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Title: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Weds on 22 December 2011, 15:03:17
Recently bought a new 2ton trolley jack to help me with removing my rear wishbone bushes (see other thread) I thought my other halfords special wouldn't have enough height.

Use my new jack to do one side ok, but when used on the other side of the car the jack wont lift the car high enough as the handle has run out of stroke, it appears as if its low on oil and wont pump any more.

So I take it back to Machine Mart, guy takes it out the box and says its because the releasing screw is undone, I explain I'm not that stupid and had to release the screw to lower the jack and get it back in the box. So he proceeds to take it outside and jack up a car in the car park, (which I assume is his) and low and behold it wont lift very far. So I get a replacement..

And guess what, this new ones even bloody worse !!! hardly jacks up at all.. I wonder if they'll pay my petrol at about 20miles round trip each time...

   
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 22 December 2011, 15:21:09
Can't see for a minute they will give you your out of pocket fuel money.
I bought a Sealey 3tonne trolley Jack off Fleabay which will go high enough to lift both wheels off the floor at once.
About £70 iirc
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 December 2011, 15:25:04
Has the fluid level been checked? Wondering if they just put a dash of fluid in them to test, lest it leaks out inside the container on its' way over from China. ;)

Then again, it's up to Machine Mart to ensure the product works when sold.
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Weds on 22 December 2011, 15:41:11
Has the fluid level been checked? Wondering if they just put a dash of fluid in them to test, lest it leaks out inside the container on its' way over from China. ;)

Then again, it's up to Machine Mart to ensure the product works when sold.

Precisely, I could strip it down to find out but why, but its brand new. 
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 22 December 2011, 16:00:33
Forget a 2 tonne. Get a proper 3 tonne job....
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: pscocoa on 22 December 2011, 16:10:50
they may reimburse you in goods but not in cash I suspect
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: raywilb on 22 December 2011, 19:06:10
Recently bought a new 2ton trolley jack to help me with removing my rear wishbone bushes (see other thread) I thought my other halfords special wouldn't have enough height.

Use my new jack to do one side ok, but when used on the other side of the car the jack wont lift the car high enough as the handle has run out of stroke, it appears as if its low on oil and wont pump any more.

So I take it back to Machine Mart, guy takes it out the box and says its because the releasing screw is undone, I explain I'm not that stupid and had to release the screw to lower the jack and get it back in the box. So he proceeds to take it outside and jack up a car in the car park, (which I assume is his) and low and behold it wont lift very far. So I get a replacement..

And guess what, this new ones even bloody worse !!! hardly jacks up at all.. I wonder if they'll pay my petrol at about 20miles round trip each time...

 
i bought a 3t from machine mart last year, that too is crap. ended up recently getting the black one from b&q. does the job, a lot more of a professional. downside its heavy. :y
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Weds on 22 December 2011, 19:18:43
they may reimburse you in goods but not in cash I suspect

After a bit of foot stamping, I got my money back, there was talk of sending it away to their technical dept for them to look at. Hardly seemed worth all that it was only £38...
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Ian_D on 22 December 2011, 21:31:48
Recently bought a new 2ton trolley jack to help me with removing my rear wishbone bushes (see other thread) I thought my other halfords special wouldn't have enough height.

Use my new jack to do one side ok, but when used on the other side of the car the jack wont lift the car high enough as the handle has run out of stroke, it appears as if its low on oil and wont pump any more.

So I take it back to Machine Mart, guy takes it out the box and says its because the releasing screw is undone, I explain I'm not that stupid and had to release the screw to lower the jack and get it back in the box. So he proceeds to take it outside and jack up a car in the car park, (which I assume is his) and low and behold it wont lift very far. So I get a replacement..

And guess what, this new ones even bloody worse !!! hardly jacks up at all.. I wonder if they'll pay my petrol at about 20miles round trip each time...

 
i bought a 3t from machine mart last year, that too is crap. ended up recently getting the black one from b&q. does the job, a lot more of a professional. downside its heavy. :y
Agree! Cheers for bringing it to my grans and giving me a hand Ray!

I might have to get one for myself.  :)
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Ian_D on 22 December 2011, 21:38:16
Has the fluid level been checked? Wondering if they just put a dash of fluid in them to test, lest it leaks out inside the container on its' way over from China. ;)

Then again, it's up to Machine Mart to ensure the product works when sold.
Sounds like low fluid to me too Kevin.

I've got a cheap and nasty 2T jack (think it was from Netto a good few years ago - about £20 iirc). It gave up about half way up - topped the oil up and it was fine again for a couple of months. Then it wouldn't go more than half way again... So topped it up again and all was fine. Had to do this 3-4 times now. Its strange that its not visually leaking any oil anywhere though! Don’t really trust it with the Omega anyway really - especially after its drinking spurt!  :-X
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 22 December 2011, 22:25:57
Don’t really trust it with the Omega anyway really - especially after its drinking spurt!  :-X

So long as you're not under it without stands/ ramps/ someone fatter than you under there, you can get away with it. But I'd still be spending the extra on a decent one.

Mine is a Machine Mart 3 tonner, it's done 6 years of sterling service with the odd checkover to make sure everything's tickety-boo. If and when it decides to die, I'll be whacking in the overtime and getting some sort of fancy one... I'll have a laugh and see how much a Snap-on one is...
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Nick W on 22 December 2011, 22:26:50
I've bought a number of jacks over the last 20 years, plus used several at work, and every one of them only had enough oil in it to prove it works.
To actually use them, they ALL needed to be topped up and bled.
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 22 December 2011, 22:31:46
Don’t really trust it with the Omega anyway really - especially after its drinking spurt!  :-X
I'll have a laugh and see how much a Snap-on one is...

...£630 for an aluminium one (weighing 30kg!), or £730 for a regular one. That's a lot of overtime...
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: feeutfo on 22 December 2011, 23:00:35
Ime 2.5 ton minimum to be man enough to lift the omega with regular use.

2.0 just folded up side ways and wont lift high enough to place ramps under wheels for wb bolt tightening wheels loaded. Although that's not necessary with poly.


Ime anyway.
Title: Re: Machine Mart rant...
Post by: Vamps on 23 December 2011, 01:33:48
I've bought a number of jacks over the last 20 years, plus used several at work, and every one of them only had enough oil in it to prove it works.
To actually use them, they ALL needed to be topped up and bled.

I have two, one a high lift, both years old, working fine and never been topped up, never been checked either mind....... ::) ::)  as long as they work....... :y
If I have had any problem with them it is that they do not go low enough for some situations...... ::)