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Differences in auto gearbox
« on: 07 October 2012, 23:01:05 »

I have been unable to find any particular reference to this in previous posts -  is there any actual difference between auto gearboxes, say with 2.6 and 3.2?
Parts listings show a variety of auto gear boxes part numbers for the Omegas, identified only by ident numbers, not engine size.
I wondered if anyone had information on this - are the 2.6 and 3.2 the same gearbox; any difference being in the torque converter with the final ratios transmitted to the rear wheels being determined by the diff, or are the gearbox ratios different?
In short, can a gearbox from a 2.6 be fitted in a 3.2, or am I looking at further problems? Reprogramming the gearbox ECU for example? 
Or would it be wise to find and fit a gearbox with the same ident number?
Anyone with experience of this or the technical info that could shed any light would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #1 on: 07 October 2012, 23:05:28 »

3.2 (and earlier 3.0) use AR35 unit.All others use the less strong AR25 unit.If your changing the box on a car fitted with an AR25 you can use an AR35 (its a straight swop on petrol models),in fact its advisable to do so while the opportunity is there to do so.
No point fitting an AR25 from a 2.6 into a 3.2.It would fit ok but wouldnt last very long.The torque of the 3.2 would chew it up. :y
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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #2 on: 07 October 2012, 23:07:57 »

And the manuals up to 2.6 ltr take the R25, 3.0 & 3.2`s take the R28
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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #3 on: 07 October 2012, 23:54:01 »

Well that's cleared that point up as to whether a 2.6 and 3.2 are interchangeable, many thanks - just one thing,  Albitz refers to an AR35 and RobG it an R28 - I'm slightly confused.... 
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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #4 on: 07 October 2012, 23:55:21 »

Well that's cleared that point up as to whether a 2.6 and 3.2 are interchangeable, many thanks - just one thing,  Albitz refers to an AR35 and RobG it an R28 - I'm slightly confused....
AR = Auto
R = Manual
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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #5 on: 08 October 2012, 00:39:16 »

Got that now - if I had read the replies properly, it would help!!
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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #6 on: 08 October 2012, 16:02:53 »

And the manuals up to 2.6 ltr take the R25, 3.0 & 3.2`s take the R28

Only 3.0 uses R28, 3.2 uses R30  ;)

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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #7 on: 13 October 2012, 00:02:17 »

So it would be OK to fit a autobox from a 1999 facelift 3.0 into a 2003 3.2? I presume that from the info given that they both have AR35 boxes?
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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #8 on: 13 October 2012, 08:51:10 »

So it would be OK to fit a autobox from a 1999 facelift 3.0 into a 2003 3.2? I presume that from the info given that they both have AR35 boxes?
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Yes. Both have the AR35 (35 = rated to 350Nm).
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Re: Differences in auto gearbox
« Reply #9 on: 14 October 2012, 01:14:24 »

Many thanks for all the info....I just need to find a good auto gearbox now!
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