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AR 35 box
« on: 15 April 2015, 17:19:07 »

anyone help with a brief how to on changing the auto box, will there be enough room with the car on ramps or does it need to go higher & around how long will it take having never done one before

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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #1 on: 15 April 2015, 18:29:03 »

Reverse onto ramps and support the front as high as you can on stands :y

The bell housing is a tight fit but can be pulled out sideways between the engine and chassis rails... Remove front wheels too as this helps with access :y
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #2 on: 15 April 2015, 23:41:59 »

About 2-3 hrs to swap autobox, provided exhaust comes off ok ;)  Remember its fairly weighty though and 2 pairs of hands best.  When I swapped boxes on the old Elite, just drove the front end up onto ramps (custom jobs, about 3x as high as "std" metal jobbies) - gave sufficient clearance to slide box in/out.  Remember to take torqe converter off with gearbox ;)  HTH
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #3 on: 15 April 2015, 23:46:07 »

Standard ramps won't clear the front bumper, just in case op isn't aware.

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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #4 on: 15 April 2015, 23:47:13 »

Standard ramps won't clear the front bumper, just in case op isn't aware.
Use a couple of short planks onto bottom of ramp to avoid this - simples
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #5 on: 15 April 2015, 23:51:14 »

Standard ramps won't clear the front bumper, just in case op isn't aware.
Use a couple of short planks onto bottom of ramp to avoid this - simples

Could easily Jack it up and place the ramps under if the Jack is man enough. ;)
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #6 on: 16 April 2015, 08:29:32 »

Standard ramps won't clear the front bumper, just in case op isn't aware.
Use a couple of short planks onto bottom of ramp to avoid this - simples

Could easily Jack it up and place the ramps under if the Jack is man enough. ;)

Isn't the idea for ramps, to be driven up.
Why jack a car up then put it on the ramps
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #7 on: 16 April 2015, 08:57:45 »

I find that if you back the car onto ramps, the axle stands at the front allow a far higher lift and give a bit more crawl space... And light too as it enables the front wheels to be removed...

Only speaking from experience of doing three Omega clutch changes in thus fashion... The slush box might be slightly heavier than the manual but it is broadly the same external dimensions ;)
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #8 on: 16 April 2015, 09:03:52 »

Standard ramps won't clear the front bumper, just in case op isn't aware.
Use a couple of short planks onto bottom of ramp to avoid this - simples

Could easily Jack it up and place the ramps under if the Jack is man enough. ;)

Isn't the idea for ramps, to be driven up.
Why jack a car up then put it on the ramps
The idea, I think, is, to advise on changing the gear box. Without damaging anything else. ::) like the front bumper. ::)

Two short planks or not. ;D
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #9 on: 16 April 2015, 09:10:06 »

Should the planks be thick?

I did try oak floor planks once, but they snapped ::)
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #10 on: 16 April 2015, 09:20:53 »

Plus there is the bit about keeping the torque converter on the box. Not fitting the tc then fitting the box over it. Tc and box have to go on as one. Or damage will result.


Is it worth changing crank seal as well. While the box is off? Any signs of seepage? Etc etc....

Mate of mine is an auto box specialist. He's pretty adamant he doesn't remove the exhaust or cats when he does omegas. But if needs must.
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #11 on: 16 April 2015, 09:25:40 »

When I had mine done a couple of weeks back. it was jacked up at the back on stands and the front was lifted up on a lorry jack by the look of it.Then rested on ramps.Old gearbox and torgue converter lifted out as one and new one lift in as one. They did take both cats off.
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #12 on: 16 April 2015, 09:30:51 »

Yep, I guess most people will need to. I know I would remove the cats. New gaskets and bolts etc.
« Last Edit: 16 April 2015, 09:39:00 by chrisgixer »
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« Reply #13 on: 16 April 2015, 09:33:19 »

Pulling the cats might well be a side effect of removing the box on the ground.... Up on a lift you would have better access flexibility for reaching the bolts at the top of the bell housing :-\

Tother point is that the cats are mounted to the gearbox rear mounting. :y

Without pulling the cats, clearance isn't great, so easier to get them out of the way than to have to struggle to remove them with the box half out imho :-\
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Re: AR 35 box
« Reply #14 on: 16 April 2015, 09:34:53 »

Yes he would of had a gear box lift and the car up on a lift as well.
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