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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 29 December 2011, 09:43:24
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Fixed the socket that decided to give up during the Christmas lunch >:(
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/odds/cooker_socker.jpg)
Now the rather dishwasher has gone tits-up again. For the love of god >:(
Still after a service manual for FDW70, but does anyone know if sump pump and wash pump are the same unit, or seperate, as both of these seem to be non functional (not dragged the dishwasher out yet to start stripping)
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What's the dishwasher symptoms TB ? Not got a manual but had a few dishwashers semi apart trying to figure out drain or fill issues. Not 100% - but think empty pump is seperate to wash pump if that helps :P
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http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2027673#2027673
Is this any help? If not someone on the DIYnot forum will help out. :y
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Good lord, TB.. what did you do to that socket? How many amps got sucked through that to break the insulation down to the point that the casing melted..
(And what era is the wiring in your house to use solid core wire?)
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(And what era is the wiring in your house to use solid core wire
thats not solid core wiring ;D ;D
thats the indicator lamp :y its a double pole switch :y
TB looks like a loose connection has furbared the switch mate :y
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Are you sure it is the pump and not a blocked drain hose/pipe. This is first area to check if not emptying - not sure if that is your problem though
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I have a two repair limit on most appliances. If it brakes again, out to pasture. Usually because by the time you've forked out on said two repairs and buggered about sourcing parts, down time, and possibly broken or found other faults while in there, could have bought a new for the same money.
Get a new one J. Our Bosch has been good as gold.
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...so far. Before I jinx it. ;D
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TB have you any codes flashing on the dishwasher ??
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(And what era is the wiring in your house to use solid core wire
thats not solid core wiring ;D ;D
thats the indicator lamp :y its a double pole switch :y
TB looks like a loose connection has furbared the switch mate :y
So it is! I thought it looked a bit small to be on a socket in a kitchen.. ;D
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Problem found with dishwasher, knowing it was 2 seperate pumps (I couldn't remember, despite being always under the friggin' thing) implied the fault was some kind of safety cutout, as the display and electronic program selector was fully functional.
So, first thing to check was door switch. Bingo. Switch looks OK, but connector is badly burnt. Cleaned it up with contact cleaner, and dishwasher now works (and making its way through all the xmas related washing up, STILL!), but I will need to replace the connector if I can find one.
Cheers guys :y
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Get a new one J. Our Bosch has been google as gold.
Mine has started to 'ignore' the start button.. then again I've no idea how old it is or how abused it got before I moved in as the previous owners left it in the kitchen when they moved out ;D (probably the door switch but I have zero patience for repairing home electricals.. so I'll replace it when the kitchen is done)
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TB looks like a loose connection has furbared the switch mate :y
I'd normally agree (esp considering how most sparks fit these things), but in this case I believe it was a failing switch heating it all up - not obvious from pic, but the worse looks around switch contact. But who knows after the event for sure.
Either way, end result is the same, new switch, cleaned up cable, heatshrunk the burned insulation, fitted, pushed into place for 5 mins, remove, retighten all connections, refit. Job done.
It may have been failing for a while, but Christmas Day is probably the only day of the year when both ovens are on, along with all 4 hobs, pulling probably nigh on 45A... ...which reminds me, must check trip, aren't cooker circuits normally 32A :o
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aren't cooker circuits normally 32A
yup minimum 32amp depending on size of cable going to it, hopefully 6mm minimum cable size :y
oh is dishwasher a hoypoint or indesit ?
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I have a two repair limit on most appliances. If it brakes again, out to pasture. Usually because by the time you've forked out on said two repairs and buggered about sourcing parts, down time, and possibly broken or found other faults while in there, could have bought a new for the same money.
Get a new one J. Our Bosch has been good as gold.
This is its 3rd repair, although I think the 1st two were the same (if you recall, in the summer, I failed to find fault, and it started working after I got back from hols).
But seeing as all home appliances are the result of extreme penny pinching, slowly you end up fixing all the shortcuts the manufacturer has taken.
Don't Bosch and Hotpoint come off the same lines, or has that changed since Indeshit took them over?
I believe this one is actually still under parts warranty, but you cop the labour charge, which is extreme (I guess to cover parts cost ::)), and in my experience of most home appliance repair people, its better to just do it yourself.
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aren't cooker circuits normally 32A
yup minimum 32amp depending on size of cable going to it, hopefully 6mm minimum cable size :y
Yup, std 6mm 7 strand. Sure the trip is a 32 though. Consumer unit a bit of a sod to get to, but will double check next time I'm dragging junk out of the cupboard ;D
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It may have been failing for a while, but Christmas Day is probably the only day of the year when both ovens are on, along with all 4 hobs, pulling probably nigh on 45A
i hope that statement isnt implying that your dishwasher is on the same circuit as your cooker ??
the cooker should be a seperate circuit and dishwasher on with kitchen general ring or its own circuit :y
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It may have been failing for a while, but Christmas Day is probably the only day of the year when both ovens are on, along with all 4 hobs, pulling probably nigh on 45A
i hope that statement isnt implying that your dishwasher is on the same circuit as your cooker ??
the cooker should be a seperate circuit and dishwasher on with kitchen general ring or its own circuit :y
Cooker is on its own dedicated circuit, as it should be (excluding the 13A socket that is part of the cooker switch, this is also obviously on cooker circuit).
Not sure what dishwasher is on, guess the kitchen ring main, never bothered to check ;D
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All I know is Bosch, Siemens, Neff are the same company, since we had a small issue with a neff oven replaced under warranty with a siemens, they just charge progressively more for each name. Not aware of any other brands involved tbh. :-\
Repair men are out here too. Clumsy eejits and too expensive to get to the door.
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esp considering how most sparks fit these things
hmmm didnt pick up on this before, dont tar all sparkies with the same brush mate :o :y
Cooker is on its own dedicated circuit, as it should be (excluding the 13A socket that is part of the cooker switch, this is also obviously on cooker circuit).
Not sure what dishwasher is on, guess the kitchen ring main, never bothered to check
thats ok then :y
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esp considering how most sparks fit these things
hmmm didnt pick up on this before, dont tar all sparkies with the same brush mate :o :y
I did say most ;)
This house was a new build when we bought it, and I suspect the brummie spark Redrow got in to do it was paid thruppence for each house, thus speed was more important than quality.
I was here when he did most of the 1st fit, as I was running in a few reels of Cat5, he seemed a good lad, but the quality of the sockets in particular is the cheapest of the trade shite. Had to change a few now, got a couple more that can't be turned off, so need to replace them when I pull various units out. OOF server hangs off one of the knackered ones, but as thats always on, no hurry.
I come from a family of sparks, so know how to do things, even if it takes a few minutes longer to do it right... ...but its usually easier to ring up my little bro, and get him over if its a few bits that need doing (he lives near Newmarket, so not exactly round the corner!) ::)
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So when did Tunnie brake down then. ;D
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I have a two repair limit on most appliances. If it brakes again, out to pasture. Usually because by the time you've forked out on said two repairs and buggered about sourcing parts, down time, and possibly broken or found other faults while in there, could have bought a new for the same money.
Get a new one J. Our Bosch has been good as gold.
This is its 3rd repair, although I think the 1st two were the same (if you recall, in the summer, I failed to find fault, and it started working after I got back from hols).
But seeing as all home appliances are the result of extreme penny pinching, slowly you end up fixing all the shortcuts the manufacturer has taken.
Don't Bosch and Hotpoint come off the same lines, or has that changed since Indeshit took them over?
I believe this one is actually still under parts warranty, but you cop the labour charge, which is extreme (I guess to cover parts cost ::)), and in my experience of most home appliance repair people, its better to just do it yourself.
For dishawashers, yes.
Its not so obvious these days as it was when the Ultima's were made, the only difference then was a few extra curves on the Hotpoint (with the Bosch being standard crout square shaped).
I would not buy a Bosch if our oven is anythin to go by though!
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I have a two repair limit on most appliances. If it brakes again, out to pasture. Usually because by the time you've forked out on said two repairs and buggered about sourcing parts, down time, and possibly broken or found other faults while in there, could have bought a new for the same money.
Get a new one J. Our Bosch has been good as gold.
This is its 3rd repair, although I think the 1st two were the same (if you recall, in the summer, I failed to find fault, and it started working after I got back from hols).
But seeing as all home appliances are the result of extreme penny pinching, slowly you end up fixing all the shortcuts the manufacturer has taken.
Don't Bosch and Hotpoint come off the same lines, or has that changed since Indeshit took them over?
I believe this one is actually still under parts warranty, but you cop the labour charge, which is extreme (I guess to cover parts cost ::)), and in my experience of most home appliance repair people, its better to just do it yourself.
For dishawashers, yes.
Its not so obvious these days as it was when the Ultima's were made, the only difference then was a few extra curves on the Hotpoint (with the Bosch being standard crout square shaped).
I would not buy a Bosch if our oven is anythin to go by though!
I guess it depends on 'todays' build standard.....i went thro a little phase of buying bosch appliances......dishwasher....15yo packed up last year....used nearly every day....i decided on a new one, rather than get it repaired.....a cheapo indesit....i shall see how long that lasts.
Washing machine, also Bosch, also about 15years old......used 3 to 4 times a week.....still going, tho i did replace a noisy pump motor a few years ago....
Oh and my parents have a bosch dishwasher, same model as mine was, same age....and still going....however it only gets an outing one or twice a week.