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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: omega3000 on 08 January 2012, 15:24:32
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Hi, looking at replacing my aux tensioner/and belt today as it looks fairly old and cracking in places ..question is where is the tensioner and how do you access it , i have all the rads out and pipes from air con removed to make things easier :y
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15mm socket on aux tensioner nut and turn clock wise to lossen belt :y
to replace tensioner pulley undo nut and take off, then replace and do up again.
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top left pulley is tensioner for aux. 15mm spanner, rotate clockwise to move it to slanken belt for removal
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I can see the pulley/tensioner wheel , so is the nut adjuster located at the side ...looks like very awkward access ?
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I can see the pulley wheel , so is the nut adjuster located at the side ...looks like very awkward access ?
Its spring loaded, so no 'adjustment', as fully automatic. 15mm clockwise pushes against spring, allowing belt removal
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I can see the pulley wheel , so is the nut adjuster located at the side ...looks like very awkward access ?
in the middle of the pulley, the whole pulley moves. :y
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I can see the pulley wheel , so is the nut adjuster located at the side ...looks like very awkward access ?
in the middle of the pulley, the whole pulley moves. :y
:y :y :y.....Arr i see , the bolt is inside centrally of the pulley wheel :)
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I can see the pulley wheel , so is the nut adjuster located at the side ...looks like very awkward access ?
in the middle of the pulley, the whole pulley moves. :y
:y :y :y.....Arr i see , the bolt is inside centrally of the pulley wheel :)
yes, put your 15mm spanner on it & turn clockwise, as if you tightening it up, the pulley wheel will move to the right allowing you to remove the belt.
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Got it ....Had a pully shatter on my last 3.0 and the belt wrapped itself in some most unusual places , left me stranded on the M1 :( someone i knew replaced the belt but couldnt remember how he slackened the belt off .
Thanks all :y
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Got it ....Had a pully shatter on my last 3.0 and the belt wrapped itself in some most unusual places , left me stranded on the M1 :( someone i knew replaced the belt but couldnt remember how he slackened the belt off .
Thanks all :y
when fitting the new belt, put over the tensioner pulley 1st, then slide it over the waterpump pulley last as its smooth & it will slide over easier. :y
jon
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Will do :y while looking at the state of the aux belt im wondering when the cambelt was last done ??? I know it was done at 80000 but the car has done 40000 more since . Does the plenum have to come off to remove the cambelt plastic cover ?
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Will do :y while looking at the state of the aux belt im wondering when the cambelt was last done ??? I know it was done at 80000 but the car has done 40000 more since . Does the plenum have to come off to remove the cambelt plastic cover ?
belt & tensioners need replacing then, change waterpump while you at it.
plenum comes off, yes.
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Will do :y while looking at the state of the aux belt im wondering when the cambelt was last done ??? I know it was done at 80000 but the car has done 40000 more since . Does the plenum have to come off to remove the cambelt plastic cover ?
belt & tensioners need replacing then, change waterpump while you at it.
plenum comes off, yes.
Might as well while its all apart , i was thinking when the new rad comes tomorrow just to put it all back together but the cambelt condition would be on my mind ... will enquire how much a kit and pump is and sort it out :y
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Will do :y while looking at the state of the aux belt im wondering when the cambelt was last done ??? I know it was done at 80000 but the car has done 40000 more since . Does the plenum have to come off to remove the cambelt plastic cover ?
belt & tensioners need replacing then, change waterpump while you at it.
plenum comes off, yes.
Might as well while its all apart , i was thinking when the new rad comes tomorrow just to put it all back together but the cambelt condition would be on my mind ... will enquire how much a kit and pump is and sort it out :y
have a look at www.vauxhallworldparts.com
they sometimes have a good deal on gates kits. :y
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This one on ebay i found http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Timing-Cam-Belt-Kit-VAUXHALL-/300640813274?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Model%3AOmega&hash=item45ff96c0da
Not a bad price but ill ask in the local car acc shop if they can do any cheaper ...think its about £23 for a water pump ???
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Implication is thats a 4 pot one? No good to you.
As well as cambelt kit, you will need a cambelt locking/timing kit (tools), not possible without on this engine.
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Is the locking tool available for hire from VX`s do you know ...
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Is the locking tool available for hire from VX`s do you know ...
No.
Where in Northants are you, as I have one in Brackley you can borrow if you are nearby.
I would strongly recommend getting the OOF V6 cambelt DVD, from the OOF shop. £3 well spent IMHO. Even if it does mean you have to look at Marks DTM Calib's legs ;D
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Near kettering so probably about 20 ish miles away .... ok thanks , will PM you soon as the kit arrives , will order the dvd :y
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Near kettering so probably about 20 ish miles away .... ok thanks , will PM you soon as the kit arrives , will order the dvd :y
I'm best part of 20m beyond Northampton...
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Near kettering so probably about 20 ish miles away .... ok thanks , will PM you soon as the kit arrives , will order the dvd :y
I'm best part of 20m beyond Northampton...
Oh , no problem ive got the diesel wagon so could pick up anytime :y
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A good friend of mine once advised me to avoid if it's not GM or don't say 'Gates' on it..
..although you can't argue with buying through GSF can you call them direct?
Maybe cheaper still??
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I bought a kit from gsf last year
For some reason they had the wrong one listed
I only realised it once I had the car apart
Make sure you get the right one
Don't know if a member on here can help you with a pic of the larger tensioner so you can check
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A good friend of mine once advised me to avoid if it's not GM or don't say 'Gates' on it..
..although you can't argue with buying through GSF can you call them direct?
Maybe cheaper still??
SKF, Gates or Contitech are all ok, and Gates and Contitech supply Vx.
On all of teh above, you wont find any difference between any of the plates and tensioners (I strongly suspect they are all made by the same people!)
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Make sure you get the right one
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Hope so , nothing worse than finding out its the wrong fitment on reassembly .
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Hi again all , question : would you advise replacing the aux belt tensioner or can it be serviced/lubed ect ? I know the pulley will need replaced but does the pulley and tensioner come in a kit or can i buy just the pully itself ...i replaced the pulley only from a scrapper on my last mig but not the tensioner . How does the tensioner come off ? ???
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Hi again all , question : would you advise replacing the aux belt tensioner or can it be serviced/lubed ect ? I know the pulley will need replaced but does the pulley and tensioner come in a kit or can i buy just the pully itself ...i replaced the pulley only from a scrapper on my last mig but not the tensioner . How does the tensioner come off ? ???
If the pulley bearing feels dry (they all do by the time the 40k cam belt interval is up, if not before) but there isn't significant play in the bearing yet, you can prise the plastic dust covers off either side with a pin and pack the bearing with grease, then replace the covers.
If it's got play that isn't taken up by the grease, best to replace the pulley, but you can buy it without the sprung tensioner.
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Ok thanks for that ....im replacing the pulley for sure as my last one shattered ....any idea how much a brand new pulley would be as my local parts acc shop dont stock them , said its a VX part only :-\
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Worth giving AndyC a shout, IMHO. :y
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Worth giving AndyC a shout, IMHO. :y
Ok i have sent PM ...hope it was the right AndyC :y
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Ok update : local acc shop has just rang back quoting £90 !!!!!!! for just the pulley :o :o :o :o
£20 for the belt . Having a laugh aint they :-\
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6PK1900 £16 for the fan belt off ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Auxillary-Alternator-Drive-Fan-Belt-6PK1900-VAUXHALL-/380396566253?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item589166f6ed
No way paying £90 for the pulley , i can get the tensioner and pulley and belt for nearly half what the shop are quoting me for the pulley alone , from ebay and thats with free delivery ??? . Makes you wonder am i being ripped off ....by local acc shop >:( >:(
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Belt for V6 - £19 from Vx on TC
Pulley from Vx on TC - £24 last time I bought one.
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Belt for V6 - £19 from Vx on TC
Pulley from Vx on TC - £24 last time I bought one.
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£90 for the pulley only form acc shop so they can stick it >:( Ive checked the pulley and it seems ok , all intact and bearing sound so im just going to replace the belt on its own...Tensioner is working correctly but couldnt find the lube tabs as its still on the car and seems almost impossible to access unless my hands were half the size :-\ :-\ :-\
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Belt for V6 - £19 from Vx on TC
Pulley from Vx on TC - £24 last time I bought one.
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£90 for the pulley only form acc shop so they can stick it >:( Ive checked the pulley and it seems ok , all intact and bearing sound so im just going to replace the belt on its own...Tensioner is working correctly but couldnt find the lube tabs as its still on the car and seems almost impossible to access unless my hands were half the size :-\ :-\ :-\
for the time it takes, undo the 15mm nut in the middle, take the pulley off(only the wheel) pop the red/brown plastic rings out & pack with grease. its realy so easy to do. :y
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pop the red/brown plastic rings out & pack with grease. its realy so easy to do.
Oh i didnt realise there was plastic rings that were removable , but thats on the pulley wheel like you say . Is it possable to lubricate the actual tensioner or is that a sealed unit :-\
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pop the red/brown plastic rings out & pack with grease. its realy so easy to do.
Oh i didnt realise there was plastic rings that were removable , but thats on the pulley wheel like you say . Is it possable to lubricate the actual tensioner or is that a sealed unit :-\
you shouldnt need to, its a spring loaded jobby. just make sure the pulley is greased. :y
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Will do thanks for the info :y :y
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Will do thanks for the info :y :y
your welcome. :y