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Heel&Toe technique VS Fuel Economy
« on: 01 May 2012, 17:22:29 »

Hi there  ::)


Does this technique increasing fuel usage ?


Yes, it is great for the transmission and motor health because it matches the revs, but how about fuel economy? In theory when you throttle you consume a fuel....


So, I would like to hear your opinion
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Re: Heel&Toe technique VS Fuel Economy
« Reply #1 on: 01 May 2012, 17:29:47 »

To answer the question I would say it is pretty clear you'd use more fuel.
Would also say that in everyday driving conditions it is completely unnecessary to down shift as high revs, negating the need foer this technique. Cars have brakes, and I certainly would prefer to wear out brakes before any engine / clutch / driveshaft / propshaft component.
If you're racing, it's a different story, of course.
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Re: Heel&Toe technique VS Fuel Economy
« Reply #2 on: 01 May 2012, 22:03:17 »

To answer the question I would say it is pretty clear you'd use more fuel.
Would also say that in everyday driving conditions it is completely unnecessary to down shift as high revs, negating the need foer this technique. Cars have brakes, and I certainly would prefer to wear out brakes before any engine / clutch / driveshaft / propshaft component.
If you're racing, it's a different story, of course.

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Re: Heel&Toe technique VS Fuel Economy
« Reply #3 on: 01 May 2012, 22:45:18 »

I've only ever used 'heel and toe' on the track......   ::)
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Re: Heel&Toe technique VS Fuel Economy
« Reply #4 on: 02 May 2012, 08:54:39 »

Ducati tried to devise an automtic gear change system for thier race bikes. It worked well, it also saved fuel by dropping the availability for the rider to blip the throttle on down changes. Which allowed a slightly lighter fuel load v the fixed race distance...but the riders threw a fit as they couldn't get the back end to behave into corners. Too much reverse engine load broke traction free at the rear.

But on the road as said, there's no need unless your haring about, in which case your going to save more fuel by not haring about! If that's your concern. Odd question :-\
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Re: Heel&Toe technique VS Fuel Economy
« Reply #5 on: 02 May 2012, 09:47:48 »

Heel and toeing, sustained rev changes, or blipping the throttle, all increase the fuel used - but the amount is neglibible compared to the benefit of increased mechanical sympathy, and passenger comfort. IMHO.
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Re: Heel&Toe technique VS Fuel Economy
« Reply #6 on: 02 May 2012, 17:28:28 »

it certainly will use more fuel, but only a very small amount. Probably worth it considering the extra smoothness.

I always find the Omega throttle pedal a little short for "heel-and-toeing", and don't feel safe just using the side of my shoe either.

But at least you can adjust the brake pedal height
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Re: Heel&Toe technique VS Fuel Economy
« Reply #7 on: 02 May 2012, 20:21:00 »

it certainly will use more fuel, but only a very small amount. Probably worth it considering the extra smoothness.

I always find the Omega throttle pedal a little short for "heel-and-toeing", and don't feel safe just using the side of my shoe either.

But at least you can adjust the brake pedal height

And, unlike a lot of modern cars, it doesn't cut the power when you touch the brakes :y
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