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Tree roots and drains
« on: 08 January 2014, 23:35:36 »

As usual I have a load of stuff going on 24/7 but one sort of got resolved in part today.

At the house up north there are huge trees in public footpath outside property. Noticed drains were blocking so had a camera inserted and amazing incursion of roots through gaps in clay pipes. Tried to blame Council who told me to bugger off as the drain must have problems if allowed roots to enter in the first place.

So had a go at insurance who have now agreed to pay. But the interesting lesson was how one of the 2 companies I had to get quotes from approached the issue. They quoted the cheapest price which the insurance company loved until it became apparent that they were setting themselves up for all the extras that they would have been coming back for (lining costs not included, cute hourly rate system). Luckily insurance company listened to me and agreed that it would be cheaper to lay new drain in plastic to replace the clay drain.

Hopefully work will be done in Feb.
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« Reply #1 on: 09 January 2014, 00:46:58 »

Nature stops for no man...

Glad they listened to reason though, plastic pipes should solve the problem :y
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #2 on: 09 January 2014, 11:04:06 »

That reminds me, I had about 4 cut down a few years back that were very close to the House brickwork. they left the trunk about an inch off the ground and inform me they will die and rot within 6 months.

Needles to say every year there sprouting new twigs which grow about 7 feet in a couple of months.

Keep cutting them down but must do something more permanent soon, before they start doing some real damage.

Local Pub chat says I should drill some deep holes, fill / bang some cooper tube in them and fill with Diesel?.

Any thoughts?  ;)

 
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #3 on: 09 January 2014, 11:37:45 »

If your not in a rush that will work fine!

Well it did for me!   :y
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« Reply #4 on: 09 January 2014, 14:05:50 »

Local Pub chat says I should drill some deep holes, bang some cooper tube in them and fill with petrol, stand well back and throw a lit match at it

EFA
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #5 on: 09 January 2014, 14:33:56 »

Local Pub chat says I should drill some deep holes, bang some cooper tube in them and fill with petrol, stand well back and throw a lit match at it

EFA

Take it EFA means Essex Fire and Ambulance involvement then,  ;D
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #6 on: 09 January 2014, 18:53:16 »

That reminds me, I had about 4 cut down a few years back that were very close to the House brickwork. they left the trunk about an inch off the ground and inform me they will die and rot within 6 months.

Needles to say every year there sprouting new twigs which grow about 7 feet in a couple of months.

Keep cutting them down but must do something more permanent soon, before they start doing some real damage.

Local Pub chat says I should drill some deep holes, fill / bang some cooper tube in them and fill with Diesel?.

Any thoughts?  ;)

 

Just hammer some copper nails in them.....be as generous as like with the nails.....tree/s will be dead in 12/24 months  :y
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #7 on: 09 January 2014, 22:21:36 »

That reminds me, I had about 4 cut down a few years back that were very close to the House brickwork. they left the trunk about an inch off the ground and inform me they will die and rot within 6 months.

Needles to say every year there sprouting new twigs which grow about 7 feet in a couple of months.

Keep cutting them down but must do something more permanent soon, before they start doing some real damage.

Local Pub chat says I should drill some deep holes, fill / bang some cooper tube in them and fill with Diesel?.

Any thoughts?  ;)


 :y :y :y :y :y
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #8 on: 09 January 2014, 22:45:59 »

That reminds me, I had about 4 cut down a few years back that were very close to the House brickwork. they left the trunk about an inch off the ground and inform me they will die and rot within 6 months.

Needles to say every year there sprouting new twigs which grow about 7 feet in a couple of months.

Keep cutting them down but must do something more permanent soon, before they start doing some real damage.

Local Pub chat says I should drill some deep holes, fill / bang some cooper tube in them and fill with Diesel?.

Any thoughts?  ;)

 

Just hammer some copper nails in them.....be as generous as like with the nails.....tree/s will be dead in 12/24 months
  :y










+1  :y :y ;D
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #9 on: 09 January 2014, 22:47:44 »

Just hammer some copper nails in them.....be as generous as like with the nails.....tree/s will be dead in 12/24 months 

THIS MAY be true if the piece of copper is the shape and size of a big axe.
William Hamlin, Ontario, Canada.

DURING my years as a tree surgeon I have come across the "copper nail" myth many times. Some years ago, when cutting up the trunk of a typically vigorous poplar, I came across a ring of copper nails. Several inches inside the wood, the tree had enclosed them and carried on growing with no ill effects.
Geoff March, Stroud, Glos.

All I can add is. I cut some trees down almost a year ago, the stumps are about an inch or two above ground. Cut into the stumps with chainsaw, liberally applied diesel, so far no visible signs of life??
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #10 on: 09 January 2014, 22:49:21 »

As usual I have a load of stuff going on 24/7 but one sort of got resolved in part today.

At the house up north there are huge trees in public footpath outside property. Noticed drains were blocking so had a camera inserted and amazing incursion of roots through gaps in clay pipes. Tried to blame Council who told me to bugger off as the drain must have problems if allowed roots to enter in the first place.

So had a go at insurance who have now agreed to pay. But the interesting lesson was how one of the 2 companies I had to get quotes from approached the issue. They quoted the cheapest price which the insurance company loved until it became apparent that they were setting themselves up for all the extras that they would have been coming back for (lining costs not included, cute hourly rate system). Luckily insurance company listened to me and agreed that it would be cheaper to lay new drain in plastic to replace the clay drain.

Hopefully work will be done in Feb.











Boll===ox Even good maintained drains can be broken by roots of trees as they have Hydraulic power and can crush any pipe clay or plastic.  ::)
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #11 on: 09 January 2014, 22:50:39 »

The area is full of trees - coexistence is possible in our case by use of plastic drains. The Council reinstates the ground disturbance outside the property and we just have to hope it does not interfere with the structure of the house.

The leaf issue in Autumn is also a problem but we will try to live with it. 
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Re: Tree roots and drains
« Reply #12 on: 09 January 2014, 22:52:48 »

As usual I have a load of stuff going on 24/7 but one sort of got resolved in part today.

At the house up north there are huge trees in public footpath outside property. Noticed drains were blocking so had a camera inserted and amazing incursion of roots through gaps in clay pipes. Tried to blame Council who told me to bugger off as the drain must have problems if allowed roots to enter in the first place.

So had a go at insurance who have now agreed to pay. But the interesting lesson was how one of the 2 companies I had to get quotes from approached the issue. They quoted the cheapest price which the insurance company loved until it became apparent that they were setting themselves up for all the extras that they would have been coming back for (lining costs not included, cute hourly rate system). Luckily insurance company listened to me and agreed that it would be cheaper to lay new drain in plastic to replace the clay drain.

Hopefully work will be done in Feb.



Boll===ox Even good maintained drains can be broken by roots of trees as they have Hydraulic power and can crush any pipe clay or plastic.  ::)

I agree but the proof issue would have taken time - I would have possibly gone back on this if insurance hadn't agreed to step in.
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