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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: aaronjb on 02 December 2011, 09:17:23
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http://www.bridgestone.eu/tyres/tyre-advice/eu-tyre-labeling
For Mr Gixxer, the labels have a noise level shown (I seem to recall he's not a fan of noisy tyres), and for Cem .. no longer will he have to dredge up dozens of tyre tests .. now he can just point to the label on a Falken and say to Chris, "Look! Best tyre available!" ;)
;D
(I bet all the super sticky tyres will look bad with a rolling resistance rating of 'G' .. then again, they're soon to be banned for road use anyway, aren't they.. meddling EU.)
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Yeah, thats that issue sorted then... :)
Re noisy tyres, my experiences sugest its a dufficult compromise tyre makers face. Tyres that track well seem to be noisy, and hence quiet ones wander off line 5 times every second. Which makes falkens very quiet, and Dunlops, Sc3, bridgestones esp, quite noisy. ... Ime!
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So .. Falkens are a great tyre if you want a quiet one? ;) *ducks*
I notice the Neuton's are quiet but wandery in the extreme.. although I should really probably get the geometry checked before I condemn the tyres for that!
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I notice the Neuton's are quiet but wandery in the extreme.. although I should really probably get the geometry checked before I condemn the tyres for that!
I'm afraid I don't think it will make any difference ::) I have them on the back (thankfully) but if things work out right they'll be coming off next year anyway :y
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So .. Falkens are a great tyre if you want a quiet one? ;) *ducks*
I notice the Neuton's are quiet but wandery in the extreme.. although I should really probably get the geometry checked before I condemn the tyres for that!
they can be the quitest tyres in the world, not much good sat in the bin though. :)
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Where are the ratings for dry grip, wear rate and "@rse puckeryness on the limit of adhesion"? (sorry-can't come up with a better expression). Oh, and I suppose we'd have to have a "gixer moan factor" for the Falkens. ;)
No, in the cosy, cotton woll wrapped, nanny knows best EU nobody dances around on the limits of adhesion. All we're worried about is safety and our environmental footprint. ;D
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No, in the cosy, cotton woll wrapped, nanny knows best EU nobody dances around on the limits of adhesion. All we're worried about is safety and our environmental footprint. ;D
Yup pretty much ;) Although technically wear rate (and, therefore, dry grip?) are already printed on the tyre.. for those who understand tyre labelling, anyway.
I'd love to see the pretty little graphic symbol for @rse puckeryness on the limit, though.. Perhaps a brown star? ;D ;D
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Or tested by TuBy to the absolute maximum limit ;)
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I'd love to see the pretty little graphic symbol for @rse puckeryness on the limit, though.. Perhaps a brown star? ;D ;D
Yep, brown star with level of dilation inversely proportional to the confidence inspired by the tyre. ;D
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Yep, brown star with level of dilation inversely proportional to the confidence inspired by the tyre. ;D
;D ;D ;D
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http://www.bridgestone.eu/tyres/tyre-advice/eu-tyre-labeling (http://www.bridgestone.eu/tyres/tyre-advice/eu-tyre-labeling)
For Mr Gixxer, the labels have a noise level shown (I seem to recall he's not a fan of noisy tyres), and for Cem .. no longer will he have to dredge up dozens of tyre tests .. now he can just point to the label on a Falken and say to Chris, "Look! Best tyre available!" ;)
;D
(I bet all the super sticky tyres will look bad with a rolling resistance rating of 'G' .. then again, they're soon to be banned for road use anyway, aren't they.. meddling EU.)
??? [checks the link while trying to understand, then...] ;D ;D ;D :y
I like it..I think really useful.. :y :y
but not sure cheapo tire makers will like/accept it.. in any case it will protect the ordinary consumer from acidentally buying crap tires.. :)
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now thinking, it could be better for them to print their brake power g values (for wet and dry) , lateral g values (dry and wet), rolling resistence factor, sidewall softness factor and silica percentage directly.. erm, may be I want too much ;D ;D :y
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now thinking, it could be better for them to print their brake power g values (for wet and dry) , lateral g values (dry and wet), rolling resistence factor, sidewall softness factor and silica percentage directly.. erm, may be I want too much ;D ;D :y
;D ;D I think you'd miss the point of their 'lowest common denominator' (i.e. stupid people) labelling, too ;) (FWIW, though I think it says it on the article - all our electrical goods are labelled the same way here, are they in Turkey, too?).
I do think it's a decent idea for 'regular people' .. but driving gods such as ourselves would be better served by the statistics you list ;)
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now thinking, it could be better for them to print their brake power g values (for wet and dry) , lateral g values (dry and wet), rolling resistence factor, sidewall softness factor and silica percentage directly.. erm, may be I want too much ;D ;D :y
;D ;D I think you'd miss the point of their 'lowest common denominator' (i.e. stupid people) labelling, too ;) (FWIW, though I think it says it on the article - all our electrical goods are labelled the same way here, are they in Turkey, too?).
I do think it's a decent idea for 'regular people' .. but driving gods such as ourselves would be better served by the statistics you list ;)
depending on location where the product is consumed.. exports will be likely.. but standards enstitute here have different specs than EU..
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No, in the cosy, cotton woll wrapped, nanny knows best EU nobody dances around on the limits of adhesion. All we're worried about is safety and our environmental footprint. ;D
Yup pretty much ;) Although technically wear rate (and, therefore, dry grip?) are already printed on the tyre.. for those who understand tyre labelling, anyway.
I'd love to see the pretty little graphic symbol for @rse puckeryness on the limit, though.. Perhaps a brown star? ;D ;D
or Y Front symbols denoting the number needing washed per week, for Pirelli's just one, for Wanli's five.
Ken
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now thinking, it could be better for them to print their brake power g values (for wet and dry) , lateral g values (dry and wet), rolling resistence factor, sidewall softness factor and silica percentage directly.. erm, may be I want too much ;D ;D :y
;D ;D I think you'd miss the point of their 'lowest common denominator' (i.e. stupid people) labelling, too ;) (FWIW, though I think it says it on the article - all our electrical goods are labelled the same way here, are they in Turkey, too?).
I do think it's a decent idea for 'regular people' .. but driving gods such as ourselves would be better served by the statistics you list ;)
Perhaps they should offer tyres based on your IQ. You go into the tyre shop, have to sit an IQ test, and are offered tyre types depending on the results. E.g. if thick you get offered Wanlli ditch finders, if bright you get the choice of quality stuff. :y
Ken
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Maybe a government funded road safety initiative. You take the tyre fitter for a quick spin round the block and, if you manage to convince him that you are "challenging" run of the mill tyres, you get subsidised sticky rubber to keep you safe on the roads.
I don't know, perhaps Yokohama A032Rs in the summer and 21Rs in the winter. Yeah, that would do. Changed monthly, of course. Actually, better make that twice a month. ::)
.. and I'm awake again. :(