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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Marie on 16 March 2008, 10:23:50
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to let me convert my motor to LPG?
he likes the idea and is up for it but is a bit slow in giving me the go ahead. All because i said that i would payfor it using my overdraft. Whats wrong with that?
This coversion would be done with the help from the master (as i call him) James.
The kit i am looking at is :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330219252922&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014
they are only round the corner from me too.
the cost of this kit would be recouped by the savings in fuel on the mileage we have planned this year. the only thing we wont have covered is price of the tank. (hubby wants a spare wheel one, i agree) oh and James labour charge ;D ;D ;D ;D
so ok how do i convince my hubby or do i just do it?
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A woman waiting for her hubby's permission before spending mony - Marie -- you are a RARE find!!
That said -- I would go ahead and do it -- you can always fall back on the "I thought you had said yes" -- seeing as he is up for it ..reeeeaally ;)
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when i asked him again this mornin he said when asked:
so what do you think to the lpg conversion??
Reply its a good idea
you dont like the thought of usin my overdraft do you?
reply no not really you have only just cleared 2/3 of it
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when i asked him again this mornin he said when asked:
so what do you think to the lpg conversion??
Reply its a good idea
you dont like the thought of usin my overdraft do you?
reply no not really you have only just cleared 2/3 of it
Clear off some more overdraft & have the conversion done at a later date, but if you have it done now you'll start saving right away, which means the overdraft will be paid off quicker, but you'll have the extra on top don't forget.
My mate has his own haulage business & he told me the other day that his business account's overdrawn by £10,000 :o :o :o :o & his personal account is overdrawn too :o :o :o :o
I said have you any funds at all, he said not really :-[
I asked him if he wanted to borrow some & he said no, because that just means another debt. He can leave paying me back for as long as is needed, but he declined.
Sensible i suppose, but he did say that he got himself in it & he'll get outa it.
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How much will the LPG save against interest you'll pay on the conversion cost? Might make more sense to wait. Depends...
That's a good kit. Same as we fitted to James' car. I wouldn't have any worries about the practical side of converting it. Will be a piece of cake on a 4-pot.
Kevin
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its not that big of an overdraft....
£1500 intotal and i am only £400 in it. cost of conversion @£600
The saving in fuel on planed journys alone this year (well until aug) would be@ £380.
most of these journies are cos jase is being drafted away from home and his weekend mileage will work out to be 160miles. he might do this journy up to 15 times between may and aug.
im torn what do i do?
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Plenty of head room - what are the interest rates like?
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Plenty of head room - what are the interest rates like?
i pay the interest rate monthly.
when i had my overdraft maxed out i was paying @ £13-15 per month in interest.
its not that bad really cheep i think. works out at around the 12% mark yearly
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Sounds like it's financially viable, then. Next question is whether you're happy with the car and intend to keep it for the foreseeable..
If you need somewhere undercover to do the conversion there's a garage in Alton available. I'm sure JamesV6CDX will be along for the weekend again at the slightest whiff of LPG. ;)
Kevin
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Sounds like it's financially viable, then. Next question is whether you're happy with the car and intend to keep it for the foreseeable..
If you need somewhere undercover to do the conversion there's a garage in Alton available. I'm sure JamesV6CDX will be along for the weekend again at the slightest whiff of LPG. ;)
Kevin
The car is going nowhere i want to keep her. for aleast the next 5yrs or so and more so if i convert her. i also have you guys to help me keep the cost of fixing her down too. most work i can do myself if not i know where i can get hold of a great second pair of hands to help ;D ;D ;D ;D
The only problem i have wit her at the mo i the small atf leak in the bell housing which james has said that i souldnt worry about it too much and the gearbox need time to settle and check it again in 500 miles. i think about it but not worried cos i know if their is a snag with it james has said he would help me correct it it cant be anything major at worst its the torque converter seal and that only cost £30 and a days work dropping the gearbox out again to fit it.
The alton garage sounds like a plan. means i wouldnt have to worry about the weather prospects on the day. and its only 30 miles away. its it your place?
james has already offered to help me convert it. and i offered to help him convert his new motor(when he gets it)
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I have this kit as well fitted on my V6.
So far i have done 15,000 since conversion (nov) and have had no problems with the kit, any issues i have had have been to do with the installation, one thing i got wrong and one thing the auto sparky messed up.
I put £20 worth of petrol in every month and a half, the rest of the time i am filling up twice weekly with gas @ 49p per litre.
Would i do it again, yes, if you are going for this kit bear in mind you will need the back end kit as well, and ask for Poly pipe, it is a lot easier than running copper tube from front to back
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Get a couple of old Calor Gas Bottles, some copper tubing and some old rubber hose, leave them by the hall way.
When he ask's, say Ive decided to do it myself, just hope I dont blow myself up!
He'll soon agree!
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Get a couple of old Calor Gas Bottles, some copper tubing and some old rubber hose, leave them by the hall way.
When he ask's, say Ive decided to do it myself, just hope I dont blow myself up!
He'll soon agree!
i am Pi**ing myself laughin...liking it alot. he would go nuts!!!nope ape sh*t!
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he might see the word "overdraft" as bad language
I do!
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I have this kit as well fitted on my V6.
So far i have done 15,000 since conversion (nov) and have had no problems with the kit, any issues i have had have been to do with the installation, one thing i got wrong and one thing the auto sparky messed up.
I put £20 worth of petrol in every month and a half, the rest of the time i am filling up twice weekly with gas @ 49p per litre.
Would i do it again, yes, if you are going for this kit bear in mind you will need the back end kit as well, and ask for Poly pipe, it is a lot easier than running copper tube from front to back
did you diy convert?
the back end kit i am lookin at another 200- 250 for. hubby did ask it i could find a cheaper spare wheel tank on ebay. so i think he will agree its just when?????????????? knowin him it will be next year!
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he might see the word "overdraft" as bad language
I do!
i know i dont like being init ether BUT.....(big but) this will save us money in the long run more so now they want to put the cost of petrol up yet again!
i can have it cleared again buy the end of sept i reckon.
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The alton garage sounds like a plan. means i wouldnt have to worry about the weather prospects on the day. and its only 30 miles away. its it your place?
james has already offered to help me convert it. and i offered to help him convert his new motor(when he gets it)
We did James' current car in the garage here. 3 of us got it done in a weekend although the tank was already mounted. It's just a bit easier when you're out of the weather and have heat, light & beer. Oh, and Mrs. KW's superb cooking. :-*
Am having renewed thoughts about doing my 3.2 as well, as it looks like my road tax is going through the roof. :'(
Kevin
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The alton garage sounds like a plan. means i wouldnt have to worry about the weather prospects on the day. and its only 30 miles away. its it your place?
james has already offered to help me convert it. and i offered to help him convert his new motor(when he gets it)
We did James' current car in the garage here. 3 of us got it done in a weekend although the tank was already mounted. It's just a bit easier when you're out of the weather and have heat, light & beer. Oh, and Mrs. KW's superb cooking. :-*
Am having renewed thoughts about doing my 3.2 as well, as it looks like my road tax is going through the roof. :'(
Kevin
this is cheeper if your converted. the extra cost would be having the conversion checked over for a certificate. i think.
it defo sounds like a plan. right when hubby re appears i am going towork on him some more ;) ;) i tried sexual favours but that didnt work. :( :( he was not in the mood and his legs were hurting.
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i tried sexual favours but that didnt work. Sad Sad he was not in the mood and his legs were hurting.
;D
A poor excuse. ::)
Kevin
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tell me about it!
i think i need to sell it to him some more.
something like:
i have been told its worthwhile doing even with the funds coming out of my overdraft. it can be fitted over a weekend no matter what the weather is like as kevin and his wife have offered for us to use his garage to complete the conversion, they have even offered to feed me too. ;D ;D and james has offered to guide me through the fitting of the system.
you cant get any better unless i let some mupet in a garage do it and pay their labour charge (i would never do.....)
talkin about hubby wonder where he has got to? and he cant be down the pub as he has our son with him to.
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If you can personally afford it then It's a good idea for the car.
I cant see a 4 pot being difficult at all.
I would take Kev up on his kind offer... he has also offered to assist with my new conversion, so it would be worthwhile to work together possibly on them all - including Kevs (which I intend to keep bending his ear until he does ;D )
As before, there is no labour charge from me whatsoever, it's not what the forum is about :y
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If you can personally afford it then It's a good idea for the car.
I cant see a 4 pot being difficult at all.
I would take Kev up on his kind offer... he has also offered to assist with my new conversion, so it would be worthwhile to work together possibly on them all - including Kevs (which I intend to keep bending his ear until he does ;D )
As before, there is no labour charge from me whatsoever, it's not what the forum is about :y
i wasnt takin about £££££. i know you wouldnt take it anyway!! even if i tried ::) ::)
Could we do 3 conversions in a weekend?? this time we wouldnt have my son tryin to help or the dogs escapin on use ether ;D ;D ;D ;D
what you think up for it? if we can work out a weekend that suits all of us?
i would idealy need mine doing before May.
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I don't think we'll do three in a weekend - it's not difficult, but it IS fiddly and time consuming :)
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I don't think we'll do three in a weekend - it's not difficult, but it IS fiddly and time consuming :)
thats what i thought.
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have you found yourself a nice estate yet james???
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have you found yourself a nice estate yet james???
Just sent you a PM - I am watching closely...
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have you found yourself a nice estate yet james???
Just sent you a PM - I am watching closely...
PM received and replied to
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Logging in as we speak...
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to let me convert my motor to LPG?
he likes the idea and is up for it but is a bit slow in giving me the go ahead. All because i said that i would payfor it using my overdraft. Whats wrong with that?
This coversion would be done with the help from the master (as i call him) James.
The kit i am looking at is :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330219252922&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014
they are only round the corner from me too.
the cost of this kit would be recouped by the savings in fuel on the mileage we have planned this year. the only thing we wont have covered is price of the tank. (hubby wants a spare wheel one, i agree) oh and James labour charge ;D ;D ;D ;D
so ok how do i convince my hubby or do i just do it?
WE ALL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RED AND NORMAL DIESEL, RED IS CHEAPER BECAUSE IT IS NOT FOR ROAD USE AND CARRIES LESS TAXATION.
Now, a pal of mine has converted his volvo to LPG. He works in a factory which has LPG forklifts whizzing around. He reckons that the LPG in the special bottles for the forklifts is the same as Red diesel, i.e. attracts less duty as it is not for road use. He has bought a hand operated pump and fills his car from a foklift bottle once a week, remembering to lie the bottle down and keep the arrow painted on the bottom of the bottle pointing downwards - this is the liquid pick up point.According to him it is half the price of retail LPG and works fine. The pump was £60 + vat. Don't know how much or what amount the bottles contain, he seems happy about it, and it is proper autogas and not the stuff for heaters and bbq's. Any thoughts?
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Marie,
Yes i did my conversion myself, hence the mistakes, >:(
the suggestion that theowletman came up with has been talked about......and can be done without any issue as an LPG tank cannot be dipped (it is under pressure)
The only thing to remember is to filter the LPG as part of the pumping process
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Laughably, I came across the opposite the other day - vapour cylinders that you can fill up at LPG stations and take away to use for stoves, barbies, etc.
So, I get to pay road fuel duty to run my barbecue. Not rather likely. ;D
Kevin
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Laughably, I came across the opposite the other day - vapour cylinders that you can fill up at LPG stations and take away to use for stoves, barbies, etc.
So, I get to pay road fuel duty to run my barbecue. Not rather likely. ;D
Kevin
i concur. pigs might fly first ;D ;D ;D
so when are we going to get your motor converted? james says he keep tryin to get you to convert but with no luck.
i recon i have got jase 90% of the way to agreeing just doont want to push him too far just yet give him a few days to mull it over then ill try again.
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to let me convert my motor to LPG?
he likes the idea and is up for it but is a bit slow in giving me the go ahead. All because i said that i would payfor it using my overdraft. Whats wrong with that?
This coversion would be done with the help from the master (as i call him) James.
The kit i am looking at is :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330219252922&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014
they are only round the corner from me too.
the cost of this kit would be recouped by the savings in fuel on the mileage we have planned this year. the only thing we wont have covered is price of the tank. (hubby wants a spare wheel one, i agree) oh and James labour charge ;D ;D ;D ;D
so ok how do i convince my hubby or do i just do it?
WE ALL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RED AND NORMAL DIESEL, RED IS CHEAPER BECAUSE IT IS NOT FOR ROAD USE AND CARRIES LESS TAXATION.
Now, a pal of mine has converted his volvo to LPG. He works in a factory which has LPG forklifts whizzing around. He reckons that the LPG in the special bottles for the forklifts is the same as Red diesel, i.e. attracts less duty as it is not for road use. He has bought a hand operated pump and fills his car from a foklift bottle once a week, remembering to lie the bottle down and keep the arrow painted on the bottom of the bottle pointing downwards - this is the liquid pick up point.According to him it is half the price of retail LPG and works fine. The pump was £60 + vat. Don't know how much or what amount the bottles contain, he seems happy about it, and it is proper autogas and not the stuff for heaters and bbq's. Any thoughts?
There is no difference and no way of telling which gas is used
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Laughably, I came across the opposite the other day - vapour cylinders that you can fill up at LPG stations and take away to use for stoves, barbies, etc.
So, I get to pay road fuel duty to run my barbecue. Not rather likely. ;D
Kevin
I refill my 13kg propane at the local most expensive place £12 approx, a new one from Calor is £20 or so
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Laughably, I came across the opposite the other day - vapour cylinders that you can fill up at LPG stations and take away to use for stoves, barbies, etc.
So, I get to pay road fuel duty to run my barbecue. Not rather likely. ;D
Kevin
i concur. pigs might fly first ;D ;D ;D
so when are we going to get your motor converted? james says he keep tryin to get you to convert but with no luck.
i recon i have got jase 90% of the way to agreeing just doont want to push him too far just yet give him a few days to mull it over then ill try again.
If you think autogas is expensive try swapping your bottle - much pricier
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If you think autogas is expensive try swapping your bottle - much pricier
It's the principal. If they can't provide a way for the government NOT to get fuel duty on it I wouldn't buy it. >:(
Kevin
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Don't know if anyones interested but someone's breaking an Omega V6 with a sequential LPG system, up in Leek, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BREAKING-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-5-V6-WITH-LPG-CONVERSION_W0QQitemZ260220484009QQihZ016QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Might save a few bob :y
Ken
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to let me convert my motor to LPG?
Do you really need me to tell you.... ::) ::) ::) :y
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to let me convert my motor to LPG?
Do you really need me to tell you.... ::) ::) ::) :y
She tried, and failed ;D ;D
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to let me convert my motor to LPG?
Do you really need me to tell you.... ::) ::) ::) :y
She tried, and failed ;D ;D
He shouldn't have been so hasty. Sure there are ways and means.. Without straning one's legs.. :-X
;)
Kevin
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to let me convert my motor to LPG?
Do you really need me to tell you.... ::) ::) ::) :y
She tried, and failed ;D ;D
He shouldn't have been so hasty. Sure there are ways and means.. Without straning one's legs.. :-X
;)
Kevin
Oh dont you worry ill get him to agree one way or another........just trying the nice easy way an if that dont work ill conflict some pain on him!
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yippy..............
Just chatting to thehubby about the cost of the lpg tank (£235 spare wheel tank inc kit) andthat its only only pick up from fareham.
and wouldyou beleive the response i got.......
"go get it then"
it took me 3 mins to figure out he had agreed. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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yippy..............
Just chatting to thehubby about the cost of the lpg tank (£235 spare wheel tank inc kit) andthat its only only pick up from fareham.
and wouldyou beleive the response i got.......
"go get it then"
it took me 3 mins to figure out he had agreed. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Result... :y :y :y
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brought and paid for i pick it the kit up on friday. hubby cant change his mind now!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
the bloke was excellent. has said that he will spend at least an hour going through all the items with me. explain what they are how they work and the best place to locate them.
he has offered for me to go and see them after i have completed the conversion for a safety check and report, (free) and should i get any snags in the future he will have his guys look at the motor along side me and help fault diagnose with me. not that i should have any problems.
very nice man has just spent 30 mins at least on the phone with me to make sure we get the right sized tank to fit the spare wheel hole and explainin aa few of my questions too.
i cant wait to get it converted now! its christmas all over again. :) :) :) :) :)
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Is this Jeremy?
He does seem a helpful chap.
Kevin
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Is this Jeremy?
He does seem a helpful chap.
Kevin
bl00dy hell.......Yes i beleive it is. very nice bloke. how do you know him?
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We've both had lots of dealings with Jeremy, on our LPG investigations...
He also supplied my Kit ;)
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We've both had lots of dealings with Jeremy, on our LPG investigations...
He also supplied my Kit ;)
wicked gone to the right place then! :) :) :) :)