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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Omega32E on 17 November 2011, 20:21:32
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Car 2003 3.2 Elite 68,000
Starts first time everytime, very smooth no vibrations knocks or bangs all the way to 130 (according to the speedo) would have gone further but ran out of road, I mean track.
Engine is smashing no oil or water use and since Daz got his hands on it to replace the cambelt its a peach.
The only gripes till now are:
1) The rear suspension sometimes jacks itself all the way up (temp cure is to let the air compressor start with the car than pull the fuse whilst I make my mind up as to whether to sort it proper or just replace the shocks with standard ones)
2) Auto box, changes up and down and is smooth, the only thing I dislike is sometimes when in top and the speed drops to say 45ish the box seems to drop two gears and then almost straight away moves up one gear (not sure on this one will have to look into it further)
3) Slight creak coming from the dash on the drivers side, only really noticeable because the car is otherwise so quiet.(very minor but will have to sort it cause its getting on my t**s)
Went straight through the MOT and no advice, all said and done for a car of that class at under 2k purchase I am well pleased. :)
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Number 2 is 'normal' - or at least not an indication of a 'box problem.. the Omega box always seems to have a hard time choosing a cog. A gearbox update might help, but with a 2003 plate car you might already be on the latest software..
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Oh and the CD and changer is fussy as regards discs (dont want to start another thread regards CDR) what I have found is the CDR with the Ritek dye burnt at 16x speed (the lowest my burners go down to with the Nero software) all problems are solved.
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Your laser is probably not long for this world.Only lives long with pre recorded discs. ;)
Plenty of info/ discussion on the subject in electrickery section. :y
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Number 2 is 'normal' - or at least not an indication of a 'box problem.. the Omega box always seems to have a hard time choosing a cog. A gearbox update might help, but with a 2003 plate car you might already be on the latest software..
Nah, not a hope in hell ;)
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I have read loads of the threads regarding the discs but not altogether sure I buy into them, example here is I have a Philips stand alone disc player in the house which I bought new something like 15 years ago, this unit has been thrashed to within an inch of its life by er indoors who uses it at least 8 hrs a week and has done since it was new. It to has always been picky with the discs but given the maths 416 hrs a year x 15 = 6240 playing hrs and still going strong. I do buy the original discs but back them up straight away and then only ever use the copies so out of the 6240 playing hrs 85% of that time would have been spent playing CDR even though the unit was never designed for them. In terms of economics it it jacked tomorrow it would not owe me anything.
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Oh and the CD and changer is fussy as regards discs (dont want to start another thread regards CDR) what I have found is the CDR with the Ritek dye burnt at 16x speed (the lowest my burners go down to with the Nero software) all problems are solved.
Ritek dye means nought I'm afraid. Generally, Ritek dyes are used on low quality media. Additionally the burn is still too fast.
Using CDR *WILL* knacker the laser, but using a far better disk (ie, Verbatim or genuine TY (but beware fakes - most TY are)) and a much slower burn speed, coupled with a top quality desktop writer *MAY* just allow it to last a bit longer.
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Number 2 is 'normal' - or at least not an indication of a 'box problem.. the Omega box always seems to have a hard time choosing a cog. A gearbox update might help, but with a 2003 plate car you might already be on the latest software..
Nah, not a hope in hell ;)
Of it being on the latest, or of there being a later firmware available? (I can't remember what I read about years/softwares/etc .. t'was probably you who posted it last, too - or Kevin - but I have the memory of a goldfish)
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I have read loads of the threads regarding the discs but not altogether sure I buy into them, example here is I have a Philips stand alone disc player in the house which I bought new something like 15 years ago, this unit has been thrashed to within an inch of its life by er indoors who uses it at least 8 hrs a week and has done since it was new. It to has always been picky with the discs but given the maths 416 hrs a year x 15 = 6240 playing hrs and still going strong. I do buy the original discs but back them up straight away and then only ever use the copies so out of the 6240 playing hrs 85% of that time would have been spent playing CDR even though the unit was never designed for them. In terms of economics it it jacked tomorrow it would not owe me anything.
Yeah, I know, my 21yr old 10 disc changer that I fitted in my GTE when I had it is still going strong, and only ever seen CDRs since about 1996 when I got my first writer. The CDC2's in various Omegas have always been trouble free, despite CDRs.
However, the CDC3, as used in CCR2006, CCRT2008 and NCDC201x absolutely does fail quickly after showing it some CDRs. Most Philips Car Audio from that era does. The Philips changer in her Rover 25 always needs replacement for the same reason.
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Number 2 is 'normal' - or at least not an indication of a 'box problem.. the Omega box always seems to have a hard time choosing a cog. A gearbox update might help, but with a 2003 plate car you might already be on the latest software..
Nah, not a hope in hell ;)
Of it being on the latest, or of there being a later firmware available? (I can't remember what I read about years/softwares/etc .. t'was probably you who posted it last, too - or Kevin - but I have the memory of a goldfish)
There have been updates since 2003. Definately.
Not to say that a conciensus dealer hasn't already applied them ;).
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Aha :) Good to know! One of these days I'll actually make it to a meet and beg the use of a Tech2 type person in exchange for money. One of these days :-[
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The Verbatim discs I have tried jump in the house player and the changer in the car will not see them.
So regards the box would you think it would benefit from an upgrade if available and how would I know what version it is now running.
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Aha :) Good to know! One of these days I'll actually make it to a meet and beg the use of a Tech2 type person in exchange for money. One of these days :-[
One of these days I may believe you >:( :P ;D
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Aha :) Good to know! One of these days I'll actually make it to a meet and beg the use of a Tech2 type person in exchange for money. One of these days :-[
One of these days I may believe you >:( :P ;D
Out of sheer guilt, I was pondering organising something at my place in the new year. I can't not go to that, then. ;D
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The Verbatim discs I have tried jump in the house player and the changer in the car will not see them.
So regards the box would you think it would benefit from an upgrade if available and how would I know what version it is now running.
Poor burn, poor writer, too fast, or fake media (assuming not just a one-off)
You can't tell f/w version of box without Tech2. Given your location, might be worth a trip to Marks DTM Calib just South of Nottingham :y
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Aha :) Good to know! One of these days I'll actually make it to a meet and beg the use of a Tech2 type person in exchange for money. One of these days :-[
One of these days I may believe you >:( :P ;D
Out of sheer guilt, I was pondering organising something at my place in the new year. I can't not go to that, then. ;D
Give us plenty of notice, I'll get some ATF ::)
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Give us plenty of notice, I'll get some ATF ::)
Uh oh.. I better dust off my super-absorbant fleece.. ;D
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Give us plenty of notice, I'll get some ATF ::)
Uh oh.. I better dust off my super-absorbant fleece.. ;D
Don't forget to dig out your "old womans" shower cap, you'll need it ;D ;D ;D
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Don't forget to dig out your "old womans" shower cap, you'll need it ;D ;D ;D
One advantage of having no hair.. my chrome dome is wipe-clean! ;D
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Don't forget to dig out your "old womans" shower cap, you'll need it ;D ;D ;D
One advantage of having no hair.. my chrome dome is wipe-clean! ;D
Ah, you're one of those then...
...so you're perfect for the job :P
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Ah, you're one of those then...
...so you're perfect for the job :P
;D That's me.. although only with a pit - unlike some other members here I am far too ... full figured ... to slide under the car on only axle stands.
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Will stick with the Ritek ( http://www.ritek.com/p2-pro1-cd.asp ) and if it kills the headunit well so be it. Will be a pain cause of the Sat Nav etc but there must be options ( repairing the unit / replace / alternative ) Will post if and when it dies.
To be honest I'd sooner sort the gearbox, do you reckon its worth chasing an upgrade given the traits I am trying to sort
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Will stick with the Ritek ( http://www.ritek.com/p2-pro1-cd.asp ) and if it kills the headunit well so be it. Will be a pain cause of the Sat Nav etc but there must be options ( repairing the unit / replace / alternative ) Will post if and when it dies.
To be honest I'd sooner sort the gearbox, do you reckon its worth chasing an upgrade given the traits I am trying to sort
Given I've yet to see a consistent Ritek based disk, no way could I ever recommend them. I know the likes of SVP (before they were swallowed up by evil) used to rave over them, but we've found high failure rates and poor durability.
Gearbox, it will always drop a peg under *any* load at 45mph. Newer firmwares have more refined maps, but will not eliminate that particular issue.
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Thanks for that, that is the only issue with the box otherwise its good (changes etc) so sounds as if I might as well leave it alone and learn to live with it.
Just the back shocks then, sort the problem which I suspect is the compressor not releasing the air (wound'nt think its the level valve as it does not do it every time) or just replace the back shocks with "standard units". Dont tow a caravan or anything else and rarely have more than 2 people in the car.
Think the way to go is to remove the compressor and make a decision from there.
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2) Auto box, changes up and down and is smooth, the only thing I dislike is sometimes when in top and the speed drops to say 45ish the box seems to drop two gears and then almost straight away moves up one gear (not sure on this one will have to look into it further)
It will drop out of torque converter lockup at 45MPH. If it changes down while locked-up it will then immediately lockup again. That's why it appears to drop a gear then change up immediately. It's just how the box works because it can't change gear with lockup active.
A firmware update won't change this, but it does make it much more refined, IMHO.
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Ah - interesting. In that case, apologies to whoever I misled the other day about dropping two gears. :-[
You learn something every day - thanks KW :y
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Would much sooner have the manual, just for future ref is there much involved in converting to manual not that I'm going to consider taking out a perfectly good auto but if the box develops any faults in the future would it be worth considering.
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Think the way to go is to remove the compressor and make a decision from there.
Just pull its fuse, it doesn't share it with owt else ................. can't remember which though you'll have to Please read the manual ;) ;) ;)
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Would much sooner have the manual, .....
3.2 manuals mostly came in white ................. too many pedals for an exec car. :y :y :y Why have more pedals than feet? ::)
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Would much sooner have the manual, .....
3.2 manuals mostly came in white ................. too many pedals for an exec car. :y :y :y Why have more pedals than feet? ::)
Because slushboxes are the work of the devil!
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Fuse 27, thats what I do now start the car let the compressor put some air into the shocks then pull the fuse, the only thing I know of on that fuse is the back power outlet.
So far as the gearbox, I have always preferred manual boxs as I think they are a better driving experience. (but not that much I would do it without good reason)
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Would much sooner have the manual, .....
3.2 manuals mostly came in white ................. too many pedals for an exec car. :y :y :y Why have more pedals than feet? ::)
Because slushboxes are the work of the devil!
So WTF did you buy one? ??? ??? ???
Manuals are a PITA unless it's in a proper 'sports' car, I fail to see how 3 pedals can make that much difference in normal everyday driving when the car of choice is 1700kg. And yes, I do regularly drive a manual car. :y
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So WTF did you buy one? ??? ??? ???
Well.. I didn't want a white one ;)
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hi.
can't answer your mechanical questions.
however point 3.... i have a couple of rattles. not from the drivers side (any ideas what this is? :-\) but gear lever rattles on rough ground and glove box too.. presumably this is not fixable but maybe some folk can suggest a fix?
:y
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So WTF did you buy one? ??? ??? ???
Well.. I didn't want a white one ;)
You'll have to start learning how to drive a proper gearbox then. ;)
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You'll have to start learning how to drive a proper gearbox then. ;)
To be fair it's not so bad when you're the one telling it what to do (like this morning to overtake a truck - stick it in '2', plant foot, fly past said truck, thump it into 'D' just before the redline et voila).. the only thing that really bugs me is that pregnant pause if you just nail your foot down while it figures out how many cogs to drop :)
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Bought the car as a stop gap, sold the XJR cause I was offered good money but then had no car. The intention was to find a BMW 535 or 540 with a manual box and just run the Omega short term. Having used the Omega for the last month (not had one before) I have changed my mind and decided to keep it.
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............. sold the XJR ....
Please don't tell me your Jag had 3 pedals .................... :-X
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Jag had 2 pedals, but it also had a 4 litre V8, a supercharger nearly 400 bhp and the auto box as fitted to the AMG 55 Merc, so no pregnant pauses there :y
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Jag had 2 pedals, but it also had a 4 litre V8, a supercharger nearly 400 bhp and the auto box as fitted to the AMG 55 Merc, so no pregnant pauses there :y
Good lad. For a moment I thought you'd had a manual Jag out of choice :y :y :y (assuming there is such a thing as a manual XJR)
It's a car I would love to own. :y :y :y
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the omega is meant to be an auto from the comfort/exec/luxury aspect.
the manual hopefully will be gone soon anyway cos flappy paddles will overtake giving the option of either auto or manual.
god you manual lovers really do annoy me ;D ;D ;D
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Having finally driven a proper flappy-paddle manual box (Ferrari 430) the other day, I've reordered my preferences to Auto->Manual->Flappy Paddle Manual
Like playing video games on the road, great fun ;D
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Having finally driven a proper flappy-paddle manual box (Ferrari 430) the other day, I've reordered my preferences to Auto->Manual->Flappy Paddle Manual
Like playing video games on the road, great fun ;D
yup, normal folk can pretend to be schu-stacker! ;D
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Given the choice manual it would have been, I think there are a few about but I have never seen one. They are a nice car and great to drive but the cost of ownership slaughters your bank account, mpg could be bought down to single numbers with ease and at 140 a litre that could mean 15 miles on a tenner.
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Having finally driven a proper flappy-paddle manual box (Ferrari 430) the other day, I've reordered my preferences to Auto->Manual->Flappy Paddle Manual
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I suppose it depends whether it's a manual with auto controls or an auto with manual control. I know Smart isn't in quite the same league as a Ferrri, but IMHO ::) its manual with flappy pedals would have been better as a normal manual.
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..... and great to drive but .....
but ................ they say that the manual isn't that brilliant - I've only ever driven a manual diseasal for a couple of miles so can't really comment. :-\ :y :y
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the omega is meant to be an auto from the comfort/exec/luxury aspect.
the manual hopefully will be gone soon anyway cos flappy paddles will overtake giving the option of either auto or manual.
god you manual lovers really do annoy me ;D ;D ;D
Nothing comfort/exec/lux about a gearbox that cant make its mind up :-X
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I suppose it depends whether it's a manual with auto controls or an auto with manual control. I know Smart isn't in quite the same league as a Ferrri, but IMHO ::) its manual with flappy pedals would have been better as a normal manual.
I wish I'd had more than five minutes in the car to see what it's really like - it's not perfect by any stretch, but around an auto cross circuit banging up and down with the paddles was exceptionally fun. The change from 1st to 2nd at gentle speeds was a bit lurching, though - given the price of the car (if I were buying one, which I doubt I ever could!) I might be a little disappointed really..
Still, better than my kangarooing away in the Porsche with a manual box :-[ :-[ :-[
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Given the choice manual it would have been, I think there are a few about but I have never seen one. They are a nice car and great to drive but the cost of ownership slaughters your bank account, mpg could be bought down to single numbers with ease and at 140 a litre that could mean 15 miles on a tenner.
as far as im aware this is true of the auto and manual variants. :y
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the omega is meant to be an auto from the comfort/exec/luxury aspect.
the manual hopefully will be gone soon anyway cos flappy paddles will overtake giving the option of either auto or manual.
god you manual lovers really do annoy me ;D ;D ;D
Nothing comfort/exec/lux about a gearbox that cant make its mind up :-X
It'll knock it out of top lock-up on a down hill stretch, but over all they're not that bad! Check the level/get the software updated/I think learn to live with it ;) ;) ;)
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the omega is meant to be an auto from the comfort/exec/luxury aspect.
the manual hopefully will be gone soon anyway cos flappy paddles will overtake giving the option of either auto or manual.
god you manual lovers really do annoy me ;D ;D ;D
Nothing comfort/exec/lux about a gearbox that cant make its mind up :-X
Get a good looking passenger to compliment the manual box
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the omega is meant to be an auto from the comfort/exec/luxury aspect.
the manual hopefully will be gone soon anyway cos flappy paddles will overtake giving the option of either auto or manual.
god you manual lovers really do annoy me ;D ;D ;D
Nothing comfort/exec/lux about a gearbox that cant make its mind up :-X
Get a good looking passenger to compliment the manual box
but that will never happen cos you're driving an omega!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To late, already has :D
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To late, already has :D
fair play ;D :y :y :y :y
as i mentioned before would be interesting to know what rattles you're getting from drivers side (no pun intended) ;D
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To late, already has :D
fair play ;D :y :y :y :y
as i mentioned before would be interesting to know what rattles you're getting from drivers side (no pun intended) ;D
This may or may not be the cause, but I am beginning to wonder whether the door stay is the cause. The noise I am getting sounds just the same as the clicking sound as you open and shut the door. The bolt in the stay is not the correct one and when I loosened it the other day the sound did not seem as loud.
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Intend to have a really good look over the weekend (weather permitting) so will post my findings next week.
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To late, already has :D
fair play ;D :y :y :y :y
as i mentioned before would be interesting to know what rattles you're getting from drivers side (no pun intended) ;D
This may or may not be the cause, but I am beginning to wonder whether the door stay is the cause. The noise I am getting sounds just the same as the clicking sound as you open and shut the door. The bolt in the stay is not the correct one and when I loosened it the other day the sound did not seem as loud.
luckily for you my son i can answer that.......... there's an item you can buy for literally a few pence that will remedy this i believe from your local vaux dealer. see the link below................ :y :y :y :y
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90525.0
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Spot on, will get one :y :y
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Spot on, will get one :y :y
good lad, i got the same trouble. i think the important note for both of us is ''the doors are heavy'' ;D ;D ;D i'm considering layers of brick topped off with a pillow ;D ;D ;D ;D
anyway mate good luck and report you results on here... it all helps :y
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You are forgetting that the Omega manual box is a really horrible lump of junk. I'd quite like a manual Omega, but I just couldn't tolerate the R25/R28 box.
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Personally, it has to be auto, even if it can't make its mind up between 40 and 50. (Which is really irritating!! >:( )