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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Stallion on 21 December 2011, 07:48:20
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3 Questions for those who have changed their gearbox oil..
1. just thinking what would OOF'ers views be on changing the ATF, is it more headache than it seems (DIY oil change)..
2. How did you guys know (any symptoms) that you needed to get the oil changed
3. What sort of mileage does Vx say to change it??
Thanx guys ;) ;)
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OOFers recomend a change every 60,000 miles.
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Im waay past that mileage :( :( so thats 1/3 reasons to do it.
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Easy enough, but messy job.
remove both sumps,
clean / replace filter
clean mating faces, reassemble with new gaskets, or pref instant gasket
refill with new ATF
Shower, many, many times to get rid if the stuff.
about every 60000, but according to VX...sealed for life!
needs doing to improve smoothness of box really.
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Thanks Jimbob, now just need the courage to attempt it! :-\
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Any idea how long it would take ???
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a good 1/2 day will be needed
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Easy enough, but messy job.
remove both sumps,
clean / replace filter
clean mating faces, reassemble with new gaskets, or pref instant gasket
refill with new ATF
Shower, many, many times to get rid if the stuff.
about every 60000, but according to VX...sealed for life!
needs doing to improve smoothness of box really.
Don't forget to get a new sump washer.
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But if you find bits of plastic in the front sump.... .....double bugger!
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But if you find bits of plastic in the front sump.... .....double bugger!
??? ???
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Thats the thrust washer, and a gearbox off job to replace.
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Personally have never done this on a drive way, always sort a lift, either at a friendly auto specialist locally that I know, as it's got to be worth £60 labour for him to do it, or at a meet on here. Guffers cam belt meet was ESP handy with pits and lifts.
Its very messy, and being able to stand straight under the car while working for such a length of time is a must for me.
Re symptoms, if your lucky, thumping while engaging gears is usually the first sign. If your unlucky, loss of drive, slipping, limp mode, and a fubar box.
Get the ATF changed.
Ps clean the filter, rather than renew.
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Although, inviting debate on this, is it worth even cleaning the filter? ESP if no oddities are found.
It's not a fine mesh filter by any means. The magnet catches fine particles in the sump, so any large particles are for the filter to catch. Which can be removed or shaken out. And let's face it, if you've got large bits of debris you have a lot more to worry about than changing/cleaning the filter.
Plus, given only a percentage of the ATF an be removed, a spanking clean filter seems a little pointless.
I suppose cleaning purely to check for debris is all that's needed.
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Personally though Chris, if I was going to the trouble of dropping the sumps plus renewing the gearbox oil, I would put on a new filter. :-*
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I put a new filter on the first time round then cleaned the old one at my leisure, so it's ready for next time.
If it's done galactic miles on the current fluid I would have a new filter to hand in case the old one isn't fit to re-use. Besides, the chap who advertises in straight 6 news does filter plus gaskets for 30 quid IIRC.
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Compared to all the messing about jacking it up, draining the old oil(why isn't there a drain plug? It isn't a Ford!), putting it all back together and cleaning up afterwards, I took advantage of our staff labour rate.
The apprentice got to 'enjoy' the job.
£15 well spent!
It's much better now; the gearshifts are much smoother.
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Does your apprentice fancy earning another £15=00 + a little extra for his Christamas box :y :y :y ;if he wants to do mine too ?? ;D
All gaskets and oil supplied with a couple of bottles of shampoo :y
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I sense there may be a queue forming ;D
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He could become the "Offical OOF Gearbox Oil Changer". :y
Now holding that status perhaps we won,t even get charged ;D
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Does your apprentice fancy earning another £15=00 + a little extra for his Christamas box :y :y :y ;if he wants to do mine too ?? ;D
All gaskets and oil supplied with a couple of bottles of shampoo :y
Unfortunately for you, I can only get that rate for my own car; not even other family ones.
I don't particularly like not doing my own work, but this is a job that I just couldn't face.
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Pity ,but worth asking. ;D
Whats the normal labour rate for the work then ..all parts supplied by me ? :y
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Kevin, how much would they be from the stealers TC or normal ;)
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i did this couple of months back as mine went into limp mod when cold then cleared itself when hot ,i found large sump ok to get off but small sump covered me in oil as still had alot of oil in and was well stuck,it turned out she,d never been done and had covered 140.000 funny as it had service record covering everything,one thing i did was getting a fence paint pump sprayer from bq removed lance this is very good to pump atf fluid back in to transmission,local vx dealer reckoned every 70.000 for fluid, glad i got a filter as mine was gunged right up now smooth as silk.took me an hour but i borrowed a ramp to old to lay on the ground these days. ;D
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Easy enough, but messy job.
remove both sumps,
clean / replace filter
clean mating faces, reassemble with new gaskets, or pref instant gasket
refill with new ATF
Shower, many, many times to get rid if the stuff.
about every 60000, but according to VX...sealed for life!
needs doing to improve smoothness of box really.
Unless it being used as a cab for example, then vx recommend 100k. :y