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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: joshwyatt on 06 October 2011, 23:22:43

Title: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: joshwyatt on 06 October 2011, 23:22:43
I have a new project Omega, where it's not possible to fit a normal double din Omega unit in the dash...i.e. a ccr 2006, cdr 2005 etc.
Would it be possible to fit a CDR 500 single din in the glovebox, and have the radio controls work?
I know nothing of prefacelift Omega's...but I guess they must have had a CDR 500, I know the Astra G and Vec B did of the same era.
Or are there any other options?
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Lazydocker on 07 October 2011, 06:46:16
As you know Josh, anything is possible  ;)

You'd need to find the ISO plug and aerial from the centre console, extend all the wiring so that it would reach the glovebox and build a suitable mount in there :y

Sounds like an interesting project ::)
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: 2woody on 07 October 2011, 10:36:30
what's in the middle of the dash instead ?
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Dave DND on 07 October 2011, 10:40:17
If you are extending wires to the glovebox to fit a stereo there and not in the dash (no problems with that one) - why not go the whole hog and put something decent in there ?

Seems a lot of work for a really basic CD player  :-\
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: TheBoy on 07 October 2011, 11:04:13
Indeed, possible.

Is this a project that you had considered before? ::)


Dave DND - if you heard JoshWyatts (odd, for such a young chap) choice of music, you'd agree that a cdr500 was overkill :P
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Dave DND on 07 October 2011, 11:13:10
In that case, why not one of these   :P

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/gloucestershire/content/images/2009/04/20/car_2_470_470x313.jpg)
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Lazydocker on 07 October 2011, 11:31:44
In that case, why not one of these   :P

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/gloucestershire/content/images/2009/04/20/car_2_470_470x313.jpg)
That'd work very well for him ;D ;D ;D

Is this a project that you had considered before? ::)
I'm assuming so
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: albitz on 08 October 2011, 12:43:06
Ah,vinyl.The best medium for reprodctioun of music ever invented. :y
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: aaronjb on 08 October 2011, 12:44:36
Ah,vinyl.The best medium for reprodctioun of musicmaking funky melted ashtrays ever invented. :y

Fixed that for you, Albs..  ;D
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: albitz on 08 October 2011, 12:55:41
Philistine.have you no soul ? ::) ;D......just about anyone who is a serious listener to music,listens to it on vinyl when at all possible. :P
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Andy B on 08 October 2011, 16:07:21
Philistine.have you no soul ? ::) ;D......just about anyone who is a serious listener to music,listens to it on vinyl when at all possible. :P

complete with all the crackles & hisses. Is a 78 'better' than an LP cos it's older & crakles & hisses even more?  ::) ::) ::)

You need to move on Albs .......  ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: albitz on 08 October 2011, 16:46:22
Nope,78,s were one of the steps which led to the vinyl record.Why move on from something when it is superior to all that came after it ?
Digital sound is an abomination which can never match the natural warmth of the sound from vinyl on a good setup.
Many people are returningto vinyl now. CD,s were a con by the industry,and MP3 etc. is similar. ;)
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Andy B on 08 October 2011, 16:52:25
Nope,78,s were one of the steps which led to the vinyl record.Why move on from something when it is superior to all that came after it ?
Digital sound is an abomination which can never match the natural warmth of the sound crackles & hissing from vinyl on a good setup.
Many people are returningto vinyl now. CD,s were a con by the industry,and MP3 etc. is similar. ;)

I've never been convinced ......  ;) ;) ;)

I've not had owt to play my vinyl on for years now.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Dave DND on 08 October 2011, 17:10:18
Whilst I`ll agree with the argument that Vinyl will always sound "Warmer" than a CD, have you ever heard something that has been recorded onto an SACD ??

I reckon that it gives vinyl a definate run for its money as in my opinion SACD is the only format I have heard so far that sounds infinately better !!

 ???
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: MaxV6 on 08 October 2011, 19:30:03
Vinyl,  = smaller bandwidth than CD,  higher noise floor,  less speed stability ,  and smaller dynamic range than CD...

seriously, anyone claiming vinyl as way superior in any technical department whatsoever is , fooling themselves, or clueless, sorry if that's a bit confrontational, but as a professional audio engineer i find this endless litany of the old skool  hif fi buff really rather stupid.

yes, if you have really REALLY shit  D/A conversion, and an ancient transport mechanism , then CD can sound a bit naff,  but any decent system blows the socks off any vinyl system on the planet...


i can produce endless technical data to support ALL the opening statements.




Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: MaxV6 on 08 October 2011, 19:35:02
(for the record, i'm  ex BBC,  the team i'm involved with  has won sony awards for our live recordings for classic fm,  , gramophone awards for Classical CD release recordings,  emmy nominations, and oscar nominations,   if you've ever spent much time playing modern console games, you'll have heard my work, most  especially those music related ones ending in Hero, or Star.... )

Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: TheBoy on 08 October 2011, 21:03:52
as you hint,max,dome cheapo early ones had poor d/a converters, meaning a quality vinyl setup could easily match it. But even the cheapest cd player now is far superior
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: albitz on 08 October 2011, 21:09:09
Its all about the "feel" imo and you cant match vinyl for that.Just like the latest most advanced guitar amp can never possibly sound as good as an old valve amp from the 50,s/60,s. ;)............anyway,you listen to queen and bongo bongo so your in no position to judge. :P :D ;D
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: MaxV6 on 09 October 2011, 11:21:53
I'd disagree about the guitar amp to some extent, but not in spirit.... Purely because a number of modern amps share the same core design topology as classic amps, but take the quality and attention to detail to entirely new levels, giving an amp with all the tone , but much less noise.... And both as a guitarist, and engineer, I consider that better.....  but there are also modern hi tech amps that fully fit your description and metaphor
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: feeutfo on 10 October 2011, 11:41:06
Seems Mr Albzhiemers is still stuck in the past. Although he hasn't mentioned  a certain has been Canadian f1 driver yet, or some 19** Duckerdy Desmo steam powered creation as being the best in the world ever, yet. But give it time. ;D
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: albitz on 10 October 2011, 12:27:56
Of course,everything which is newer,more recent is automatically better - which is why Take that are an infinitely better band then the Beatles ever were. :y
Im not a Luddite, far from it, but thankfully,Im not a shallow fashion victim either. :)
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Dave DND on 10 October 2011, 12:46:33
Quote
Of course,everything which is newer,more recent is automatically better - which is why Take that are an infinitely better band then the Beatles ever were

Hmm . . . Not sure that was a great example to be honest, neither sound great to me   :-X
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: albitz on 10 October 2011, 12:53:08
Was tongue in cheek Dave,although Im surprised you arent impressed by the Beatles,but each to their own etc. ;)
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Dave DND on 10 October 2011, 13:37:53
Just because I was probably conceived whilst my parents were listening to the Beatles, it doesn`t necessarily make me a fan !!

 ::) :P
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: albitz on 10 October 2011, 13:49:57
 ;D ;D cant help but have huge respect though - the talent,imagination,originality etc. and still the benchmark by which all others are judged nearly 50 years later. ;)
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 October 2011, 16:45:03
Whilst I`ll agree with the argument that Vinyl will always sound "Warmer" than a CD, have you ever heard something that has been recorded onto an SACD ??

I reckon that it gives vinyl a definate run for its money as in my opinion SACD is the only format I have heard so far that sounds infinately better !!

 ???

Both SACD and DVD-Audio are much better than CD and I think better than vinyl.
Title: Re: CDR 500 glove box fitment in facelift?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 October 2011, 16:47:39
With rock music CD always makes a hash of the high pitched stuff.