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Title: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Vamps on 20 November 2011, 23:43:15
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-ESTATE-CDX-AUTO-BLUE-PRICE-LOWERED-/300617303357?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item45fe30053d
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: tunnie on 21 November 2011, 00:27:01
Clearly the seller is a retard who has no idea what tiptronic means
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: TheBoy on 21 November 2011, 09:13:45
Seeing as Tiptronic is a Porsche trademark, and I doubt he's mated a Porsche box to a 2.2 Omega, I would have to agree with tunnie
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: dbug on 22 November 2011, 21:18:24
Seeing as Tiptronic is a Porsche trademark, and I doubt he's mated a Porsche box to a 2.2 Omega, I would have to agree with tunnie

Got a 6 speed tiptronic on my Jag  ;)
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: omegod on 22 November 2011, 23:04:04
And had it on my 7 series!
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Vamps on 22 November 2011, 23:55:07
Had 'Triptronic' on my old Citroen C4 Grande Picasso..........
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: tunnie on 23 November 2011, 10:34:04
You get it on many cars, but that term is from Porkers.

"The Tiptronic transmission had debuted for the first time ever only 3 years prior to the debut of the 968, on the 1989 Type 964 911"
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: aaronjb on 23 November 2011, 10:37:12
To borrow from Wikipedia:

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Tiptronic is a registered trademark, owned by German sports car maker Porsche, who license it for use by other manufacturers, such as Land Rover and the Volkswagen Group (Audi, SEAT, Škoda and Volkswagen).

Many people (erroneously) use the term 'tiptronic' to refer generically to any type of torque converter automatic transmission that incorporates a manual upshift/downshift feature.
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2011, 18:45:42
Seeing as Tiptronic is a Porsche trademark, and I doubt he's mated a Porsche box to a 2.2 Omega, I would have to agree with tunnie

Got a 6 speed tiptronic on my Jag  ;)
Nope, you have a sequential auto
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2011, 18:45:58
And had it on my 7 series!
Nope, you have a steptronic
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2011, 18:46:14
Had 'Triptronic' on my old Citroen C4 Grande Picasso..........
Nope, you had a piece of shit
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Del Boy on 23 November 2011, 18:49:09
And had it on my 7 series!

BMW's are steptronic :y
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Andy B on 23 November 2011, 18:52:09
And had it on my 7 series!

BMW's are steptronic :y

What's in a name. We all Hoover up, whether it's a Dyson, Electrolux etc etc  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: TheBoy on 23 November 2011, 18:57:30
And had it on my 7 series!

BMW's are steptronic :y

What's in a name. We all Hoover up, whether it's a Dyson, Electrolux etc etc  :y :y :y
Bloody northerners.

I'm sure the women down here vacuum up.  In fact I know, as she always nags asks me to "carry the vacuum upstairs"...   ...but the, the old bag is from Oxford...
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Andy B on 23 November 2011, 19:01:57
And had it on my 7 series!

BMW's are steptronic :y

What's in a name. We all Hoover up, whether it's a Dyson, Electrolux etc etc  :y :y :y
Bloody northerners.

I'm sure the women down here vacuum up.  In fact I know, as she always nags asks me to "carry the vacuum upstairs"...   ...but the, the old bag is from Oxford...

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: the alarming man on 23 November 2011, 19:34:44
he is even a bigger retard if he thinks it is worth that :y
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 23 November 2011, 19:50:52

I'm sure the women down here vacuum up.  In fact I know, as she always nags asks me to "carry the vacuum upstairs"...   ...but the, the old bag is from Oxford...

You've not got her a bagless? Stingy git.
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Vamps on 23 November 2011, 23:05:47
Had 'Triptronic' on my old Citroen C4 Grande Picasso..........
Nope, you had a piece of shit

You have such a wonderful way with words....... :D :D :P
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: dbug on 24 November 2011, 00:58:16
Seeing as Tiptronic is a Porsche trademark, and I doubt he's mated a Porsche box to a 2.2 Omega, I would have to agree with tunnie

Got a 6 speed tiptronic on my Jag  ;)
Nope, you have a sequential auto

The ZF 6HP26 box fitted to Jag XJ is a Tiptronic type box -Tiptronic type gearboxes are not sequential!   The Jag box is actually a Bosch® Mechatronic box made by ZF (the maker of the original Tiptronic box for Porsche).

This has a J gate - autofunctions to the right, manual to the left.

Differences explained Here (http://www.carbibles.com/transmission_bible_pg2.html)  ;)
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Del Boy on 24 November 2011, 07:56:53
Seeing as Tiptronic is a Porsche trademark, and I doubt he's mated a Porsche box to a 2.2 Omega, I would have to agree with tunnie

Got a 6 speed tiptronic on my Jag  ;)
Nope, you have a sequential auto

The ZF 6HP26 box fitted to Jag XJ is a Tiptronic type box -Tiptronic type gearboxes are not sequential!   The Jag box is actually a Bosch® Mechatronic box made by ZF (the maker of the original Tiptronic box for Porsche).

This has a J gate - autofunctions to the right, manual to the left.

Differences explained Here (http://www.carbibles.com/transmission_bible_pg2.html)  ;)

The Jag boxes are believe are I exactly the same as the BMW boxes, which in one respect, means they're quite dimwitted at times. However BMW have always said to me it's 'Steptronic'.
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 November 2011, 09:39:18
This is what a sequential gearbox is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_transmission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_transmission)

..  and here's my mate "happy feet" demonstrating why you want one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sH2i0Zf14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sH2i0Zf14)

Note he didn't even bother fitting a clutch pedal. ;D
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: aaronjb on 24 November 2011, 10:06:32
This is what a sequential gearbox is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_transmission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_transmission)

..  and here's my mate "happy feet" demonstrating why you want one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sH2i0Zf14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sH2i0Zf14)

Note he didn't even bother fitting a clutch pedal. ;D

I was never convinced when it came to sequential boxes.. until I drove the 430 with the F1 box - it's like playing a very expensive, awesome video game  :D and now I really really want one.

Not quite as nuts as that hillclimb car, though ;D
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2011, 18:51:30
Seeing as Tiptronic is a Porsche trademark, and I doubt he's mated a Porsche box to a 2.2 Omega, I would have to agree with tunnie

Got a 6 speed tiptronic on my Jag  ;)
Nope, you have a sequential auto

The ZF 6HP26 box fitted to Jag XJ is a Tiptronic type box -Tiptronic type gearboxes are not sequential!   The Jag box is actually a Bosch® Mechatronic box made by ZF (the maker of the original Tiptronic box for Porsche).

This has a J gate - autofunctions to the right, manual to the left.

Differences explained Here (http://www.carbibles.com/transmission_bible_pg2.html)  ;)
Only Porsche have Tiptronic. They own the name. Call it what the hell you like. Fred. Bob. But Jag do not call it Tiptronic. Ever.

Yours is a sequential auto. NOT sequential manual. Very different.

;D

/Edited as I forgot laughy smiley, which may have cause confusion on the intended tone
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Andy B on 24 November 2011, 19:04:52
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Only Porsche have Tiptronic. They own the name. Call it what the hell you like. Fred. Bob. But Jag do not call it Tiptronic. Ever.

Yours is a sequential auto. NOT sequential manual. Very different.

Best just described as Clarkson does ......... ie Flappy Paddle  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: albitz on 24 November 2011, 19:08:16
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Only Porsche have Tiptronic. They own the name. Call it what the hell you like. Fred. Bob. But Jag do not call it Tiptronic. Ever.

Yours is a sequential auto. NOT sequential manual. Very different.

Best just described as Clarkson does ......... ie SHITE  :y :y :y

Fixed. :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: TheBoy on 24 November 2011, 19:15:37
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Only Porsche have Tiptronic. They own the name. Call it what the hell you like. Fred. Bob. But Jag do not call it Tiptronic. Ever.

Yours is a sequential auto. NOT sequential manual. Very different.

Best just described as Clarkson does ......... ie Flappy Paddle  :y :y :y
Not all have the flappy paddles, many have it purely on the lever (when in drive, move left, then its functinally like a manual sequential)
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Andy B on 24 November 2011, 19:20:56
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Only Porsche have Tiptronic. They own the name. Call it what the hell you like. Fred. Bob. But Jag do not call it Tiptronic. Ever.

Yours is a sequential auto. NOT sequential manual. Very different.

Best just described as Clarkson does ......... ie SHITE  :y :y :y

Fixed. :y ;D ;D

Depends .......... SWMBO's Smart is a sequential manual gearbox with auto controls. It takes a bit of getting used to & I'm sure it could be better. Instead of your left foot pressing the clutch there's a motor driven pin that pushes into the middle of a conventional clutch. If you're heavy with the throttle on take off, then you can get a bit of a jolt as it takes up drive, but in general it's pretty good - this car does actually have flappy paddles, not all do.
In all honesty though, I think the Smart Roadster would be a better car if Merc had fitted a proper manual gearbox.  :-\ (& you all know my thoughts on cars with 3 pedals  ;))
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 November 2011, 23:54:31
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Only Porsche have Tiptronic. They own the name. Call it what the hell you like. Fred. Bob. But Jag do not call it Tiptronic. Ever.

Yours is a sequential auto. NOT sequential manual. Very different.

Best just described as Clarkson does ......... ie Flappy Paddle  :y :y :y
Not all have the flappy paddles, many have it purely on the lever (when in drive, move left, then its functinally like a manual sequential)

.. and you get flappy paddles that just give the firmware in an auto box a bit of a prod, and flappy paddles that crash a proper sequential box up a cog, with a little ignition retard. ;)

Oh, and flappy paddles that close the throttle... pause... declutch... pause.... select gear... pause... engage clutch... pause.. gradually open throttle again. >:(
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: albitz on 25 November 2011, 00:11:02
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Only Porsche have Tiptronic. They own the name. Call it what the hell you like. Fred. Bob. But Jag do not call it Tiptronic. Ever.

Yours is a sequential auto. NOT sequential manual. Very different.

Best just described as Clarkson does ......... ie Flappy Paddle  :y :y :y
Not all have the flappy paddles, many have it purely on the lever (when in drive, move left, then its functinally like a manual sequential)

.. and you get flappy paddles that just give the firmware in an auto box a bit of a prod, and flappy paddles that crash a proper sequential box up a cog, with a little ignition retard. ;)

Oh, and flappy paddles that close the throttle... pause... declutch... pause.... select gear... pause... engage clutch... pause.. gradually open throttle again. >:(

Cant see what an educationally subnormal dwarf with pyromania has to do with gearboxes. :-\          :D
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: aaronjb on 25 November 2011, 00:26:48
Seeing as Tiptronic is a Porsche trademark, and I doubt he's mated a Porsche box to a 2.2 Omega, I would have to agree with tunnie

Got a 6 speed tiptronic on my Jag  ;)
Nope, you have a sequential auto

The ZF 6HP26 box fitted to Jag XJ is a Tiptronic type box -Tiptronic type gearboxes are not sequential!   The Jag box is actually a Bosch® Mechatronic box made by ZF (the maker of the original Tiptronic box for Porsche).

This has a J gate - autofunctions to the right, manual to the left.

Differences explained Here (http://www.carbibles.com/transmission_bible_pg2.html)  ;)
Only Porsche have Tiptronic. They own the name. Call it what the hell you like. Fred. Bob. But Jag do not call it Tiptronic. Ever.

Yours is a sequential auto. NOT sequential manual. Very different.

;D

/Edited as I forgot laughy smiley, which may have cause confusion on the intended tone

Porsche - and anyone they've licensed the name to..
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Andy B on 25 November 2011, 00:33:26
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Oh, and flappy paddles that close the throttle... pause... declutch... pause.... select gear... pause... engage clutch... pause.. gradually open throttle again. >:(

You've driven a Smart then!  ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Ian_D on 06 December 2011, 01:31:59
This is what a sequential gearbox is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_transmission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequential_manual_transmission)

..  and here's my mate "happy feet" demonstrating why you want one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sH2i0Zf14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5sH2i0Zf14)

Note he didn't even bother fitting a clutch pedal. ;D
Sorry to dig this up, but I've only just seen it now...

Bloody Hell... how fast? Thats mental!  :o :o :o  :y

I can honestly say, if I were in there I would shit myself!  ;D
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Gaffers on 06 December 2011, 04:11:17
Clearly the seller is a retard who has no idea what tiptronic means

Most people from Crewe are retards :D
Title: Re: Tiptronic Omega...............
Post by: Andy B on 06 December 2011, 09:33:32
Clearly the seller is a retard who has no idea what tiptronic means

Most people from Crewe are retards :D

My reply from him/her was ........ Ooops! That's my other car!  ::)