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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: tunnie on 09 November 2011, 21:16:14

Title: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 09 November 2011, 21:16:14
So my Elite, which is supposed to have more kit than my CD, does not have a variable speed wiper adjuster  ::)

What exactly is involved in upgrading?
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2011, 21:17:23
Please read the manual

Or the Guides in this case.
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2011, 21:18:05
I nicked a stalk off joshwyatt for you. Ssshhh  :-X
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 09 November 2011, 21:18:40
*goes to check guide....
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: uktigger on 09 November 2011, 21:20:16
Change the relay - that's what I did :-)
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Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2011, 21:26:47
Change the relay - that's what I did :-)
Aye, and a bit of wiring.
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: uktigger on 09 November 2011, 21:28:16
No wiring changes for me - just replaced the relay with a VW "99" relay and it works like a dream in my 2.2 CD
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 09 November 2011, 21:30:35
Just read guide, i think I'll be going for this learning VW thing, give that a whirl  :)
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: albitz on 09 November 2011, 22:08:16
Does it have rain sensor on the screen ?
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: TheBoy on 09 November 2011, 22:09:39
Does it have rain sensor on the screen ?
No
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Entwood on 09 November 2011, 23:21:10
VW 99 relay works brilliantly in my 3.2  :)
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Post by: Lazydocker on 09 November 2011, 23:23:16
I wonder if the VW 99 relay would work in the van :-\
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: 2woody on 10 November 2011, 20:10:39
Just read guide, i think I'll be going for this learning VW thing, give that a whirl  :)

do you want one ? - I have one in my estate and I hate it. Free if you want one.
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Shimmy on 10 November 2011, 20:23:42
Just read guide, i think I'll be going for this learning VW thing, give that a whirl  :)

do you want one ? - I have one in my estate and I hate it. Free if you want one.

Bummer, I just ordered one a few hours ago.

 :D
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Jimbob on 10 November 2011, 20:26:38
I wonder if the VW 99 relay would work in the van :-\

gotta be worth checking the pins, if the same, gotta be worth a try.

I find the 99 relay a bit more of a pain than a wheel, but better than no adjustment.
She has requested a wheeled stalk be retrofitted :( in her new one
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: aaronjb on 10 November 2011, 20:28:00
Out of interest (no use to me, as I have the - apparently rare and sought after ;D - wheel on the stalk) - what does this magical relay do, exactly?
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Jimbob on 10 November 2011, 20:33:38
Out of interest (no use to me, as I have the - apparently rare and sought after ;D - wheel on the stalk) - what does this magical relay do, exactly?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90649.msg1155600#msg1155600

saves retyping it in :y
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: aaronjb on 10 November 2011, 20:40:43
Ah - that's really rather clever! :)
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Jimbob on 10 November 2011, 20:46:13
It is, and works well.

The bit I find annoying is when you want to move the wheel 1 click up or down as the weather has changed, and you have to start over to set it again.
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 November 2011, 00:28:29
Having Please read the manual :-[ the intermittent setting on the van is speed dependent :-\ Not sure if it'd work or not now :-\
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: feeutfo on 11 November 2011, 01:38:43
Does it have rain sensor on the screen ?
No
Mine does  :P

...and it works great. Better than the Golf she had.  :y ....and my old 52 plate had it as well.

...so why on earth doesn't this 52 plate have either an intermitent wipe or rain sensor? Surely the wiring is there for rain sensor? Can epc tell what it left the factory with? Must have had one or the other? Neither is just daft...?  Screen is differant as the sun visor tinted area is lower than mine with rs. So wonder if stalk or screen was replaced with the wrong part? Guessing screen...?
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 November 2011, 09:57:01
...so why on earth doesn't this 52 plate have either an intermitent wipe or rain sensor?

It has intermittent wipe but no adjustment of the delay.

I have a 99 relay around somewhere if anyone local wants to try one. It's ultimately destined for the Westfield but there are more pressing concerns with that. ::)
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: aaronjb on 11 November 2011, 10:04:17
...so why on earth doesn't this 52 plate have either an intermitent wipe or rain sensor?

It has intermittent wipe but no adjustment of the delay.

I have a 99 relay around somewhere if anyone local wants to try one. It's ultimately destined for the Westfield but there are more pressing concerns with that. ::)

Still?  :o
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 11 November 2011, 10:08:05
I've ordered one, rang VW dealer for a giggle, wanted £30  :o

Ordered one from the bay for £14  :)
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: TheBoy on 11 November 2011, 11:37:59
Tunnies mirror base did look big, so wonder if wrong screen...
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 11 November 2011, 14:55:37
Tunnies mirror base did look big, so wonder if wrong screen...

Its a GM screen  :-\
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: TheBoy on 11 November 2011, 17:01:27
Tunnies mirror base did look big, so wonder if wrong screen...

Its a GM screen  :-\
Doesn't mean original ;)

Is there a... ...never mind, I'll check
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: omegaman2 on 14 November 2011, 11:13:22
£3.00 rom scappy works a treat vw 99
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 14 November 2011, 13:51:52
ok, got the relay. Which one is the wiper one in the engine bay, before i go pulling them all?
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: RobG on 14 November 2011, 13:57:21
Tall yellow one. If you don`t get on with it I`ve got a variable stalk for gid/cid (no buttons)
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 14 November 2011, 14:04:04
Quote from: RobG link=topic=95598.msg1199249#ms 1199249 date=1321279041
Tall yellow one

Cheers Rob  :y
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Andy B on 14 November 2011, 14:09:41
ok, got the relay. Which one is the wiper one in the engine bay, before i go pulling them all?

As with all relays, it's the one that clicks in operation, so if you put your hand/fingers on it, you'll feel it as the wiper/indicators/etc operate  :y
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 14 November 2011, 14:20:00
ok, got the relay. Which one is the wiper one in the engine bay, before i go pulling them all?

As with all relays, it's the one that clicks in operation, so if you put your hand/fingers on it, you'll feel it as the wiper/indicators/etc operate  :y


Did not think to try that, thanks Andy  :y

Just put it in, look forward to testing it :)
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Clouseau on 18 November 2011, 10:21:07
Just done this .... bought the relay from the same ebay seller; the one he sent looked brand new!  30 seconds to fit and works perfectly!  What a simple and useful upgrade!  Thanks for raising awareness of this. Looks like the ebay guy has done some good business since the start of this thread too! ::)
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: tunnie on 18 November 2011, 10:44:31
Sods law since I fitted mine, not a drop of rain!  >:(  ;D
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: TheBoy on 18 November 2011, 14:41:38
Not a fan of the VW99 upgrade, I'd sooner retrofit the older Omega setup (my Elite is rain sensing, so not required)...
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Shackeng on 21 November 2011, 18:28:31
Apropos this, my Elite does not seem to have it, 51 plate. Was it an optional extra?
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: kcl on 21 November 2011, 18:35:05
For some reason, at least in Omegas, the adjustable variable speed was dropped from the last cars, do not know the reason but 2002 models seem to lack it. 2001 it was standard. W edo not have that many with rain sensor in Finland, which I also wonder why not because it was offered as an option for some silly 50 EUR when new  :o Maybe the point in Opel was that people might more likely take the sensor-option...
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: TheBoy on 21 November 2011, 18:43:34
Apropos this, my Elite does not seem to have it, 51 plate. Was it an optional extra?
Once the rain sensor became an option, the manually adjustable standard fitment was replaced with a simpler normal intermittent.
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: albitz on 21 November 2011, 18:51:03
Anyone wired a rain sensor into a car which didnt have one from the factory ?  :-\

I have the correct screen/mirror etc fitted. and have the sensor in the shed.Want to wire up the auto mirror at some point,so will do the sensor at the same time if its doable.
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: philsteward on 21 November 2011, 21:11:52
Anyone able to confirm if you can fit the VW99 relay to an Omega with the variable intermittent wiper stalk?

Cheers
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Entwood on 21 November 2011, 21:14:44
Anyone able to confirm if you can fit the VW99 relay to an Omega with the variable intermittent wiper stalk?

Cheers
Why would you want to ... ??

The relay makes the non-variable behave like the variable .... you already have it !!!!
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: philsteward on 21 November 2011, 21:20:46
Anyone able to confirm if you can fit the VW99 relay to an Omega with the variable intermittent wiper stalk?

Cheers
Why would you want to ... ??

The relay makes the non-variable behave like the variable .... you already have it !!!!

I know! Just wondered really!
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: Nick W on 21 November 2011, 22:51:36
Anyone able to confirm if you can fit the VW99 relay to an Omega with the variable intermittent wiper stalk?

Cheers
Why would you want to ... ??

The relay makes the non-variable behave like the variable .... you already have it !!!!

I have the adjustable intermittent wipe, and use it all the time, but I don't think it adjusts enough. It could do with a longer interval.
Title: Re: Variable Wiper Upgrade
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2011, 18:45:06
Anyone able to confirm if you can fit the VW99 relay to an Omega with the variable intermittent wiper stalk?

Cheers
Why would you want to ... ??

The relay makes the non-variable behave like the variable .... you already have it !!!!

I have the adjustable intermittent wipe, and use it all the time, but I don't think it adjusts enough. It could do with a longer interval.
Its about 30s... ...if that ain't long enough, it aint raining ;D