2011, 18:44:47
*sits back and waits for Mrs Cakey to arrive*
You called?

Keep going I have plenty of popcorn, unless it becomes a foursome in which case I'll swap the popcorn for something else....

Stop stirring you!  You're just jealous cos you're not getting a Mr Bump!  ;) :-* A ''threesome'' is plenty! :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 18:50:48
It'll increase income off of the pay-per-view ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Mrs Cakey on 03 October 2011, 18:52:17
Well in that case....... :-X
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2011, 19:57:16
*sits back and waits for Mrs Cakey to arrive*
You called?

Keep going I have plenty of popcorn, unless it becomes a foursome in which case I'll swap the popcorn for something else....

Stop stirring you!  You're just jealous cos you're not getting a Mr Bump!  ;) :-* A ''threesome'' is plenty! :y
he should be a bump - he drove into Kevin wood's garage door ;D
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 20:28:52
*sits back and waits for Mrs Cakey to arrive*
You called?

Keep going I have plenty of popcorn, unless it becomes a foursome in which case I'll swap the popcorn for something else....

Stop stirring you!  You're just jealous cos you're not getting a Mr Bump!  ;) :-* A ''threesome'' is plenty! :y
he should be a bump - he drove into Kevin wood's garage door ;D

I am pretty sure it moved while I was manoeuvring  ::)

Besides you can't make me a bump, you like my arse too much :-*
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: CaptainZok on 03 October 2011, 20:33:50
*sits back and waits for Mrs Cakey to arrive*
You called?

Keep going I have plenty of popcorn, unless it becomes a foursome in which case I'll swap the popcorn for something else....

Stop stirring you!  You're just jealous cos you're not getting a Mr Bump!  ;) :-* A ''threesome'' is plenty! :y
he should be a bump - he drove into Kevin wood's garage door ;D

I am pretty sure it moved while I was manoeuvring  ::)

Besides you can't make me a bump, you like my arse too much :-*
Are you sure you joined the right bit of the services Meltchett??
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: LJay on 03 October 2011, 20:46:25
*sits back and waits for Mrs Cakey to arrive*
You called?

Keep going I have plenty of popcorn, unless it becomes a foursome in which case I'll swap the popcorn for something else....

Stop stirring you!  You're just jealous cos you're not getting a Mr Bump!  ;) :-* A ''threesome'' is plenty! :y
he should be a bump - he drove into Kevin wood's garage door ;D

I am pretty sure it moved while I was manoeuvring  ::)

Besides you can't make me a bump, you like my arse too much :-*

Hmm so you have a nice arse, can't say i noticed! (note to self - pay more attention next time!) ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 03 October 2011, 21:59:58
Could have sworn I saw you looking ;)
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 04 October 2011, 07:56:38
Anyway enough hijacking of this thread children  ::)

This is what I see at work:

Inbox:

(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/mrgaffney/inbox1.jpg)

If I scroll down:

(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/mrgaffney/inbox2.jpg)

New message:

(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/mrgaffney/new.jpg)

Bizarre!
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: LJay on 04 October 2011, 08:42:42
Sorry but arse's and threesomes are far more interesting! :P
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 04 October 2011, 18:45:56
Sorry but arse's and threesomes are far more interesting! :P
Definately :y
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 04 October 2011, 18:47:31
Anyway enough hijacking of this thread children  ::)

This is what I see at work:

Inbox:

(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/mrgaffney/inbox1.jpg)

If I scroll down:

(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/mrgaffney/inbox2.jpg)

New message:

(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll138/mrgaffney/new.jpg)

Bizarre!
The amount of work to fix an unsupported browser might make it unlikey.

When I get a test site up again, I might ask you to test something - I have a theory to a possible fix...
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: Gaffers on 04 October 2011, 21:26:03
 :y :y

Not fussed for myself, I should be working anyway but I was concerned others using archaic browsers like mine
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 04 October 2011, 21:38:29
:y :y

Not fussed for myself, I should be working anyway but I was concerned others using archaic browsers like mine
Its a balancing act - the developers want to provide a modern experience, yet still support common broswers. IE6 (or 5, or 4 - yes, our logs still say they are out there, though I suspect many of these hits are masquarading as these browsers) is unsupported by its vendor, so web site developers rightly say they can't supoort it.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 05 October 2011, 22:23:13
The more I use this new software, the more I think it's a shame yabb didn't keep up with development. I miss the appearance of yabb, but this is so much better in practical terms. Minor glitches aside of course.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2011, 18:38:21
The more I use this new software, the more I think it's a shame yabb didn't keep up with development. I miss the appearance of yabb, but this is so much better in practical terms. Minor glitches aside of course.
Yeah, the clean, simple lines of YaBB made it easy/clear/usable.

We should have done this upgrade before last Christmas, but a new YaBB was looking a real possibility then (you know, you did some minor testing for me), so we delayed and delayed. Which backed us in a nasty corner, and I had to buy a new, more powerful, server as an interim bodge to keep us running  :'(

There is some hope for YaBB, which I'm not allowed to ellaborate on, but it will still be months off, even if it doesn't happen. OOF couldn't survive that in its previous form.


It was a desperately hard decision for the Admin Team to make to dump YaBB, but in reality, it was the only move we could make. It was bad for both parties - we have to learn new software, write new back-end scripts and processes, and understand the complex interdependencies of this type of system. YaBB loses one of its showcase sites - we were one of the largest (almost) standard YaBBs out there, and proving that YaBB could run quickly and reliably with really modest resources.


SMF offers us much better scalability, fits in (mostly) with our requirements, and offers far more options should we need to change again in the future.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 06 October 2011, 18:44:18
There is some hope for YaBB, which I'm not allowed to ellaborate on, but it will still be months off, even if it doesn't happen. OOF couldn't survive that in its previous form.
I'll clarify that slightly, as I know many YaBB forum owners are looking at how successful our migration has been.

YaBB, as it stands, is dead - cue Monty Python Dead Parrot sketch.  It has been slowly, possibly intentionally, killed by keeping it on its current host that cannot run it. This ensures no new forums have used it (when the support forum for it is so slow and unreliable, yet modestly sized, and not busy), so no new blood, no new developers.  Currently, it has no Global Moderators, and 1 Administrator who rarely logs on. Its dead. Finished. Over.

But there might be a small band of people willing to resurrect a version of it again  :-X
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: justjohn on 07 October 2011, 11:19:44
Corey Chapmans last post basically say's it may be dead by Christmas.

YaBB is cracking software, methinks the problem is in the lack of coders who know how to code MySql.

A lot of the people code Perl and might not be up to speed on other systems, if it does not get some new, young or experienced coders it looks like it will be dead in the water.

Once you change to SMF I don't think folk will go back to YaBB unless a miracle happens with the staff behind the scenes.
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: TheBoy on 07 October 2011, 12:01:13
Corey Chapmans last post basically say's it may be dead by Christmas.

YaBB is cracking software, methinks the problem is in the lack of coders who know how to code MySql.

A lot of the people code Perl and might not be up to speed on other systems, if it does not get some new, young or experienced coders it looks like it will be dead in the water.

Once you change to SMF I don't think folk will go back to YaBB unless a miracle happens with the staff behind the scenes.
I saw Corey's post last night. The final nail in the coffin  :'(

I think part of the issue is the change from flatfile to SQL (any variant) is very major to do right (the current Y3 implementation is using the FF structureand accessed/processed in the same way, just the data store in MySQL - incredibly inefficient, worse than FF). So it needs major parts rewriting from scratch.

Perl introduces its own set of issues with databases - additional libraries are needed (and not all hosts will have all the right ones), and its not the fastest/easiest development system for SQL. Which is why there are an awful lot of MySQL based websites using PHP.


I don't think YaBB can recover from where it has gone in the last 15 months.  I really hope I'm proved wrong, as its a fantastic piece of software, and even as-is, perfectly good for small forums - we proved here that, search aside, it can scale to an extent on modest hardware (our VM was allocated 1 vCPU and 1Gb RAM only).
Title: Re: New Look OOF - Problems?
Post by: feeutfo on 07 October 2011, 15:35:07
Sounds like an infighting>big row>strop off> take my toys with me type affair. Shame. But onward onward ever onward. :y