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Title: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: TheBoy on 10 January 2012, 22:33:44
he has just been on local news saying that, due to HS2 decision, Oxford people will benefit because they can get to Manchester quicker.

How?

rather retard.
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: CaptainZok on 10 January 2012, 22:35:31
he has just been on local news saying that, due to HS2 decision, Oxford people will benefit because they can get to Manchester quicker.

How?

rather retard.

More to the point WHY?
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: millwall on 10 January 2012, 22:47:23
yep can confirm he is a class 1 tard  getting all aggetated on the news what a plum
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: albitz on 10 January 2012, 22:49:22
Couldnt have produced all that shite music if he wasnt so yes. :y
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Omega_Dan on 10 January 2012, 22:50:26
Guy didnt make any sense at all. just another day for him i suppose. ;D
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: tunnie on 10 January 2012, 22:54:03
If only it would be ready tomorrow, one of the proposed station stops is just a few mins walk away from my London flat  :)
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 January 2012, 22:54:55
he has just been on local news saying that, due to HS2 decision, Oxford people will benefit because they can get to Manchester quicker.

How?

rather retard.

I guess you'd stand by the track with a parachute and pull the  chord just as the train passes. ;D

Bless 'em, though. Train story.... Who do we know? :-\  What about that has-been pop music producer? He likes train sets, and the sound of his own voice. :y
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: TheBoy on 11 January 2012, 12:48:54
If only it would be ready tomorrow, one of the proposed station stops is just a few mins walk away from my London flat  :)
But where (useful) does it go? Next stop is some scummy part of east brum.

Still doesn't change the fact that Waterman is a useless, pointless, thick, retarded, 1st class idiot
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: tunnie on 11 January 2012, 12:55:36
If only it would be ready tomorrow, one of the proposed station stops is just a few mins walk away from my London flat  :)
But where (useful) does it go? Next stop is some scummy part of east brum.

Still doesn't change the fact that Waterman is a useless, pointless, thick, retarded, 1st class idiot

It also needs a station at Brackley, but then again, bet using my car would be cheaper!
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 January 2012, 13:11:33
There is no point having stations near London on a high speed rail link or it would not be high speed.
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: tunnie on 11 January 2012, 13:21:50
There is no point having stations near London on a high speed rail link or it would not be high speed.

Mine is one of the few, according to HS2 report...

The March 2010 report proposed that all trains would stop at a west London "Crossrail interchange" near Old Oak Common between Paddington and Acton Main Line stations, with connections for Crossrail, Heathrow Express and services on the Great Western Main Line to Heathrow Airport, Reading, South West England and South Wales.

Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: tunnie on 11 January 2012, 13:24:32
Station near me is supposed to be the big Crossrail interchange with a new station building planned, it has the capacity and super long platforms.

Should be good for my flat value! 8 trains an hour and 11 mins to Tottenham Court Road and links to B'ham, add to that the 7 other stations within 20 min walk, can go almost anywhere!
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 January 2012, 13:35:22
Don't get too excited Tunnie!!  :o

Due to endless planning appeals, Judicial reviews, Public inquiries, Royal inquiries, funding reviews etc etc it won't actually be operational untill 2077!! By which time the Germans, Japanese, French, Chinese, Indians, Brazilians etc etc will have a fully fuctioning public teleportation system and will have converted their railways into cycle tracks!!!  ::) ;)

Beam me up Scottie!!!  :D :)
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: tunnie on 11 January 2012, 13:45:15
I know its a long way off, but first Crossrail Phase looks to be going smoothly is due around 2016
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Elite Pete on 11 January 2012, 14:04:14
The bloke's a legend, there would have been no Hitman and Her if it wasn't for Pete ;D
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 January 2012, 14:25:36
He is actulay in real life a realy good guy and pretty knowledgeable.
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: bigboykarl on 11 January 2012, 16:07:33
He is actulay in real life a realy good guy and pretty knowledgeable.
about trains
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 January 2012, 16:35:07
He is actulay in real life a realy good guy and pretty knowledgeable.
about trains

Clearly not to much of an idiot from a business perspective either  :y
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: the alarming man on 11 January 2012, 17:03:34
just music he as dire taste in then..???? :y
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 January 2012, 17:09:20
Aaah.... The Hitman and Her!!!  :y  Happy memories of waking up on the sofa with a stiff neck and wearing my kebab after passing out to that on a Saturday night!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: TheBoy on 11 January 2012, 19:22:03
He is actulay in real life a realy good guy and pretty knowledgeable.
Never met him. Never want to to be honest. So can't say if this is a temporary bout of retardness, or if he is permenantly thick.
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Turk on 11 January 2012, 23:36:10
he has just been on local news saying that, due to HS2 decision, Oxford people will benefit because they can get to Manchester quicker.

How?

rather retard.

The government announced on Tuesday that the HS2 line from London to Birmingham and eventually on to Manchester and Leeds will go ahead.  ::)
http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/local-harrow-news/2012/01/11/brent-leaders-welcome-hs2-approval-116451-30104591/
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 12 January 2012, 07:26:36
The bloke's a legend, there would have been no Hitman and Her if it wasn't for Pete ;D

I always fancied 'her'. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 12 January 2012, 07:29:40
he has just been on local news saying that, due to HS2 decision, Oxford people will benefit because they can get to Manchester quicker.

How?

rather retard.

More to the point WHY?

That's an important point J - my wife asked me the same question last night and I'm afraid to say that I couldn't think of one justifiable reason for the sane to do so. :( :(
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: tunnie on 12 January 2012, 16:19:32
he has just been on local news saying that, due to HS2 decision, Oxford people will benefit because they can get to Manchester quicker.

How?

rather retard.

The government announced on Tuesday that the HS2 line from London to Birmingham and eventually on to Manchester and Leeds will go ahead.  ::)
http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/local-harrow-news/2012/01/11/brent-leaders-welcome-hs2-approval-116451-30104591/

Well yes, thats well known. But the reason for asking is how this will benefit Oxford? HS2 goes no way near Oxford!!

Look at this image:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/High_Speed_2_route.png/800px-High_Speed_2_route.png)

How the fek does that benefit Oxford?
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 12 January 2012, 16:28:28
The bloke's a legend, there would have been no Hitman and Her if it wasn't for Pete ;D

I always fancied 'her'. :-* :-*

Micheala can be found on countryfile on Sunday's - still looking pretty good as well

(http://veggieadvisor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Michaela-Strachan.jpg)
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 January 2012, 16:39:33
It wont benefit Oxford and shouldn't either.

For me, a high speed link is only of use if it serves cities that are a reasonable distance apart hence I guess London, Birmingham, Manchester, Newcastle and maybe a tunnel to the independent state of Scotland  ;D makes some sense.

Clearly we do need to do some pretty major work on the rail network and the idiots who say upgrade what we have got are missing the MASSIVE challenge that means.
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: tunnie on 12 January 2012, 16:44:37
It wont benefit Oxford and shouldn't either.

For me, a high speed link is only of use if it serves cities that are a reasonable distance apart hence I guess London, Birmingham, Manchester, Newcastle and maybe a tunnel to the independent state of Scotland  ;D makes some sense.

Clearly we do need to do some pretty major work on the rail network and the idiots who say upgrade what we have got are missing the MASSIVE challenge that means.

The failed West Coast upgrade shows just that!

One interesting side cut from this, as it got me interested is the Crossrail interchange for HS2 & Heathrow link, puts it at Old Oak Common, which is the old Eurostar service point + First Great Westerns traction maintenance yard.

If this gets build, Great Western line will be a bit stuffed, as they will have no maintenance facilities east of Reading.
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 January 2012, 16:46:00
Actualy, just checked on the Oxford to Manchester times and it would be quicker.

It takes 3 hours at the moment with one change.

With HS2 (as, when and if it goes to Manchester!) it would be a 1 hour journey to Birmingham International plus the 45 minutes to Manchester and say a 15 minute change time so 1 hour less.
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 January 2012, 16:49:36
It wont benefit Oxford and shouldn't either.

For me, a high speed link is only of use if it serves cities that are a reasonable distance apart hence I guess London, Birmingham, Manchester, Newcastle and maybe a tunnel to the independent state of Scotland  ;D makes some sense.

Clearly we do need to do some pretty major work on the rail network and the idiots who say upgrade what we have got are missing the MASSIVE challenge that means.

The failed West Coast upgrade shows just that!

One interesting side cut from this, as it got me interested is the Crossrail interchange for HS2 & Heathrow link, puts it at Old Oak Common, which is the old Eurostar service point + First Great Westerns traction maintenance yard.

If this gets build, Great Western line will be a bit stuffed, as they will have no maintenance facilities east of Reading.

The maintenance facilites are no issue, they have plenty of time to address that and Old Oak Common is not in a great position anyway as its almost unaccessable during the day due to the lack of paths on the mega busy network around it

The West coast work was very succesful and the upgrade we need would make that job look like a minor makeover as the fundamental challenge in the UK is the huge loading gauge limitiation. To fix that requires new bridges, tunnels everything....hence cheaper to build a new line and much less disruptive.
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 12 January 2012, 16:51:39
The bloke's a legend, there would have been no Hitman and Her if it wasn't for Pete ;D

I always fancied 'her'. :-* :-*

Micheala can be found on countryfile on Sunday's - still looking pretty good as well

http://veggieadvisor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Michaela-Strachan.jpg


That's the girl Phil :-* :-* You've made a decrepit, crusty old gett very happy. 8) :y
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: tunnie on 12 January 2012, 16:57:27
It wont benefit Oxford and shouldn't either.

For me, a high speed link is only of use if it serves cities that are a reasonable distance apart hence I guess London, Birmingham, Manchester, Newcastle and maybe a tunnel to the independent state of Scotland  ;D makes some sense.

Clearly we do need to do some pretty major work on the rail network and the idiots who say upgrade what we have got are missing the MASSIVE challenge that means.

The failed West Coast upgrade shows just that!

One interesting side cut from this, as it got me interested is the Crossrail interchange for HS2 & Heathrow link, puts it at Old Oak Common, which is the old Eurostar service point + First Great Westerns traction maintenance yard.

If this gets build, Great Western line will be a bit stuffed, as they will have no maintenance facilities east of Reading.

The maintenance facilites are no issue, they have plenty of time to address that and Old Oak Common is not in a great position anyway as its almost unaccessable during the day due to the lack of paths on the mega busy network around it

The West coast work was very succesful and the upgrade we need would make that job look like a minor makeover as the fundamental challenge in the UK is the huge loading gauge limitiation. To fix that requires new bridges, tunnels everything....hence cheaper to build a new line and much less disruptive.

The work does not appear to have translated into results though, know quite a few people still stay reliability on that line is very poor! No better than before  :(
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 12 January 2012, 17:01:42
Reliabilty was not part of the requirement, the key thing was supporting a larger number of paths to run more trains and that it has done well.

The major challenge they have is rolling stock and the dreaded bottleneck that is Birminham New Street
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2012, 19:02:24
Actualy, just checked on the Oxford to Manchester times and it would be quicker.

It takes 3 hours at the moment with one change.

With HS2 (as, when and if it goes to Manchester!) it would be a 1 hour journey to Birmingham International plus the 45 minutes to Manchester and say a 15 minute change time so 1 hour less.
HS2 isn't stopping at Birmingham Intl, so train in to Snow Hill, Walk to Curzon.

Remember the official blurb on this, provided by Network Rail and HS2 Ltd (who are closely intertwined) is mostly bias in favour of it. To the point of outright lies/contradictions.

And lets no forget, the extra 14m tunnels have had no impact on cost, surely that shows that the cost is a random(ish) figure.  In fact, the cost hasn't changed in 2 years - even before a route was even agreed ;). 
Title: Re: Pete Waterman, is he really retarded?
Post by: TheBoy on 12 January 2012, 19:04:11
If capacity is the big gain, would the overcrowded paddington-bristol line have been a better target?

Chiltern and MK nlines dont suffer too bad