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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Vamps on 14 November 2011, 22:04:55
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swmbo and I just had a thought..... :o :o :o
Miss vamps is watching the Jungle crap on her Ipod touch, if we all had these, would we have to have a TV Licence, and how would they know,? take it further and supposed we all watched TV on laptops, tablets etc, just a thought :-\ :-\ :-\
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Officially you would still need a licence. Frighteningly the BBC wanted to make everyone with an internet connection be forced to have a tv licence.
Also wrongly the bbc has a list of all properties theat don't have a tv licence. Now I could be wrong that smacks of big brother.
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I don't know if it was an urban myth regarding detector vans being non effective if they are not there p!ssing in the wind maybe someone can confirm?
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Officially you would still need a licence. Frighteningly the BBC wanted to make everyone with an internet connection be forced to have a tv licence.
Also wrongly the bbc has a list of all properties theat don't have a tv licence. Now I could be wrong that smacks of big brother.
I believe this is so, not sure they have detector vans now... :-\ :-\ :-\
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The TV Licence covers all TV tuning devices in the household ;)
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Think you still need one (maybe not tv licence) to receive radio. plus if any tv has freeview built in you need one even if not connected.
They will always get you. :D
Death & Taxes (even the stealth ones) ::)
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The TV Licence covers all TV tuning devices in the household ;)
I suspect so, but is an Ipod, or similar a 'tuning device'? also, what if you were in the middle of a field on a dongle, where would you stand?.........
How's business Paul?
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The TV Licence covers all TV tuning devices in the household ;)
I suspect so, but is an Ipod, or similar a 'tuning device'? also, what if you were in the middle of a field on a dongle, where would you stand?.........
How's business Paul?
Covered by your home License... Can't be arsed to go fetch it but it is stated on it somewhere ;) ;)
Business is pretty good... Day 7 today and had my 3rd job :y Hopefully this week will be busier
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Business is pretty good... Day 7 today and had my 3rd job :y Hopefully this week will be busier
So the .. special people .. aren't disappointing you, then ;)
And on the TV licence:
Consider it a tax on "anyone who can see or hear" and I reckon that probably covers it ;D I'm continually surprised they didn't manage to persuade the Powers that Be to make it a tax on everyone with an internet connection as well.
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The TV Licence covers all TV tuning devices in the household ;)
I suspect so, but is an Ipod, or similar a 'tuning device'? also, what if you were in the middle of a field on a dongle, where would you stand?.........
How's business Paul?
Covered by your home License... Can't be arsed to go fetch it but it is stated on it somewhere ;) ;)
Business is pretty good... Day 7 today and had my 3rd job :y Hopefully this week will be busier
Yep, like having a TV in our caravan (Static) but technically I believe you are not supposed to have the TV on in the house at the same time, so of course the boys are not at home watching the tv when we are away...... :-X
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If you are watching live TV, you need a licence and it dosn't matter what device you are using. However, if you are watching recorded programmes through say the BBC iplayer then you don't need a licence ;)
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... but technically I believe you are not supposed to have the TV on in the house at the same time, so of course the boys are not at home watching the tv when we are away...... :-X
I think that's how BBC would have liked it, but I don't think that's how it works & you can still watch our telly at home while we're watching out caravan telly in a field. ;) ;)
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Based on a few months I spent without either a TV licence or a TV, they constantly pester those without one with increasingly threatening letters until they give up and get one anyway. No detection required. Used to have great fun writing letters back to them suggesting, amongst other less repeatable things, that they come and check my non-existent installation, then denying them entry to the property when they turn up. ;D
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To be honest I don't know how they get away with the threatening tone of their letters! >:( If a bank or the council wrote letters in that style there would be abit of a hoo haa!! ::)
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To be honest I don't know how they get away with the threatening tone of their letters! >:( If a bank or the council wrote letters in that style there would be abit of a hoo haa!! ::)
Yep, and it's totally counter-productive. Well, it is in my case, because, rather than politely explain their mistake, I went out to waste as much of their time as possible. >:(
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.... then denying them entry to the property when they turn up. ;D
AFAIK they can only request entry. A lad I worked with had a detector van turn up at his door step, he answered the door,
'Good evening Sir, do you have a TV?'
'Er .... No' he replies ............. telly blarring away in the background ::)
'Can we come & check?'
'No!' :-[ :-[
'I suggest a licence might be a good idea.'
'OK' :-[
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Based on a few months I spent without either a TV licence or a TV, they constantly pester those without one with increasingly threatening letters until they give up and get one anyway. No detection required. Used to have great fun writing letters back to them suggesting, amongst other less repeatable things, that they come and check my non-existent installation, then denying them entry to the property when they turn up. ;D
they constantly pester those without one with increasingly threatening letters until they give up and get one anyway. No detection required
This is rather good example – amongst the many - of the faceless bureaucracy operating with what is, effectively, carte blanche.
No real world standards, no effective supervision, no prospect of sanction should any individual’s behaviour be questioned and most worryingly, no fear.
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IT IS NOT THE BBC.
THE BBC DOES NOT HAVE A LIST OF ALL ADDRESSES WITHOUT A LICENSE.
The BBC does NOT run around chasing people for it...
(signed, an ex BBC engineer.... fed up with people assigning blame and criticism where it is not due.... )
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Officially you would still need a licence. Frighteningly the BBC wanted to make everyone with an internet connection be forced to have a tv licence.
Also wrongly the bbc has a list of all properties theat don't have a tv licence. Now I could be wrong that smacks of big brother.
I believe this is so, not sure they have detector vans now... :-\ :-\ :-\
no its not vans its cars had on on street other week, drove up our street and our street is a dead end road. got stuck trying to turn round and asked me to move my car so said no its on my drive ask one of them over there.
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A TV licence is required to watch or record any live TV per house hold, be it through any method or media, ie, TV transmissions, Sky, Sat, Internet, Mobile including recording devices, tape, dvd, CD, Hardrive, Game Consoles etc.
You dont need a Licence to watch "Catch Up" TV, ie, non live, BBCiplayer, SeeSaw recorded media, or a Tape or DVD as long as it was recorded from another house hold who had a Licence at the time of recording. However if you have any equipment that is capable of receiving live TV, whether plug in or detuned, they will still try for a prosecution.
I can see going down the SORN avenue myself in the future, where you have to declare 'I dont need a Licence' or face a fixed penalty!
Chris.
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I can see going down the SORN avenue myself in the future, where you have to declare 'I dont need a Licence' or face a fixed penalty!
Chris.
With the determination of government, local government, NGO's and any other arm of the national bureaucracy (elected or not) to impose an all encompassing control of our every move, I can see this happening quite readily.
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IT IS NOT THE BBC.
THE BBC DOES NOT HAVE A LIST OF ALL ADDRESSES WITHOUT A LICENSE.
The BBC does NOT run around chasing people for it...
(signed, an ex BBC engineer.... fed up with people assigning blame and criticism where it is not due.... )
;D ;D I'm glad you got that out of your system Max. ;D :y
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I think portable is exempt as are gaming / home cinema / DVDs only (no aerial) setups
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I think portable is exempt as are gaming / home cinema / DVDs only (no aerial) setups
Nope...... :y
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I don't know if it was an urban myth regarding detector vans being non effective if they are not there p!ssing in the wind maybe someone can confirm?
I remember a detector van regularly parked up for the weekend in Ravenhill, Swansea. The rear area was always completely empty, no fixtures or fittings at all.
I think these vans were just driven around in the hope of scaring those without a TV licence into buying a licence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NmdUcmLFkw&feature=player_embedded ( ;D yeah right !)
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i am very proud to say i havnt had a tv license for at least 15 years now. heres to the next 15.
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I don't know if it was an urban myth regarding detector vans being non effective if they are not there p!ssing in the wind maybe someone can confirm?
I remember a detector van regularly parked up for the weekend in Ravenhill, Swansea. The rear area was always completely empty, no fixtures or fittings at all.
I think these vans were just driven around in the hope of scaring those without a TV licence into buying a licence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NmdUcmLFkw&feature=player_embedded ( ;D yeah right !)
You sure it was stolen and dumped???..... oh no thats Townill/Mayhill ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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i am very proud to say i havnt had a tv license for at least 15 years now. heres to the next 15.
Bloody Jocks.......... Thight, Ducks backside spring to mind ;) ;D ;D ;D
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I don't know if it was an urban myth regarding detector vans being non effective if they are not there p!ssing in the wind maybe someone can confirm?
I remember a detector van regularly parked up for the weekend in Ravenhill, Swansea. The rear area was always completely empty, no fixtures or fittings at all.
I think these vans were just driven around in the hope of scaring those without a TV licence into buying a licence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NmdUcmLFkw&feature=player_embedded ( ;D yeah right !)
You sure it was stolen and dumped???..... oh no thats Townill/Mayhill ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Aye, get it right mun !! :y
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I don't know if it was an urban myth regarding detector vans being non effective if they are not there p!ssing in the wind maybe someone can confirm?
My ex's mum dated a guy that works for them, so based on what I was told by him in the 80's they know the distance, and height from ground of each tv switched on the house, they also checked the angle (height/distance etc) then knocked on the door and told them what they were watching.
They generally sent some out on foot after several letters/reminders and if that fails then out goes the van. He alao added it was quite a dangerous job and that he had been ataacked 3 times and they were trained not to retaliate.
25 years on I bet the vans are quite sophicated.
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I don't know if it was an urban myth regarding detector vans being non effective if they are not there p!ssing in the wind maybe someone can confirm?
My ex's mum dated a guy that works for them, so based on what I was told by him in the 80's they know the distance, and height from ground of each tv switched on the house, they also checked the angle (height/distance etc) then knocked on the door and told them what they were watching.
They generally sent some out on foot after several letters/reminders and if that fails then out goes the van. He alao added it was quite a dangerous job and that he had been ataacked 3 times and they were trained not to retaliate.
25 years on I bet the vans are quite sophicated.
That reminds me, my Grandad had some great stories about his days as a secret agent in the Cold War. ;)
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I can see going down the SORN avenue myself in the future, where you have to declare 'I dont need a Licence' or face a fixed penalty!
Chris.
With the determination of government, local government, NGO's and any other arm of the national bureaucracy (elected or not) to impose an all encompassing control of our every move, I can see this happening quite readily.
.......and this doesn't happen already? :-\
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The TV Licensing authority or what ever they are called these days was run through CAPITA and had a massive office in Darwen, Lancs.
Detector vans do exist but a lot info is collected from Currys, Comet etc when people buy a new TV hence the reason they always ask for your personal details. >:(
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The detector vans definately exist, I've seen them, but personally I reckon that's where it ends. They have no sophisticated TV detection equipment. Just ordinary vans with antennae and paint.
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The detector vans definately exist, I've seen them, but personally I reckon that's where it ends. They have no sophisticated TV detection equipment. Just ordinary vans with antennae and paint.
And not just Vans and not just TV's I got caught using the early, ilegal, CB Radio, 1981 ish, and the detector vehicle was a Renault 5 Car, I know because it was on Stockton High Street, I walked past the car and saw all sorts of electrical stuff in the passenger side and a few days later they visited the company I worked for, as I was in a liveried Landrover at the time and we had legit radio comms, the boss was OK about it..... :) :)
The CB Radio, I still have it somewhere..... :y :y
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The detector vans definately exist, I've seen them, but personally I reckon that's where it ends. They have no sophisticated TV detection equipment. Just ordinary vans with antennae and paint.
And not just Vans and not just TV's I got caught using the early, ilegal, CB Radio, 1981 ish, and the detector vehicle was a Renault 5 Car, I know because it was on Stockton High Street, I walked past the car and saw all sorts of electrical stuff in the passenger side and a few days later they visited the company I worked for, as I was in a liveried Landrover at the time and we had legit radio comms, the boss was OK about it..... :) :)
The CB Radio, I still have it somewhere..... :y :y
The issue would have been 'illegal transmission' (or whatever the official jargon is). A transmitted signal is relatively easy to detect.
CB radios transmit and receive, TV's only receive.