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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: megawoolie on 01 December 2011, 17:57:04
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Not happy with the suspension on my 3.2 miggy! Any help as regards to coilovers and or lowering and stiffining everything up??
Advice and help please ;) ;) ;) ;)
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B4's!
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B4's!
...with either Eibach or stinmetz springs. Irmscher idealy but very rare.
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Ok excuse me for being abit blonde! but has anyone got any links so i can have a look..thanks ;D
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http://www.google.co.uk/ :)
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http://www.google.co.uk/ :)
;D ;D ;D
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Very good ha ha he he ;D
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Very good ha ha he he ;D
Sorry ;) havent looked for a while, bit out of touch on prices etc.
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Balance motorssport for the B4's :y
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Thanks peeps :o :o
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Balance motorssport for the B4's :y
They couldnt supply when i was looking. :(
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Not happy with the suspension on my 3.2 miggy! Any help as regards to coilovers and or lowering and stiffining everything up??
Advice and help please ;) ;) ;) ;)
What are not happy with? The ferry in a storm like handeling on twisty roads?
If you dont mind loosing some comfort, the best way is to loose the rubber donutbushings in the rear, and the front wishbonebushing and replace them with the poly ones.
Big gain in presission and handling allready there :y
If you want to lower the car, forget about the Bilstein B4. It's to weak for lowered springs( Iknow I will open a wormhole here, but I dont care ;))
Option One: 30-40mm lowering. Any known manufakter will do on springs, but as said, Eibach and Irmscher is good. Shocks have to be Bilstein B6 or B8, or the cheap but very good alternative, yellow Koni (sport). The Koni and B8 are adjustable in rebounce, so you can finetune them to your springs.
Option two: Coilovers... Here's many ways to shop wrong, but the best way is to go for the expensive stuff and known brand. Many use Bilstein or Koni in their coilovers, and there's a reason for it, they make the best shock's ever 8) And the coilovers have to be made of stainless steel...
If you after lowering the car, and uses wide tyres in the back, bigger than 235's you have to have a camberkit installed at the back, or the inside of your tyres will be gone in a few thousand miles.
My car: poly donut, front wishbonebushing and full camberkit, Koni Sport, cobra 40mm springs, Works like a charm, and the comfort is nothing worse than a BMW 528 E39 with sport chassi, but my Miggy is more stable on twisty roads. Anyone who has driven it on twisty mountain roads, have come out of the car with a smil on their face :y :y :y :y My Duty Is Done 8)
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I can never quite understand why we have posts like this ??? An Omega, especially an Elite, is by it's very nature is a car that's built for comfort ie soggy, soft COMFORTABLE suspension, so why are you then surprised that it won't go round corners like even a basic Astra will go round them? If you want a sports car that can carry you & your family buy a four door Ferrari/Aston Martin/etc ;) ;)
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If you want a sports car that can carry you & your family buy a four door Ferrari/Aston Martin/etc ;) ;)
How many of those can you get for Omega money, Andy? ;D
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If you want a sports car that can carry you & your family buy a four door Ferrari/Aston Martin/etc ;) ;)
How many of those can you get for Omega money, Andy? ;D
You'll perhaps be able to buy a tyre or 2 at a pinch for one of them, but you get my point! ;) ;) If you want sports car suspension, don't buy a luxo barge! :y
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You'll perhaps be able to buy a tyre or 2 at a pinch for one of them, but you get my point! ;) ;) If you want sports car suspension, don't buy a luxo barge! :y
True enough - although I do think they may have gone a bit 'too' soft with the Elite. It is a bit like driving a blancmange.. Well, mine is, anyway :)
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You'll perhaps be able to buy a tyre or 2 at a pinch for one of them, but you get my point! ;) ;) If you want sports car suspension, don't buy a luxo barge! :y
True enough - although I do think they may have gone a bit 'too' soft with the Elite. It is a bit like driving a blancmange.. Well, mine is, anyway :)
The Senator's 'ride control' suspension usewd to have 3 settings Comfort Normal & Sports. Sports wasn't exactly like a Lotus but Comfort was really really soft, more so than an Elite IIRC ;) ;) SWMBO hated it, but I used to love it, especially crawling through traffic you used to be able to get the front of the car bouncing llike these huge Yanks Tanks on pneumatic trick dampers (nearly) ;D ;D ;D
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The Senator's 'ride control' suspension usewd to have 3 settings Comfort Normal & Sports. Sports wasn't exactly like a Lotus but Comfort was really really soft, more so than an Elite IIRC ;) ;) SWMBO hated it, but I used to love it, especially crawling through traffic you used to be able to get the front of the car bouncing llike these huge Yanks Tanks on pneumatic trick dampers (nearly) ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D See, now why couldn't GM have put something like that on the Omega? It's not as if the technology wasn't there (witness the Senator and numerous other German barges).. Boo, GM, boo.
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The Omega B is a very grown-up, well-handling car. Easily up to the best of BMW, Mercedes, etc. And certainly better than anything front-drive.
Where we are is mainly hill-side roads, I reckon my MV6 is just about class of the field here, quicker than either my MX-5 or the Holden, purely on handling finesse
I'd make sure that the components that are there are in tip-top condition before going too far off-piste.
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In Norway, you have to pay the same amount of money for a standard Golf 1,6 as for a loaded Omega V6...Go figure ???
So the choise is easy, at least for me and the other Omega drivers ;)
Some people like the comfort as it is standard, some like the sport chassi on the FL Omega(witch is very capable actually), and there is me. who realy takes it out and like the handling that you can get out of such a heavy car, with small money.
A BMW E39 is thre times the money with the similar engine... thats the financial side..
Then is the fact that The Omega is spacious, good seats and has a driving ergonomy thats let you drive for 10 hour's straight without getting tired, or have your hearing dammaged ;)
And it looks good :y :y
So where else can you get all that for so little money, and still tune the chassi for your driving preferences ???
In Germany, they have my dream Omega, it's called Edition, have the 3,2, sport chassi, all the gadgets and optionally the sport seats in leather and 18" Irmscher alloys :y
Iam allready in the thinkingbox about getting a FL2,2, then go to Germany and pick up an Edition, then move everything over to the 2,2 body :)
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In Norway, you have to pay the same amount of money for a standard Golf 1,6 as for a loaded Omega V6...Go figure ???
You have insane taxes on cars over there.. a few years back I remember walking into the Oslo Nissan dealership and being astonished at the cost of a Micra (about £15,000 IIRC?).
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In Norway, you have to pay the same amount of money for a standard Golf 1,6 as for a loaded Omega V6...Go figure ???
You have insane taxes on cars over there.. a few years back I remember walking into the Oslo Nissan dealership and being astonished at the cost of a Micra (about £15,000 IIRC?).
20+ years ago a pint was around £5- IIRC in Norway :o
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In Norway, you have to pay the same amount of money for a standard Golf 1,6 as for a loaded Omega V6...Go figure ???
You have insane taxes on cars over there.. a few years back I remember walking into the Oslo Nissan dealership and being astonished at the cost of a Micra (about £15,000 IIRC?).
It's not insane, it's beyond insane :( :( :( :( And you remember correctly :)
The taxes is regulated by the weight, co2 emissions and the power in Kw. So there is only 2 or 3 3,2 Omegas in Norway taken in by the importer. I think the price on them was over 75.000£ back in 2003...
But today the Omega is an underestimated car in Norway, so you get a 98-00 Omega V6 for the same money as the Golf of the same year ;)
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20+ years ago a pint was around £5- IIRC in Norway :o
Yup - I was over there for a few weeks for work (at the Flymedisinsk Institutt, Oslo) and ate at the cheapest place we could find (called Malik's, I think, a kind of kebab shop a couple of streets back from Karl Johans Gate), even then a meal plus a glass of wine was probably £14..
Lovely place, though, I could quite happily live there if it weren't for...
The taxes is regulated by the weight, co2 emissions and the power in Kw. So there is only 2 or 3 3,2 Omegas in Norway taken in by the importer. I think the price on them was over 75.000£ back in 2003...
...if it weren't for that! ;D
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In Norway, you have to pay the same amount of money for a standard Golf 1,6 as for a loaded Omega V6...Go figure ???
You have insane taxes on cars over there.. a few years back I remember walking into the Oslo Nissan dealership and being astonished at the cost of a Micra (about £15,000 IIRC?).
20+ years ago a pint was around £5- IIRC in Norway :o
Good old days ;D
It's actually the same price now, taken the inflation into considering, it's only £10 now, in oslo...around £9 up north :'( :'( :'( :'(
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20+ years ago a pint was around £5- IIRC in Norway :o
Yup - I was over there for a few weeks for work (at the Flymedisinsk Institutt, Oslo) and ate at the cheapest place we could find (called Malik's, I think, a kind of kebab shop a couple of streets back from Karl Johans Gate), even then a meal plus a glass of wine was probably £14..
Lovely place, though, I could quite happily live there if it weren't for...
The taxes is regulated by the weight, co2 emissions and the power in Kw. So there is only 2 or 3 3,2 Omegas in Norway taken in by the importer. I think the price on them was over 75.000£ back in 2003...
...if it weren't for that! ;D
Insignia Estate OPC, starts at £110500,- today....... I rest my case >:(
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Right boys and girls repeat after me---- :-[
" I will stop the gripe about taxes as others have to pay more"
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Sehen
I think i need to really look into this??? My miggy drives like a boat on logs... Im not here to (pub) the thing up neither am i a (pubber)
Nice set of alloys lowered all round sports exhaust and thats it... :-X : :y
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hi have noticed in this section that some peeps have poly bushe's for thier omegas can you tell me where you get them please. i have lower my mv6 40mm on spax springs and running bilstein shocks used eibach eccentric camber bolts on front, am running 235x 45 on front and 245x 40 on rear handles like a dream, comfort levels not bad at all, the only problem that i have is the bloody speed bumps ahhhh >:( would have done better with a 30mm drop.
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Do a search for "Omega Powerflex bushes" on ebay.
For the front, The front wishbone bush is available and also a set containing the front wishbone bush and anti-roll bar bushes. Most people fit justt eh front wishbone bushes, which make a good improvement. Rear front wishbone bush is not generally available as a poly bush.
Make sure you're looking at the Omega B (to2003) bushes nto Omega A (although I'm not sure if they are different.
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cheers for that poly's here i come :)