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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: amba on 30 January 2012, 19:02:38

Title: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: amba on 30 January 2012, 19:02:38
Driving car this afternoon coolant warning came up on screen,so as it was very cold and temp gauge didn,t rise beyond mid point felt sure it was safe to drive car back home. :)

Few miles from home with heater on "Hi" setting windscreen on drivers side only suddenly descided to start steaming up,so suspected we now had a major water leak. :-X

Car on driveway,checked coolant bottle which was empty,so added around 2 ltrs of coolant mixture and turned heater up on screen full blower setting .Checked bottle again and again empty,but noticed drips coming from drivers side sill half way along length of door.Lifted up floor mat to discover that drivers side footwell had a fairly large puddle :'( :'( :'(...looks like heater matrix has gone.

Now question is would this just be age and wear related :-[ as coolant is always at correct strength and whilst I have been smelling a slight waft of antifreeze for several weeks now on start up have never needed to add more than a few drips to level.

 
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 January 2012, 20:02:32
Omega heater matrix is not a high quality item and was very similiar the one I used in one of my ex cars..
 
trouble is its a dash out job or you may prefer the dark side and cut ;D
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: fiend61 on 30 January 2012, 20:02:46
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Now question is would this just be age and wear related
im afraid so  :( they tend to get bunged up with crud and seeing as it only has narrow waterways they will blow under pressure, sorry to add to your misery but they are a pain to takeout and refit unless you cut and repair the trim as per guide on here
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: dbug on 30 January 2012, 20:06:59
Cut trim carefully as shown in gudes and repair.  Done it on mine - about 1 hour all in  :y
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: Abiton on 30 January 2012, 20:09:34
FWIW ours let go a while before the HG leak into/out of pot 4 (2.0) got really bad.  Overpressurisation no doubt contributed to its demise, but it was high-mileage anyway (155-160K? at the time).  Your profile doesn't say, but I have a feeling yours is a V6? So HG less likely, esp if 2.6/3.2.

See if there's residual pressure in the coolant system after the engine is stone cold , that was one of the clues that ours was leaking gases across a fire-ring.

Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: amba on 30 January 2012, 20:09:55
Really don,t fancy even thinking about removing the entire dash >:( so I will venture around the dark side and statrt peeling away the vinyl and arm myself with a hack saw blade.

Job in the morning then will be to remove both quick fit bulk head pipes and join them with a section of 15mm copper pipe and some cable ties so car can then be used although will need to drive around with coat on  ;D ;D ;D until can source a matrix prompto along with seal rings
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: amba on 30 January 2012, 20:13:22
Mines a 2.5 V6 with a lowly 199k so really want to break the 200k.

When I removed coolant bottle cap there was no pressure inside..but equally no water either ;D.

Just started trawlling web for quickest and best price for new matrix as wil get seal washer from VX as can only be pennies ;D
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: PhilRich on 30 January 2012, 20:51:56
Good luck with it! :y
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: amba on 30 January 2012, 21:00:07
Thanks for words of support :y :y :y

Just need to find the best place and quickest to get replacement now  ;D :D
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: fiend61 on 30 January 2012, 22:00:34
what car is it ??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-B-HEATER-MATRIX-90379972-/310350402400?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4842535360
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: albitz on 30 January 2012, 22:12:03
I would ask Twiglet if he still has the matrix from his 35,000 mile breaker.Unlikely to get a better one unless you buy new,and I would imagine genuine new will be a lot of money. :-\
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: amba on 30 January 2012, 22:18:49
Search did bring up new from BuyParts at less than £20 but then you are dealing with no doudt poor quality  :'(

Thanks for info Albs ..will drop Twiglet a pm then :y
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: albitz on 30 January 2012, 22:24:41
Thats a very good price. I have no experience or knowledge of pattern matrixes, maybe others have ?  :-\
Title: Re: Is this just "fair wear,n,tear"
Post by: amba on 31 January 2012, 08:28:53
Can anybody confirm if the heater matrix is the same across the entire year range...would that from a Facelift be suitable and fit into a M/Facelift ?

A part # for the small "o" rings seals would also be very helpfull if anybody can confirm the correct one as searches seem to bring up several