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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Omega_Dan on 17 January 2012, 20:52:24
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As i do mobile valeting as a bit of a sideline business i have started using waterless technology. was skeptical at first as i couldn't imagine cleaning a car without water. My main concern was scratching the paintwork. However i have tried it on the mig and a few cars which are lightly soiled and its works extremely well. Took about 20 minutes to do the mig. spray on half the car, leave to break down the dust and dirt for a minute, wipe with a damp cloth then dry with a clean cloth. Then do the other half.
Job done and the shine and feel of the paintwork was great. works on plastics and glass too.
Obviously if the car is heavily soiled then water will be required but for everything else it works very well.
As we know it can be a faff getting the jet wash, extension lead, bucket, suds, leather ect and then putting it back again.
Anyone else used it before as i may look at getting a 25ltr Drum of it. :)
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I have used a few different waterless products which i have purchased from car shows etc and found them all to be excellent providing the car is not heavily soiled. As you have said, if heavily soiled wash with water first. They were not cheap ( around £15 ) and the bottles/sprays were only enough for around 4 to 5 applications on my estate with the micro fibre application and cleaning cloths included. Hope that helps.
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Cheers for that. Yeah in small 500ml bottles they are expensive. looking at buying a 25ltr drum which is £47.95.
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Sounds like it might be handy to keep the car clean in the summer, where most of the muck seems to be dust...........I have heard about these before, but would also be concerned about scratching the paint.... :-\ :-\ :-\
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Sounds like it might be handy to keep the car clean in the summer, where most of the muck seems to be dust...........I have heard about these before, but would also be concerned about scratching the paint.... :-\ :-\ :-\
That was my worry vamps. I did it on a black merc and it came well very well.
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I've got to be honest I've actually never heard of 'Waterless' washing.
I assume it's similar to putting 'Vanish' on your carpet; spray on, it breaks down crap, dab/wipe off?
Got to be honest I pay the local Homebase valet service... £9.99 outside, inside, new air freshener. I also keep a ''dash-gleam'' pad in the car to go over the dash and plastic if I see dust. Lasts ages and only £2.99.
Yes I could do it myself but seriously too much hassle. IMO
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I've got to be honest I've actually never heard of 'Waterless' washing.
I assume it's similar to putting 'Vanish' on your carpet; spray on, it breaks down crap, dab/wipe off?
Got to be honest I pay the local Homebase valet service... £9.99 outside, inside, new air freshener. I also keep a ''dash-gleam'' pad in the car to go over the dash and plastic if I see dust. Lasts ages and only £2.99.
Yes I could do it myself but seriously too much hassle. IMO
The product itself is sprayed on but its full of silicone's and is designed to 'wet' the car and break down the dirt allowing it to be wiped away and buffed.
If you think about it the amount of painted surfaces around your house only need a spray of something so i suppose it is taking on a similar theme along with the environmental benefits.
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Very true Dan. Is it cost effective as I note you mention the expense? :)
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well the 500ml bottles that cost a tenner will do about 3-4 cars so the 25ltr drum im looking at buying will do about to 200 cars of an average size. although i have to constantly wash my microfibre clothes. Otherwise that can be an additional expense.
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well the 500ml bottles that cost a tenner will do about 3-4 cars so the 25ltr drum im looking at buying will do about to 200 cars of an average size. although i have to constantly wash my microfibre clothes. Otherwise that can be an additional expense.
Definitely worth trying and cost comparing with the existing products (presumably shampoo) you use! :y :y :y
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Meguiars Quick Detailer is the best stuff I've used, always works well :y
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Why wash cars. Thats why the dear Lord invented Kosovans ::)
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Why wash cars. Thats why the dear Lord invented Kosovans ::)
Yeah, there lethal with a flexiblade ;D
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Why wash cars. Thats why the dear Lord invented Kosovans ::)
Indubitably!
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Nah, I just can't imagine ever using it on any of my vehicles , about as appealing as chewing tinfoil .......
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Nah, I just can't imagine ever using it on any of my vehicles , about as appealing as chewing tinfoil .......
Ive said the said for years until now. ;)
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Nah, I just can't imagine ever using it on any of my vehicles , about as appealing as chewing tinfoil .......
Can't knock it if you ain't tried it :y
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Nah, I just can't imagine ever using it on any of my vehicles , about as appealing as chewing tinfoil .......
Can't knock it if you ain't tried it :y
No , but I aint snorted cocaine either ........ ;D
Somebody mentioned it'd be suitable for dust , well maybe the dust you find under the bed or in a carpeted corner somewhere but dust on a car probably consists of fine stone particulate ,sand or even worse industrial fall out like coal or metal .
Now in order to remove said " dust " without abrading the subsurface this liquid would have to break the electrostatic charge that will be holding it onto the surface ,get under it and maintain a 100% barrier 100% of the time between the jagged ( just think of it for a minute ......) edges of the dust and the paint / lacquer surface, moreover this would have to be sustained whilst under pressure as you inevitably push down on the cloth whilst wiping it all off.
I'm not suggesting that it will score it to hell after two applications but it certainly will cause swirling and fine abrasions on the surface eventually.
It's marketed at people in high rise flats who are legally prevented from washing their car in the street and have to take it to designated washing bays as is the case in Germany and other European countries.
I wish you well lads , but as I said I'd never use it on mine. :)
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Fair comments mate. :y
Does the same not happen when jet-sprayed??? I.e. jagged foreign body bit with strong force to remove?
P.s. mate I'm not arguing with you ;D just genuinely interested :y
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It's alright Webby .
Technically washing a car with a sponge and water will eventually do the same but the difference is that the quantities of water used loosen & carry the particulate away first , as would a hose , so as to greatly minimise the effect , hence the often promoted two bucket method of washing a car .... but let's stay away from that debate ...
This may look like a soft sponge but it's a sharp edged particle of grit / dust ........... :o
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/olympia5776/Odds%20and%20Ends/volcanic-ash-picture-750.jpg)
As I said , each to his own , besides if it couldn't pass the dried coo shite test it would be no use to me anyway .:y
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Bloody hell. That's in depth! :D ;D :y :y :y
As I said before I haven't done it myself as I can't be bothered but with this gorgeous nugget (no pun) of information I'll let you and other intelligent folk battle this one ;D ;D ;D
.... now, where's that popcorn smilie? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
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Olympia, how do you wash your cars then? ;D
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Have to say it must be difficult for those bothered enough to clean their cars in anything like the attention to detail that a detailer would, to accept a waterless method. Two buckets being the basis of keeping grit off your sponge/cloth/microfiber etc, and hence off the paint to avoid scratches, however slight. It goes totally against the grain of everything that was ever taught about cleaning a car.
Yet those that have tried waterless say it works.