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Title: if i phones crashed now
Post by: millwall on 12 October 2011, 23:03:36

would the  Headlines   be "Apple and Blackberry Crumble" ;D

Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Nickbat on 12 October 2011, 23:07:37

would the  Headlines   be "Apple and Blackberry Crumble" ;D

Coat > Door!  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: millwall on 12 October 2011, 23:09:58
sorry couldnt resist    fed up with the kids moaning that they cant use bbm ;D
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 12 October 2011, 23:32:39
 ;D ;D ;D Splendid Mill. :y
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 October 2011, 00:15:29
Weren't RIM asked to suspend BBM by some of the Arab states during 'The Arab Spring' ? If I was into conspiracy theories, I'd think something might be afoot.......  ::) ::) :-\ :-X
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: feeutfo on 13 October 2011, 00:25:54
Coincidences? No, too many Arab countries had uprisings in too short a space of time. Black ops?
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 October 2011, 00:44:38
Indeed! I'm not convinced it's a technical issue...  :-\
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Richie London on 13 October 2011, 08:23:09

would the  Headlines   be "Apple and Blackberry Crumble" ;D
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: tunnie on 13 October 2011, 08:26:12
official story is a core switch crashed & fail over failed to take place. Quite possible, but such failure should be fixed fairly quickly.

Also find it quite difficult to believe almost the entire BB traffic is shunted through a single big ass switch  :o
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 13 October 2011, 08:59:39
Knowing how these networks operate its very difficult to beleave that a single switch failure (more likely to be a router actualy) would take the lot out.

Thats either very incompitent network design or a bull!  ;D
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Rods2 on 13 October 2011, 10:24:58
Ronnie Corbett and Harry Enfield have been there...  ;D ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dmhF1rqaZk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dmhF1rqaZk)

I can't believe it is just a switch problem, or they are amazingly incompetent as they should have backup switches and spare hardware for crucial parts of their server system. I would expect an outage of minutes to maybe an hour for such a problem, if all redundant switches had failed, while they changed the hardware. This to me sounds like a repeat of the Sony fiasco where they were very slow to provide information until they knew the extent of the problem and they were very heavily criticized for it. With RIM already struggling against Apple and Android smart phones, could this be the final nail in their coffin as they will have lost their customers trust.  :o :D
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 13 October 2011, 13:27:15
Coincidences? No, too many Arab countries had uprisings in too short a space of time. Black ops?

Dont you mean Blackberry ops !!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: TheBoy on 13 October 2011, 13:47:19
Thats what happens when you buy Gooseberries ;D.  Nobody outside of corporates should be using them, as they are a rather poor phone, even poorer smartphone, and reliant on single point of failure systems to work.
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: TheBoy on 13 October 2011, 13:49:40
Knowing how these networks operate its very difficult to beleave that a single switch failure (more likely to be a router actualy) would take the lot out.

Thats either very incompitent network design or a bull!  ;D
All gooseberry EMEA message/internet traffic goes via RIM's Slough datacentre - even if a corporate has it's own BES. Thus a problem there will bring down massive parts of their operation.

Gooseberries work differently to every other phone out there
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: millwall on 13 October 2011, 13:50:15
Thats what happens when you buy Gooseberries ;D.  Nobody outside of corporates should be using them, as they are a rather poor phone, even poorer smartphone, and reliant on single point of failure systems to work.

or in laymens terms they are cr@p ;D ;D
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 13 October 2011, 17:54:04
Thats what happens when you buy Gooseberries ;D.  Nobody outside of corporates should be using them, as they are a rather poor phone, even poorer smartphone, and reliant on single point of failure systems to work.

Only if your on a BB data plan..... ;)
Title: Re: if i phones crashed now
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 13 October 2011, 17:57:19
Knowing how these networks operate its very difficult to beleave that a single switch failure (more likely to be a router actualy) would take the lot out.

Thats either very incompitent network design or a bull!  ;D
All gooseberry EMEA message/internet traffic goes via RIM's Slough datacentre - even if a corporate has it's own BES. Thus a problem there will bring down massive parts of their operation.

Gooseberries work differently to every other phone out there

If you've modified the service book.....then the BB browser will work happily with any service provider  ;)