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Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 04 October 2011, 11:31:50
the hbv is done but still got a leak from the back off engine
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: tunnie on 04 October 2011, 11:55:11
its worth checking all the coolant pipes, even a tiny split can pi$$ water everywhere. Common one is the one of the coolant bridge  :y
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: albitz on 04 October 2011, 12:01:12
Oil cooler was changed a few months ago.Im wondering if the mechanic has used the wrong sealant or reused dowty washers or similar. :-\
Need a good torch and possibly a mirror, then take some time and try to see where its coming from.After that its plenum off,and if source cant be seen, the cooling system will need pressurising to see the leak. Pressurising might just be a matter of someone blowing hard into the neck of the header tank, while someone else looks for water spurting out. ;)
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 04 October 2011, 12:04:47
the selant was from vx
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: tunnie on 04 October 2011, 12:06:39
what about dowty washers?

You going to have to take off the plenum and injection manifold, inspect all around the oil cooler and coolant bridge for signs of a leak
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 04 October 2011, 12:07:59
i have never taken the pleneum off
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: tunnie on 04 October 2011, 12:13:05
i have never taken the pleneum off

Well, if you want to find the source of your coolant loss, you will have to. Otherwise i will have to be taken to a garage  :(

Details here:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90657.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90657.0)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90545.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90545.0)
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: albitz on 04 October 2011, 12:25:37
Its not difficult to do Ralf,as long as you have a set of torx sockets ? Just follow the guide,be methodical,take your time, and stuff kitchen roll or similar in the ports until your ready to put the plenum back on.If you drop a bolt or similar down one of the ports it could be a head off job.
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 04 October 2011, 15:03:24
well i cut my finger anyway and the car is going back to the guy who done the oilcooler
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 05 October 2011, 07:50:59
dowdy washers from vx as well
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: albitz on 05 October 2011, 11:39:02
Start with the simpler things - a leak from a hose.May well need to remove plenum and inlet manifold to see it though.
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 05 October 2011, 12:58:55
its going back to the guy who done oilcooler
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 06 October 2011, 18:12:27
just drove car down to the guy who done oilcooler got there at had no water dripping down weird or what
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: Entwood on 06 October 2011, 18:14:58
just drove car down to the guy who done oilcooler got there at had no water dripping down weird or what

HBV's have a tendency to only leak when in a certain position, and that position is dictated by a combination of the ambient temperature, the actual temperature inside the car, and  the selected temperature inside the car.

Might be worth lying with the selected temperature whilst the engine is running .. you may find the leak that way.
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 06 October 2011, 18:19:18
done that after changing hbv valve was dry but still water dripping until today when i drove it there was none dripping
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 09 October 2011, 11:35:38
can anyone in south wales take a plenum off for me dont mind paying for it
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 10 October 2011, 16:25:58
well it looks like the guy is letting me down now text him twice not got back to me he must be getting to much money
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: Andy B on 10 October 2011, 16:31:29
can anyone in south wales take a plenum off for me dont mind paying for it

The plenum is held on by just 4 Torx drive bolts & the bagpipes at the front of the car  ;)
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 10 October 2011, 16:36:46
havent got the sockets so cant do job
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: Andy B on 10 October 2011, 16:47:22
havent got the sockets so cant do job

buy a set, they're not too expensive & they'll come in for other jobs.  ;) Halfords (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_176391_langId_-1_categoryId_255215)
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 10 October 2011, 16:56:47
best way is to get rid of car and save money
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: Andy B on 10 October 2011, 17:00:37
best way is to get rid of car and ......

Your call ........... a bit excessive for a £35 valve.

The plenum can stay put for doing a HBV, it's the plastic scuttle tray & wiper arms that need removing.
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 10 October 2011, 17:05:09
done hbv was not the fault
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 10 October 2011, 17:07:25
and i cant do a lot off work on the car now no grip in the hands anymore hands are gone with arthritis
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: Andy B on 10 October 2011, 17:18:02
and i cant do a lot off work on the car now no grip in the hands anymore hands are gone with arthritis

 :(  :(  :( Sorry to hear about that. Can Iassume that your texts were to James  :-\ if so, he'll get back to you, he's done loads of work for people from this site. Have you tried a pm to him?  :y
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 10 October 2011, 17:40:41
can anyone tell me who james is
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: jonnycool on 10 October 2011, 17:57:01
This fella: http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5519

Bigyin, if I was any good with the spanners mate, I'd be all too happy to help out, wherever you are?

I've got the sockets, just not the skill, but I'm off Thursday and I'll gladly give it a go if you want, seems like a pretty simple job

Jon
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: albitz on 10 October 2011, 18:00:10
Not hard to do.Take plenum (and possibly manifold off) to try to see where water is leaking from.Might be a case of one person blowing hard into the header tank while the other looks for water spurting from somewhere.
Should be plenty of info in the guides section on removing/ refitting plenum. :y
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 October 2011, 12:59:14
= Can Iassume that your texts were to James  :-\

Nope, I've not been in contact with anyone about any problems, or had any texts?

The OP did make contact last night though, so happy to see if I can help.

:y
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 October 2011, 13:03:13
Bigyin54 - just checked, and you are 53 miles from me.

Would your car make it that far? At what rate is it leaking, and is it pressurising or running hot?

If you could get it to me, I'll take an initial look free of charge, which will include any obvious leaks that can be fixed whilst plenum is off.

Cheers
James
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 11 October 2011, 13:20:10
i dont mind paying your petrol if u can get to me its leakin to much for that distance
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 11 October 2011, 13:28:36
or what ever else it costs as i need the car fixed as soon as i can the wife is going stir crazy
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 11 October 2011, 13:34:58
and the wife said she will even make u dinner lol
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 11 October 2011, 13:37:56
It's a few days away, but I might be able to make it down on Sunday?

No need for dinner, just plenty of coffee  :y

Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 11 October 2011, 13:41:10
ok for sunday i give u my adress in a pm
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 October 2011, 15:36:32
Hello mate, I sent you a PM also - I may, possibly, have trouble this weekend. My rad is also dumping coolant!!

I'm going to have to talk nicely to RobG about posting a radiator out to me, cos I don't think I'd make it to Bristol now ::)
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: RobG on 14 October 2011, 16:06:14
Hello mate, I sent you a PM also - I may, possibly, have trouble this weekend. My rad is also dumping coolant!!

I'm going to have to talk nicely to RobG about posting a radiator out to me, cos I don't think I'd make it to Bristol now ::)
Exhaust?
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 October 2011, 16:11:13
I could collect that in person, once I've fitted the Rad and have a roadworthy car?  ;D
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: RobG on 14 October 2011, 16:13:15
I could collect that in person, once I've fitted the Rad and have a roadworthy car?  ;D
Easy enough to post (couple of Kg`s of bubblewrap) ;D
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 October 2011, 16:22:53
I could collect that in person, once I've fitted the Rad and have a roadworthy car?  ;D
Easy enough to post (couple of Kg`s of bubblewrap) ;D

If you want the bubblewrap back, I can bring it when I collect the exhaust ;D
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 16 October 2011, 13:32:18
ok  leak found by james it was one of the pipes going to the cooler bridge so i would lkie to thank james for a brill job and all the guys on here thank you 
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: albitz on 16 October 2011, 15:08:49
GOOD to hear.Glad your back on the road Ralf. :y
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 16 October 2011, 15:52:01
A good result in the end - well done James. :y
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 October 2011, 14:12:42
just to say took car for a run today and not a drop off water lost thanks a lot james its good to have it running again
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: Radar on 17 October 2011, 14:18:21
Was the pipe loose or split etc..?
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 October 2011, 16:41:41
james found a split pipe but long enough to cut the little bit off
Title: Re: cooling
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 October 2011, 16:47:33
its nice to know there are still good people about there are a few who do just want to make money and rip us off i am not talking about anyone on here u are all good guys thanks