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[OOMV6]

I think in the case of arsebook, it actually probably amounts to theft, but allowed within the smallprint of the T&Cs.  What they are claiming their service is does not need to record who I called, when, and from where. It does not need my entire contacts list to sell on.

In fact, I ask anyone who has my details, and is on arsebook, to delete my contacts from their systems immediately. Nor should they call me from their mobile with an arsebook app on. I do not give my consent for my details to be forwarded by anyone

In todays world, I think you may be fighting a losing battle there.

[Rods2]

and the place that does all the tesco club cards has very high security as i used to deliver there

Until they decide to outsource it to India where their employees will steal the data and sell in on.

This has happened to BT in the past although they have always denied it. When I had a phone call from a conman who had all my details including last payment date and that it was through a post office. When he asked for my bank details to set a direct debit, I had a big argument where I had politely told him to ff fade away as he had called me and could be anybody. The only time I know it is BT is if I phone them. I emailed BT to complain and they confirmed that nobody had called at the time. I knew something was wrong with the call, later I realized that was no background call centre chatter. BT said they must of got the data from a phone book which was strange as I am ex-directory and I was not aware that the phone book contained ex-directory numbers along with your preferred method and date and place of last payment. I never did get a satisfactory answer. 

[Rods2]

Some good points come through in this thread. Each to their own opinion and everybody is making valid points based on their beliefs, needs, situation.
But....it seems that it has been forgotten that Big brother is watching you anyway, whether you have FB, email, bla bla or not.

Most people have a mobile phone of some sort, credit cards maybe, car registration, rent or mortgage agreements, employer, ++++ not to mention millions of cameras watching you. So no point in being paranoid - you're being watched anyway. And if you ain't done anything wrong, what the hell is the problem

Of course you have nothing to worry about with companies having all of this information and data about you as it has never been known for servers to be hacked into and personal data stolen, or employees farming the data and selling it on, or the companies themselves making extra money by selling it to 'Scum Claims Solicitors Are Us'. For Sony, LinkedIn the hacking didn't really happen did it, it was all a publicity stunt. 

[Martian]

So, please explain, why does any app need to know if my phone is in use,

Apps such as CPU Spy, Better Battery Stats, etc need to know what the handset is doing at any given time so it can report the correct info back to the end user.
Other (more common) apps such as media players will also need to know the phone state so they know when to mute themselves when a call comes in.

Apps that look at the IMEI & the IMSI invariably do that to help stop piracy, but if you are that paranoid there are plenty of security apps out there that give you the choice to allow or disallow a particular permission when it is requested by an app.

[OOMV6]

Some good points come through in this thread. Each to their own opinion and everybody is making valid points based on their beliefs, needs, situation.
But....it seems that it has been forgotten that Big brother is watching you anyway, whether you have FB, email, bla bla or not.

Most people have a mobile phone of some sort, credit cards maybe, car registration, rent or mortgage agreements, employer, ++++ not to mention millions of cameras watching you. So no point in being paranoid - you're being watched anyway. And if you ain't done anything wrong, what the hell is the problem

Of course you have nothing to worry about with companies having all of this information and data about you as it has never been known for servers to be hacked into and personal data stolen, or employees farming the data and selling it on, or the companies themselves making extra money by selling it to 'Scum Claims Solicitors Are Us'. For Sony, LinkedIn the hacking didn't really happen did it, it was all a publicity stunt. 

  Hmm.
The point is, your personal data is floating around anywhere and everywhere already. As individuals we can take appropriate precautions to try to limit it, to a greater or lesser extent depending on our personal viewpoint, but it has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen.
Of course I know my email address is sold on. So what am I gonna do about it? Oh, yes, stop using email. Whilst there, I will get rid of my mobile phone, credit cards and basically anything else that carries personal data 

[Kevin Wood]

So nobody's spotted the obvious answer.. Don't buy a phone that runs crApps in the first place. Perhaps one that makes calls and sends text messages? Works for me.

Your common sense is reveilling your extended age, Mr Wood. A phone is for talking to people on. Maybe texting. And in my case, email.

I'm an email junkie. I get nervous when I can't get access to my mail server 


I need to sit in a circle, and say "My name is TheBoy, and I'm addicted to email" 

Mine's supposed to do e-mail, but it fails at the first hurdle of logging in to the server, and I can't be @rsed to wireshark it to figure out why.