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Title: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Amigo on 16 February 2012, 22:37:17
& bought this you deserve to be taken out the back & shot...probably tortured & beaten first to prolong the agony as you'd bloody well deserve it. This is'nt & never will be a classic & is'nt worth half the asking price with a years ticket. Saggy hydrolastics, rotten to the core (they were from new). I know £495 does'nt buy much nowadays but this is'nt worth it's listing fee. FANTASY ISLAND!!!!!! ::)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1988-AUSTIN-METRO-CITY-X-GREY-NO-MOT-TAX-/120860783514?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c23dd339a
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Vamps on 16 February 2012, 22:42:30
Not got a lot going for it, as Guy says, not worth half, but there are some nice ones out there that would make a nice cheap car for a youngster... :)

This one however...... :o :o :o

1988 E REG AUSTIN METRO 998CC
 
IDEAL PROJECT

1 OWNER FROM NEW
 
24K MILES
 
NO MOT
 
NO TAX
 
NO LOGBOOK
 
BEEN STOOD FOR LAST 12 YEARS
 
ENGINE DOES RUN HOWEVER WOULD OBVIOUSLY BENEFIT FROM A GOOD SERVICE
 
CLUTCH SEIZED AND UNABLE TO SELECT ANY GEARS


Run, do not walk away..... :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Lazydocker on 16 February 2012, 22:45:29
If I was feeling generous I'd give him the cash in my pocket ::) ::) ::) About £3.12 :D :D

Having owned 2 Metro's and driven/part owned many, many more (probably 30+ ::)) the only one I would ever consider buying again would be a MG Turbo ;)
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Amigo on 16 February 2012, 22:58:16
If the clutch won't free off with a good tow up the road & trying to engage a gear then it's the whole unit swap. These are a nightmare to split as i remember from my mini days.

  If i only had a monkey in my bin i'd be better off with this:-
   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1991-VAUXHALL-CAVALIER-L-RED-/260955654286?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc22b488e
   Much better spent i reckon!! 8)
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Vamps on 16 February 2012, 23:12:47
If the clutch won't free off with a good tow up the road & trying to engage a gear then it's the whole unit swap. These are a nightmare to split as i remember from my mini days.

  If i only had a monkey in my bin i'd be better off with this:-
   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1991-VAUXHALL-CAVALIER-L-RED-/260955654286?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3cc22b488e
   Much better spent i reckon!! 8)

I had a new 1.6 estate, in 1984 - company car, remembered fondly..... :y :y
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: aaronjb on 16 February 2012, 23:16:39
I only got £50 more than the Metro for my 300ZX with private plate, 8 months MOT, and a grands worth (at least) of upgraded parts on it.  :-\
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: jonnycool on 17 February 2012, 00:03:45
I never thought I'd see another one of these in one piece again  :P
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: r1 on 17 February 2012, 08:18:36
come on then lets all join the que to knock the  british cars.
yes it might be a little on the high side with the price and from the look of it he hasnt mentioned that the suspension has sunk.if it has been stood for so long no wonder the clutch has stuck but by jacking it up and useing the brakes iam sure it would come off.
its low miles and rare[when did you last see one]
i think it would make a nice  project as they are simple cars.
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Andy B on 17 February 2012, 08:33:06
come on then lets all join the que to knock the  british cars.
 .....

British cars of that era had a right to be knocked .......... they were mostly crap!  ::) ::)
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: aaronjb on 17 February 2012, 08:46:19
come on then lets all join the que to knock the  british cars.
 .....

British cars of that era had a right to be knocked .......... they were mostly crap!  ::) ::)

I suppose some people would argue that's 'our' (England's) problem - unlike some other countries who will "BUY <country>!" regardless of whether it's the best quality, best price or best executed idea purely because they want to support national business, we buy based on price (mostly) or quality & execution (sometimes) .. so we buy everyone else's crap but not our own.

I don't subscribe to that, personally, but..
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: OOMV6 on 17 February 2012, 08:58:44
come on then lets all join the que to knock the  british cars.
 .....

British cars of that era had a right to be knocked .......... they were mostly crap!  ::) ::)

I suppose some people would argue that's 'our' (England's) problem - unlike some other countries who will "BUY <country>!" regardless of whether it's the best quality, best price or best executed idea purely because they want to support national business, we buy based on price (mostly) or quality & execution (sometimes) .. so we buy everyone else's crap but not our own.

I don't subscribe to that, personally, but..


Don't agree entirely with that.
BL in case in point. In fact the BL story is often used in Management training courses to illustrate how NOT to do things. A combination of poor management and very poor quality control meant some British cars that could have been great ... weren't. Rover SD1 for example.
Whilst British cars fell apart, gave up before 100,000 miles, cars from many other countries were still plodding on. At the end of the day, why would anybody "BUY <country>!" when you can do better elsewhere.
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: aaronjb on 17 February 2012, 09:00:59
come on then lets all join the que to knock the  british cars.
 .....

British cars of that era had a right to be knocked .......... they were mostly crap!  ::) ::)

I suppose some people would argue that's 'our' (England's) problem - unlike some other countries who will "BUY <country>!" regardless of whether it's the best quality, best price or best executed idea purely because they want to support national business, we buy based on price (mostly) or quality & execution (sometimes) .. so we buy everyone else's crap but not our own.

I don't subscribe to that, personally, but..


Don't agree entirely with that.
BL in case in point. In fact the BL story is often used in Management training courses to illustrate how NOT to do things. A combination of poor management and very poor quality control meant some British cars that could have been great ... weren't. Rover SD1 for example.
Whilst British cars fell apart, gave up before 100,000 miles, cars from many other countries were still plodding on. At the end of the day, why would anybody "BUY <country>!" when you can do better elsewhere.

As I said - some people, in other countries, would do just that out of a sense of national pride and a desire to support their own countries businesses above all else..
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Andy B on 17 February 2012, 09:05:52
.....

Don't agree entirely with that.
BL in case in point. In fact the BL story is often used in Management training courses to illustrate how NOT to do things. A combination of poor management and very poor quality control meant some British cars that could have been great ... weren't. Rover SD1 for example.
Whilst British cars fell apart, gave up before 100,000 miles, cars from many other countries were still plodding on. At the end of the day, why would anybody "BUY <country>!" when you can do better elsewhere.

Clarkson did a programme once about what went wrong at BL, and the conclusion was pretty much what you say, poor management. BL didn't help themselves though when their own cars were competing against each other in the showroom.
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: aaronjb on 17 February 2012, 09:11:16
Incidentally I'm not doubting that a large proportion of all BL cars were pure, unadulterated shite with free rust installed at the factory - I've owned enough, after all ;D (and my parents have owned even more!)
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: TheBoy on 17 February 2012, 09:48:23
Mrs TB's first car was a B reg Metro VP.  It was surprisingly comfy for such a shitbox, although steering wheel needed an adjustment, as it was too high. I think the VP had the MG engine, so tuned a bit better than normal.  Went OK, though only good for about 95, but cornered on rails (for what it was)*, brilliant fun around town.

* Bearing in mind my car at the time was a MkII Astra GTE, which was as frightened of corners as the poor sod hanging on to the steering wheel.

There was a lot to really hate about it, but I used to enjoy driving it locally. On the open road, its lack of power was annoying.  Obviously, it slowly blew away, and in the end, we sold it to a mechanic mate who desperately needed the interior (which was in really good condition).
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: TheBoy on 17 February 2012, 09:56:12
come on then lets all join the que to knock the  british cars.
 .....

British cars of that era had a right to be knocked .......... they were mostly crap!  ::) ::)

I suppose some people would argue that's 'our' (England's) problem - unlike some other countries who will "BUY <country>!" regardless of whether it's the best quality, best price or best executed idea purely because they want to support national business, we buy based on price (mostly) or quality & execution (sometimes) .. so we buy everyone else's crap but not our own.

I don't subscribe to that, personally, but..
We know have a mentality of retards in this country, where BUY BMW and not consider anything else.

Apologies to all those who have a BMW...  ...but serves you right :P ;D
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: aaronjb on 17 February 2012, 09:57:34
Obviously, it slowly blew away, and in the end,

;D ;D ;D Took me a second..

I had a much later 'Rover' Metro - 1.4 diesel, which was woefully underpowered and thanks to the giant boat anchor up front had a tendency to go straight on at corners. Although it caught me out one day by not doing so, and I found myself driving up the grass verge on the inside of a bend (and being a new driver promptly shat myself, stamped on the brakes, shot across the road and ended up in the opposite ditch .. accident investigation concluded that the front subframe had rusted in half some time ago resulting in a major loss of wheel control - the car was only three years old!)

Had a Rover 218D, the boxy one with the NA Pug engine too - but that doesn't count as it was basically a Honda with a crap engine slung in. Did the same thing in corners, though - straight on.

And of course the Austin Allegro .. though despite that being a woeful car I still love it to this day. First car n'all that.

(My dad had a string of Austin Minis, a Traveller with a porous block, a B reg Metro in sh*t 'gold', a D reg (I think) Maestro and later a Rover Metro again..)


We know have a mentality of retards in this country, where BUY BMW and not consider anything else.

Apologies to all those who have a BMW...  ...but serves you right :P ;D

According to WhatCar it's now cheaper to own & drive a BMW or VWAG car than a Honda..
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: feeutfo on 17 February 2012, 10:01:56
come on then lets all join the que to knock the  british cars.
 .....

British cars of that era had a right to be knocked .......... they were mostly crap!  ::) ::)

I suppose some people would argue that's 'our' (England's) problem - unlike some other countries who will "BUY <FRENCH>!" regardless of whether it's the best quality, best price or best executed idea purely because they want to support national business, we buy based on price (mostly) or quality & execution (sometimes) .. so we buy everyone else's crap but not our own.

I don't subscribe to that, personally, but..
They are the same with hire cars. French only. Even if it's a Spanish hire company.  ;D
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: TheBoy on 17 February 2012, 10:15:34
I had a much later 'Rover' Metro - 1.4 diesel, which was woefully underpowered and thanks to the giant boat anchor up front had a tendency to go straight on at corners. Although it caught me out one day by not doing so, and I found myself driving up the grass verge on the inside of a bend (and being a new driver promptly shat myself, stamped on the brakes, shot across the road and ended up in the opposite ditch .. accident investigation concluded that the front subframe had rusted in half some time ago resulting in a major loss of wheel control - the car was only three years old!)
Mrs TB's had had a new subframe, due to her brother wrapping it around a lamppost a few days before I met her (and she'd had her Honda scooter nicked the same week - no wonder she was a miserable cow :P)

Had a Rover 218D, the boxy one with the NA Pug engine too - but that doesn't count as it was basically a Honda with a crap engine slung in. Did the same thing in corners, though - straight on.
Had a 216GSi, great car, not exactly prone to masses of understeer (it handled like a FWD car), but what a gorgeous engine! Every bit as quick as the Astra GTE it replaced, and was able to handle bends reasonably well. It had a 3rd gear that was ideal from about 30mph to about 110mph (no rev limiter).  Its biggest downside was no PAS, and 25mpg ::). I bought it at 40k, had it for ages (although didn't use it much once Mrs TB started getting company lease scheme cars), gave to my brother at 80k, he did nothing other than put some tyres on it for an MOT, and scrapped it just shy of 140k, after using it as a pick-up truck when rebuilding his house. I borrowed it just before it was scrapped, and it still went like the clappers - although 3rd gear had developed a whine ::)

When I say nothing, I really do mean nothing. Not even an oil change.


And of course the Austin Allegro .. though despite that being a woeful car I still love it to this day. First car n'all that.
As you say, woeful!
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: aaronjb on 17 February 2012, 10:26:08
We couldn't figure out the subframe on the Metro - it was one (elderly lady!) owner before it came to the company, and there was no recorded accident history or anything like that. It also had a FSH, so how the garage hadn't noticed a gaping hole in the subframe, I don't know...


I think the only reason the 218D I had went straight on everywhere was the (again) boat anchor up front.. it was ridiculously heavy to steer when parking, too, as it also had no PAS - though it wasn't a problem once you were moving. But then no car I'd had up to that point had PAS ..

.. after I'd been driving a P-reg Astra 2.0 Sport for a while (company car, as were the two Rovers) and then borrowed someone's 218D though, by gods! I felt like popeye before he'd had his spinach ;D Understeer was no longer a problem, but not being able to get enough lock on quickly for tight corners was ;D
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: buttsy19 on 17 February 2012, 14:35:55
& bought this you deserve to be taken out the back & shot...probably tortured & beaten first to prolong the agony as you'd bloody well deserve it. This is'nt & never will be a classic & is'nt worth half the asking price with a years ticket. Saggy hydrolastics, rotten to the core (they were from new). I know £495 does'nt buy much nowadays but this is'nt worth it's listing fee. FANTASY ISLAND!!!!!! ::)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1988-AUSTIN-METRO-CITY-X-GREY-NO-MOT-TAX-/120860783514?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c23dd339a

I bought my miggy for less than this.
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: adey2 on 17 February 2012, 14:50:03
if i had that money id buy this miggy, its got everything right down to cid screen   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/52-REG-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-3-2-ELITE-AUTOMATIC-4DR-SALOON-SAT-NAV-SPARE-REPAIR-/120862108857?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c23f16cb9
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: tigers_gonads on 17 February 2012, 20:30:01
Kin ell, thats 10 mins down the road from me  :y

Time to creep to swmbo  ;)
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Mart280 on 17 February 2012, 21:56:49
Thats a nice Mig for 500 quid, I bought mine from Ebay and couldnt have been happier, had it just over a year now and got another years ticket at the end of December, I will definitly buy another one from ebay as long as it's not too far from me, I had about a 100 mile round trip when I picked mine up.
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: albitz on 17 February 2012, 22:10:05
It sold almost as soon as it was listed. ;)
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: hercules on 17 February 2012, 22:28:32
its a god damn shame.i followed patriotism and bought a disco and spent most of my time fixing the bugger,then i bought an isuzu and its been faultless.i can fully see the dont knock british cars theyre ours and personally i love them,i love marinas,minis,maxis,dolomites,SD1,and so on but when foreign cars were more economical and reliable that speaks alot.if i had my way england would be full of brits and we would all own jags and astons and the only other car you would see would be a yugo zastava and that would be a foreigner over he on holiday
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Vamps on 17 February 2012, 22:33:00
I have had loads of British cars over the years, Loved Fords and Minis but the best British car I have ever owned and run was a 1989 Rover 827, it was a flying machine and I never had any handling problems :y :y :y Bought a later 820 and that was garbage, engine and gearbox were terrible, soon got rid of that one ::) ::)................others may have different opinions.... :P :P :P
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: OOMV6 on 17 February 2012, 22:38:33
I have had loads of British cars over the years, Loved Fords and Minis but the best British car I have ever owned and run was a 1989 Rover 827, it was a flying machine and I never had any handling problems :y :y :y Bought a later 820 and that was garbage, engine and gearbox were terrible, soon got rid of that one ::) ::)................others may have different opinions.... :P :P :P

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Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: Vamps on 17 February 2012, 23:31:39
I have had loads of British cars over the years, Loved Fords and Minis but the best British car I have ever owned and run was a 1989 Rover 827, it was a flying machine and I never had any handling problems :y :y :y Bought a later 820 and that was garbage, engine and gearbox were terrible, soon got rid of that one ::) ::)................others may have different opinions.... :P :P :P

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When I was younger they were built in Britain...... :P :P
Title: Re: If you had £495 for a cheap car......
Post by: albitz on 17 February 2012, 23:53:28
Dagenham Dustbins. :y ;D