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Title: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Boatboy on 21 October 2011, 11:20:50
Like how long it should take etc.

All this because the top end on 1-3-5 is generally chattery and has been for some time, but lately is getting worse. Sounds worse in the cabin than under the bonnet. Manifold and downpipe gaskets appear sound and no obvious problems around EGR.

Intend to clean the strainer and do some quick oil changes and if things dont improve may have to inspect the lifters themselves. A dose or two of Wynns lifter special has made no difference.

Having searched the forum I'm not sure if i will need a gasket or sealant for the sump, and if sealant is cam cover sealant acceptable?


TIA

Steve



Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: TheBoy on 21 October 2011, 14:38:09
Grey sealant (type used for oil cooler) :y
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Boatboy on 22 October 2011, 09:07:18
Cheers.
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 22 October 2011, 09:22:54
Steve, drain the oil, remove 20 E10 torx headed bolts. I usually leave a couple of bolts at one end so the sum pan does not fall straight down when you prise the pan slightly from the sump casting seal. Undo the two bolts again E10 headed which hold the oil level switch to the inside of the sum pan.
There are four bolts again E10 headed tore bolts holding on the stainer one of which is a little difficult to get to under the return pipe.
Clean it and happy days. Like jaime said grey sealant
:)
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: HockeyDave55 on 23 October 2011, 09:27:48
Hi guys, this is a job I think I need to do....
When you say "grey sealant" exactly which sealant???
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2011, 09:42:24
its the sealer for oil coolers.
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: HockeyDave55 on 23 October 2011, 09:46:08
its the sealer for oil coolers.
Lol... And that would be???
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: RobG on 23 October 2011, 09:47:55
93165267 SEALANT (GREY)
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: tunnie on 23 October 2011, 09:48:05
its the sealer for oil coolers.
Lol... And that would be???

As per the guide if you searched  ;)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90588.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90588.0)
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2011, 09:48:37
its the sealer for oil coolers.
Lol... And that would be???
sorry, don't understand?

if you are after the loctite/whatever number, sorry, no idea
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: HockeyDave55 on 23 October 2011, 09:50:35
93165267 SEALANT (GREY)
I was just about to go into VX and say.... Can I have some grey sealant please? Lol... Thanks guys..  :y
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 23 October 2011, 10:59:28
Quote from: RobG link=topic=94821.msg1188552#msg118 :-\8552 date=1319359675
93165267 SEALANT (GREY)
I was just about to go into VX and say.... Can I have some grey sealant please? Lol... Thanks guys..  :y

I get rather puzzled with people who request the part numbers for everything. If you did go into Vauhall and asked, "I need the grey sealer thats used for the oil cooler, and the sump pan please" they would give you the right stuff. :)
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Andy H on 23 October 2011, 11:25:07
Quote from: RobG link=topic=94821.msg1188552#msg118 :-\8552 date=1319359675
93165267 SEALANT (GREY)
I was just about to go into VX and say.... Can I have some grey sealant please? Lol... Thanks guys..  :y

I get rather puzzled with people who request the part numbers for everything. If you did go into Vauhall and asked, "I need the grey sealer thats used for the oil cooler, and the sump pan please" they would give you the right stuff. :)
They wouldn't dare sell the wrong stuff to 'The Master' :D

Some lesser mortals might end up dealing with the work experience boy and it is always nice to have the advantage of superior knowledge. ;)
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 23 October 2011, 11:44:26
I have not thought of it like that being fair as the VX I use, have always been very good.... So point taken :)

P.S. The Master is Mark DTM I am just his Apprentice :-*
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Boatboy on 23 October 2011, 20:20:15
Ha!

Local vx had no grey. After a word with one of the spanner spinners parts guy said black (as per cam covers) was as good as any.

Job done and driveway still clean so cant be all bad. Strainer 'looked' clean, but a poke behind the shroud revealed a lot of crud. Mostly looked like cam cover sealant :-X

Anyway, job done and the noise is still there. At least that's one cause eliminated. At 165k and a shot body, wondering if it's just a case of running her into the ground whilst keeping an eye on the for sale section.



Steve

Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2011, 17:59:35
Ha!

Local vx had no grey. After a word with one of the spanner spinners parts guy said black (as per cam covers) was as good as any.

Job done and driveway still clean so cant be all bad. Strainer 'looked' clean, but a poke behind the shroud revealed a lot of crud. Mostly looked like cam cover sealant :-X

Anyway, job done and the noise is still there. At least that's one cause eliminated. At 165k and a shot body, wondering if it's just a case of running her into the ground whilst keeping an eye on the for sale section.



Steve
Sorry, black is very wrong for that task.  I would recommend to do it again, using the proper stuff.  And use it as a lesson not to trust Vx dealer technicians.
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Andy B on 24 October 2011, 18:52:32
Ha!

Local vx had no grey. After a word with one of the spanner spinners parts guy said black (as per cam covers) was as good as any.

Job done and driveway still clean so cant be all bad. Strainer 'looked' clean, but a poke behind the shroud revealed a lot of crud. Mostly looked like cam cover sealant :-X

Anyway, job done and the noise is still there. At least that's one cause eliminated. At 165k and a shot body, wondering if it's just a case of running her into the ground whilst keeping an eye on the for sale section.



Steve
Sorry, black is very wrong for that task.  I would recommend to do it again, using the proper stuff.  And use it as a lesson not to trust Vx dealer technicians.

Vauxhall's black sealant is very similar to the stuff someone had glued the sump back onto SWMBO's Smart with.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k17/Tiff4327/S73F1904.jpg)
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2011, 18:54:25
Not a pretty site, Mr B ;)
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Andy B on 24 October 2011, 19:44:12
Not a pretty site, Mr B ;)

I don't think it's done the engine any favours either  :( :(
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: HockeyDave55 on 24 October 2011, 21:19:51
Quote from: RobG link=topic=94821.msg1188552#msg118 :-\8552 date=1319359675
93165267 SEALANT (GREY)
I was just about to go into VX and say.... Can I have some grey sealant please? Lol... Thanks guys..  :y

I get rather puzzled with people who request the part numbers for everything. If you did go into Vauhall and asked, "I need the grey sealer thats used for the oil cooler, and the sump pan please" they would give you the right stuff. :)
You've not used my dealer then!  ;D I try not to but as it's on my doorstep....
Part numbers are always good to have incase I start of asking for grey, they tell me back will do and I don't get what I want.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2011, 21:25:40
Quote from: RobG link=topic=94821.msg1188552#msg118 :-\8552 date=1319359675
93165267 SEALANT (GREY)
I was just about to go into VX and say.... Can I have some grey sealant please? Lol... Thanks guys..  :y

I get rather puzzled with people who request the part numbers for everything. If you did go into Vauhall and asked, "I need the grey sealer thats used for the oil cooler, and the sump pan please" they would give you the right stuff. :)
You've not used my dealer then!  ;D I try not to but as it's on my doorstep....
Part numbers are always good to have incase I start of asking for grey, they tell me back will do and I don't get what I want.  >:( >:( >:(
Well, I guess your local dealer is Evans Halshaw at Milton Keynes, who are positively the worse dealer I have ever come across.
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: HockeyDave55 on 24 October 2011, 21:31:55
 ;D lol... Yeah, I do think we've spoken about them before? As I say, I won't give them much more to do other than sell me what I ask for and if need be, order stuff in.... Other than that, I try to give them a wide birth....
I have to say, i'm not in the habit of slagging anybody off, but I just don't trust them....
Title: Re: Cleaning oil strainer - any tips?
Post by: Boatboy on 24 October 2011, 21:49:38
Quote from: RobG link=topic=94821.msg1188552#msg118 :-\8552 date=1319359675
93165267 SEALANT (GREY)
I was just about to go into VX and say.... Can I have some grey sealant please? Lol... Thanks guys..  :y

I get rather puzzled with people who request the part numbers for everything. If you did go into Vauhall and asked, "I need the grey sealer thats used for the oil cooler, and the sump pan please" they would give you the right stuff. :)


Sadly not in my case Daz. Seems i've been sold a pup with the black stuff. So far it's keeping the oil in at least, and the next opportunity to redo it with grey is a couple of weeks and a thousand miles away. And by then it may be raining and cold, and then there is the small matter of an MOT to address. Wonder if I'll get another advisory for plastic sill covers :D

Steve