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[TheBoy]

Of course, if its just to make or receive calls, those cheapo, dumb Nokias for £20 are unbeatable

[TheBoy]

If only Nokia had realised what they had by inventing the Smartphone, they might have got off their arse and designed their own operating system.... instead of paying Symbian no money at all for there's, and didn't it show.

Nokia should be the world leader in the mobile phone market now as well as back then.  Idiots!

Symbian was theirs in the early days

And to be honest, they didn't really invent the smartphone, as the Nokia Communicator was far from smart, being a standard HP PDA using the modem in the Nokia phone. Although the definition of Smartphone is blurred - for most its a mobile phone running an OS with an openly published interfaces for 3rd parties to develop software to run on it.

Windows, Gooseberry, and possibly to a lesser extent Ericsson were the first with proper smartphones, although Gooseberry shied away from touchscreens for years, making it, basically, crap as a smartphone.

Windows ruled the roost of early Smartphones, until crApple came along and Andriod properly took off (Apple were the ones that inspired the majority to have more than just a phone).

[chrisgixer]

If only Nokia had realised what they had by inventing the Smartphone, they might have got off their arse and designed their own operating system.... instead of paying Symbian no money at all for there's, and didn't it show.

Nokia should be the world leader in the mobile phone market now as well as back then.  Idiots!

Symbian was theirs in the early days

And to be honest, they didn't really invent the smartphone, as the Nokia Communicator was far from smart, being a standard HP PDA using the modem in the Nokia phone. Although the definition of Smartphone is blurred - for most its a mobile phone running an OS with an openly published interfaces for 3rd parties to develop software to run on it.

Windows, Gooseberry, and possibly to a lesser extent Ericsson were the first with proper smartphones, although Gooseberry shied away from touchscreens for years, making it, basically, crap as a smartphone.

Windows ruled the roost of early Smartphones, until crApple came along and Andriod properly took off (Apple were the ones that inspired the majority to have more than just a phone).

Ah I see TB has his pedantic hat on.
The communicator absolutely was not their first smartphone.

Definition of which being, the ability to open numerous pages, or applications, or whatever, at the same time and be able to move between them at will. Aka nokias series 60 phones.

Nokias series 40 phones where not capable of this, and had the traditional one page at a time menu system most people know of a mobile phone. Utterly reliable, massive battery life, but totally basic and very annoying in the early days if you wanted to do more than one thing at a time, like check the calendar while righting a text. Hence series 60 was born.

The first ever smartphone was the Nokia 7650. I know, as I had one. Nothing similar was available at the time. And it was HUGE

[chrisgixer]

Also, I don't think a touch screen is the best idea, but to get the functions and capability of a modern day device, it has to be suffered unfortunately.


Ps, the communicator did have some features that later became part of the Smartphones feature. But it wasn't "smart" initially.

[chrisgixer]

I know that a which phone thread,could spark as much controversy,as a a tyre thread,but i dont care

I currently use a nokia lumina 800, and was thinking of upgrading to a I-pone 4S?
 Thoughts and recomendations etc disscuss?

No personal experience of the Nokia. But it has a removable battery. And going by this, no forward facing camera for video calling, or its an over sight.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Apple-iPhone-4,Nokia-Lumia-800/phones/4586,5686

[Sir Tigger KC]

I just refuse to be forced into joining their "club"   

I think you're buggered either way Rog! 

With Android you have to sign up to Google Play who probably now know more about me in the 2 months since I succumbed than my Mother ever has!!   

[pscocoa]

The battery life on my Lumia 920 is erratic. It is a good job I have one of those wireless charging thingies on my desk at work.

Battery is not removeable. It has been very reliable and does everything I need plus a very good quality camera. The 4G works well - it is a quick phone.

[biggriffin]

Urm   I'm seemingly drawn to the nokia 900 series, need to go have a play see if its better than the 800 ive got