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Title: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Amigo on 20 November 2011, 21:11:39
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-1000-MINT-CONDITION-MUST-HAVE-MORRIS-1000-COLLECTOR-/250936107241?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a6cf520e9
  Not bidding but it's listed as having a 998 A series engine. Given the year i think the seller means 948cc. They early splitscreens were 803cc...sidevalve? They had bakelite dash/steering wheel , rare now. Then there was the 948cc which i think this is...or was....followed by the last batch which ran the 1098cc as fitted to the ubiquitous Austin/Morris BMC 1100's. Despite the last batch being badged & known as Moggie thousands they ran the 1098 lump which had a longer stroke than the 998. No Moggie ever left the factory with a 998 engine fitted, they were only fitted to minis which of course were fwd.

   Sorry for being a geeky anorak. I'm not bidding so don't want to bother the seller with daft questions & i know some of you of a certain age will remember when these were every day small cars. Guy. 8)
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Entwood on 20 November 2011, 21:19:36
My 1952 Morris Minor - my first car and cost me £50 !! - was a 918cc Side Valve IIRC - the 803 cc was the first A-series overhead valve one and was the MM series II

The 948 / 1098 were the Morris 1000 series .. I don't remember a 998 ever being produced .. but could be wrong .. :(
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: albitz on 20 November 2011, 21:37:56
Wasnt the 998 the cooper engine ? If so it would be ( relatively) good fun to drive. :)
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Seth on 20 November 2011, 22:02:05
My father had a 948cc one - IIRC these were badged as 'Minor 1000'? :-\
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Vamps on 20 November 2011, 22:25:43
That is a car that looks likes it has been worked on, modded, look at the dash.... :-\
Like the Mini engine changes were and are very common, lots have the 'A' series engine from the Marina, so I do not see why it may not have had the 'A' series, 998 fitted at some point, why fit this and not a 1100 or 1300 (1275) I do not know :) :)
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Andy B on 20 November 2011, 22:47:46
Someone on the forum has an early split screen Minor ..................... but can now remember who! :-[
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Post by: VXL V6 on 20 November 2011, 23:00:47
Wellung?
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Andy B on 20 November 2011, 23:01:39
Wellung?

That's the one!  :y :y :y
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Post by: Debs. on 20 November 2011, 23:21:44
 :P No dog-lover could possibly wish to own a 'Moggie'! ;D
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Amigo on 20 November 2011, 23:43:03
The question remains, if it does run a 998 as this was only ever a fwd fitment it must have been turned round so which box/clutch is it runninng? I still think it's 948cc typing error as it's so easy to fit the RWD 1275 Marina units so why go to the trouble of fitting a 998 & which box?
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Vamps on 20 November 2011, 23:50:38
The question remains, if it does run a 998 as this was only ever a fwd fitment it must have been turned round so which box/clutch is it runninng? I still think it's 948cc typing error as it's so easy to fit the RWD 1275 Marina units so why go to the trouble of fitting a 998 & which box?

Whilst I tend to agree, the 1275 engine was fitted to the Mini and Austin / Morris 1300 and the Allegro, so must be a simple swap.... :-\
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: dbug on 21 November 2011, 20:49:34
Remember a Morris Minor in the late 60s fitted with the B series MGB engine and box!!

I used to own a Riley 1.5 fitted with tuned MGB engine and overdrive box - with lowered suspension - quite a quick motor in its time!!

Or my 3.8s jag engined Anglia 107E - reported earlier on OOF  :y

With a bit of effort you can fit most motors with bigger power lumps - although you need to consider upgrading brakes, suspension, drive train etc to cope.
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 November 2011, 20:54:16
Since when has a 40+ year old spare tyre been a selling point  ??? :o
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Andy B on 21 November 2011, 21:00:11
Since when has a 40+ year old spare tyre been a selling point  ??? :o

C'mon Mark! Play nicely.  ;)

It says 'spare unused', says nothing about being the original ........  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 November 2011, 21:01:32
Doesn't look like a very modern tyre pattern though  ;D ;D

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqJ,!mIE642SVQRsBOyRsmozu!~~60_3.JPG)
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Andy B on 21 November 2011, 21:07:31
Doesn't look like a very modern tyre pattern though  ;D ;D

 .......

Maybe from a new batch of olde style tyres ??? ???

I'm not impressed with the addition of side repeater indicators. I'm all for modernisation of older cars, but they look horrible, there's loads of choice of led lights that would have looked less in your face.
Must've had a DYMO printer for last Christmas  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Mart280 on 21 November 2011, 21:41:05
Looking at those Moggie pics it sprang to mind that it needs doing to it what they did to the Mini and Beetle, a 21st century version, bet it would sell well.
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Vamps on 21 November 2011, 22:04:13
Looking at those Moggie pics it sprang to mind that it needs doing to it what they did to the Mini and Beetle, a 21st century version, bet it would sell well.

And the Fiat 500 and with an old Austin, name escapes me but yes I believe you are right..... :y :y
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Amigo on 21 November 2011, 23:20:27
Modern day Moggie, why not? Just as long as they did'nt put a godawful Rover 45 engine in it, worse than the A series.
Title: Re: Pretty Moggie minor..wrong engine?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 November 2011, 17:59:16
 Many years ago, a neighbour of ours bought one of the last "moggies" to come off the production line. If memory serves the year was  1971(J)... :y

It seemed very old-fashioned even way back then.