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Title: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 17:29:03
I finally got round to fitting the cruise on my facelive mv6 3.0 today
(followed guide from forum)


fitted the stalk / brake switch (4 pin) with no prob but had trouble fitting the actuator
due to fittement of lpg

I had a man fit it - just under/side of air box and all connected up but
cruise does not work
have check fuse 15 is working as all other electrical items on fuse work

one thing I noticed was that the wiring loom is quite tight/stretched
when connected to actuator

any ideas?

ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: RobG on 09 January 2012, 17:47:11
I finally got round to fitting the cruise on my facelive mv6 3.0 today
(followed guide from forum)


fitted the stalk / brake switch (4 pin) with no prob but had trouble fitting the actuator
due to fittement of lpg

I had a man fit it - just under/side of air box and all connected up but
cruise does not work
have check fuse 15 is working as all other electrical items on fuse work

one thing I noticed was that the wiring loom is quite tight/stretched
when connected to actuator

any ideas?

ken
What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: jonny2112 on 09 January 2012, 18:05:35
What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s

Is that due to the extended plenum in some cases?
Also, does FL need Tech 2 or is that only if DBW?
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: RobG on 09 January 2012, 18:26:23
What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s

Is that due to the extended plenum in some cases? Yep
Also, does FL need Tech 2 or is that only if DBW?
:y
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 18:32:32
How would I know which cable length I need? ???


My car has a throttle cable - not drive by wire
So I have fitted pre-face lift cruise

Ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 18:34:30
The cable is same as throttle cable!

Ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: RobG on 09 January 2012, 18:39:40
The cable is same as throttle cable!
Ken
Bowden cable (which actuates the cruise) is not the same as the throttle cable ???
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 18:47:33
Can I take it that the Bowden cable
Is the cable that comes out of the
Actuator

If so the tension on the cable is about
Was a little slack until I used a cable tie
To reposition cable

Ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: RobG on 09 January 2012, 19:09:39
Can I take it that the Bowden cable
Is the cable that comes out of the
Actuator

If so the tension on the cable is about
Was a little slack until I used a cable tie
To reposition cable

Ken
Yep. I suggest you doublecheck that the elec. conn. and wiring hasn`t been damaged due to it being overstretched and make sure the Bowden cable inside the casing isn`t being restricted by the fitting of a cable tie
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 19:27:25
Thanks for ur help

Cable movement seems ok
Not notchy but will check out cable

I bought the kit from the forum about 14 months ago
So is there a way to check that I got the one with the correct
Length cable

Ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 19:30:45
Correction to last statement

I will check out the electrical connection
To the actuator

Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: jordan681 on 09 January 2012, 19:45:29
What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s

Is that due to the extended plenum in some cases?
Also, does FL need Tech 2 or is that only if DBW?

Your miggy is the same year and model as mine, and i have retro fitted cruise control..  I had to get the C/C activated(via on board computer) with a Tech 2..  so I think a trip to your local VX garage or maybe someone on here that can do it for you..
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: RobG on 09 January 2012, 19:47:27
What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s

Is that due to the extended plenum in some cases?
Also, does FL need Tech 2 or is that only if DBW?

Your miggy is the same year and model as mine, and i have retro fitted cruise control..  I had to get the C/C activated(via on board computer) with a Tech 2..  so I think a trip to your local VX garage or maybe someone on here that can do it for you..
Shouldn`t need TechII on a 3.0ltr facelift or not
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: jordan681 on 09 January 2012, 19:53:52
What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s

Is that due to the extended plenum in some cases?
Also, does FL need Tech 2 or is that only if DBW?

Your miggy is the same year and model as mine, and i have retro fitted cruise control..  I had to get the C/C activated(via on board computer) with a Tech 2..  so I think a trip to your local VX garage or maybe someone on here that can do it for you..
Shouldn`t need TechII on a 3.0ltr facelift or not

Unfortuatley they do Rob, on the 3.2, 2.6 and the Diesel already have the C/C activated (the DBW) models..  I made the same mistake, and it was someone on here that told me to get the C/C activated.  it also says on the fitting guides in the maintainence section that a Tech 2 is required.
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: RobG on 09 January 2012, 19:59:30
What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s

Is that due to the extended plenum in some cases?
Also, does FL need Tech 2 or is that only if DBW?

Your miggy is the same year and model as mine, and i have retro fitted cruise control..  I had to get the C/C activated(via on board computer) with a Tech 2..  so I think a trip to your local VX garage or maybe someone on here that can do it for you..
Shouldn`t need TechII on a 3.0ltr facelift or not

Unfortuatley they do Rob, on the 3.2, 2.6 and the Diesel already have the C/C activated (the DBW) models..  I made the same mistake, and it was someone on here that told me to get the C/C activated.  it also says on the fitting guides in the maintainence section that a Tech 2 is required.
No they don`t
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: RobG on 09 January 2012, 20:02:59
What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s

Is that due to the extended plenum in some cases?
Also, does FL need Tech 2 or is that only if DBW?

Your miggy is the same year and model as mine, and i have retro fitted cruise control..  I had to get the C/C activated(via on board computer) with a Tech 2..  so I think a trip to your local VX garage or maybe someone on here that can do it for you..
Shouldn`t need TechII on a 3.0ltr facelift or not

Unfortuatley they do Rob, on the 3.2, 2.6 and the Diesel already have the C/C activated (the DBW) models..  I made the same mistake, and it was someone on here that told me to get the C/C activated.  it also says on the fitting guides in the maintainence section that a Tech 2 is required.
No they don`t
If you`re fitting cruise to a 2.5 or 3.0, irrespective of whether it`s a facelift or not, this is the guide you use & no TechII
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90533.0
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 21:01:36
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What`s the bowden cable like re; slackness, two different lengths for the V6`s

Is that due to the extended plenum in some cases?
Also, does FL need Tech 2 or is that only if DBW?

Your miggy is the same year and model as mine, and i have retro fitted cruise control..  I had to get the C/C activated(via on board computer) with a Tech 2..  so I think a trip to your local VX garage or maybe someone on here that can do it for you..
Shouldn`t need TechII on a 3.0ltr facelift or not

Unfortuatley they do Rob, on the 3.2, 2.6 and the Diesel already have the C/C activated (the DBW) models..  I made the same mistake, and it was someone on here that told me to get the C/C activated.  it also says on the fitting guides in the maintainence section that a Tech 2 is required.
No they don`t
If you`re fitting cruise to a 2.5 or 3.0, irrespective of whether it`s a facelift or not, this is the guide you use & no TechII
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90533.0
     

That was the guide I followed

But can anyone tell me how to recognise
The correct length cable
Is there a serial no  ect

Ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: jonny2112 on 09 January 2012, 21:33:27
Mine came from a 2.5, but how big an issue was the lpg? Were you able to use the correct mounting position?
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 21:58:52
No,     I had LPG fitted and they fitted some parts there

It is located in gap just below air box screwed to the wheel
Arch - and rotated 90 degrees so cable points
To steering wheel
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: jonny2112 on 09 January 2012, 22:04:41
I was just wondering if the positioning was affecting the 'length' of the cable. The mounting points dictate the correct placement  :-\
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 09 January 2012, 22:36:32
Without have another car too compare against
Or a better picture of routing of cable it is difficult                                                                too say
And also the fact I am a mechanical novice

Ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: Bob G on 09 January 2012, 22:38:39
I fitted cruise to my 2.0 and had the same problem with the LPG, they had located the ECU for LPG where cruise goes.  Solution moved the LPG bits as the cable run was sufficient and fitted cruise inot its correct location
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: jonny2112 on 09 January 2012, 22:44:02
I fitted cruise to my 2.0 and had the same problem with the LPG, they had located the ECU for LPG where cruise goes.  Solution moved the LPG bits as the cable run was sufficient and fitted cruise inot its correct location

Is there any way the lpg unit can be dislodged temporarily? To allow the cruise module to be mounted correctly to at least rule that issue out?
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 10 January 2012, 02:18:04
Not enough room on LPG pipes ect and would be
Worried about leaks ect

That was why cruise was placed where it is now
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: jonny2112 on 10 January 2012, 08:59:34
That's what I thought. It was just an option so you could decide whether it was a faulty module or more down to the positioning.
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 10 January 2012, 12:01:04
Is there anyway to test the actuator apart from driving the car

I am dubious of loosening or moving the lpg parts if I have to then drive the
car too test the cruise control!

ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: Bob G on 10 January 2012, 16:36:45
Having said that when I fitted mine all seemed to be correct but it would not work, thanks to info on here suspect was indicated as brake switch, I thought I was lucky as i had the correct 4 pin switch factory fitted, anyway changes it and success.  So it could be one of several items
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: idwal on 14 January 2012, 17:35:02

well - I fitted a new brake switch today and the cruise works fine :y


thanks too all of you who posted replys, I just glad it all works now  ;D

thanks
ken
Title: Re: cruise control fittment on pre facelift
Post by: RobseyMV6 on 14 January 2012, 20:41:01

well - I fitted a new brake switch today and the cruise works fine :y


thanks too all of you who posted replys, I just glad it all works now  ;D

thanks
ken

All sounds good  :y
enjoy the lazy life  ;)